House of Cards

[Verbal32]

@Cass-

 

I know you've posted some reads, but from the hip:  who are your top 3 wolves?

[Cory Caboose]

Better response, Cass

 

Buying it

[Kaylee]

Lol thanks Cory.

 

My strongest reads are atm

 

Kaylee v

Wombat v

and leaning Verbal v

 

Thanks for communicating with me though....

I expected to see Cory on this list since you asked him about Clov. Why not ask one of your town reads?

[Leelou]

Morning. I'll be going to the airport in 2ish hours, so I'll start digging in with ISOs then.

[Cory Caboose]

Cass I've cleared like five villagers today

 

Considering you've been reading every post you should know that

 

Remember in Cliche when you got lunched and was convinced Darthe or Yates was a wolf for misreading you? This is the big flaw you need to work out of your villager game. It isn't 100% about what people are saying about you

[Cory Caboose]

I think Verbal is a villager now too with relative confidence

 

PoE is down to Cass/Clov/Wombat as people I think could be villagers but dk yet and ???/Sooh/Dice as my likeliest wolves

 

I am missing a player from this list and its never good when I cannot recall who a player is

[Cory Caboose]

Oh it's Tress

 

Noooooooo don't be a wolf Tress

 

Move Tress up a tier and wombat down and flag me as slightly biased if necessary

 

Comfortable voting Sooh or dice today

[Kaylee]

 

 

Wombat, I don't understand your progression on Kaylee. FTR, I agree with Hallia's assessment of her being town based on her level of involvement and probing. I share that read on her, but I just don't get how your read moves along.

 

 

 

Town lean on Kaylee through p. 6.

Ok, this is pretty clear.

 

 

 

 

 

Clov came in and made a joke about the scum team's identity, naming three players that haven't posted yet. You asked him if that was a soulread and then asked if it was a aussie theme. The whole post sounded fake to me and I did not care for it.

 

Darthe's opinion of how you usually play means squat to me. Other than mentoring you in a game, I don't think we've played together before so my focus is on your play in THIS game. And OMGUS FoSing me for allegedly sheeping Darthe (of all people! lol) is not making you look any better in my eyes. I also find it interesting that I'm getting FoSed but Darthe isn't even though, under your consideration, your content so far doesn't warrant it.

 

 

Any other thoughts you have to share?

I like this post of Nyn's.

Dammit -_-

But I don't get this. Why 'dammit'? You have a town read on her, but this implies you're annoyed that you agree with your town read?? Am I missing something?

 

 

 

 

Never said pushing people is bad form. Just called it ironic as I saw it you did something you called her out for.

Not really that ironic imo. Feels like you're trying to call Sooh a hypocrite with using the word "hypocrite."

I don't read this post as a player interacting with a town read of theirs - I see this as a player poking at another player they potentially find suspicious. Again, correct me if I'm missing something here.

 

 

 

 

Five pages in and I'm liking Cory, Darthe, and Kaylee for town this game.

 

Cory and Darthe for their willingness to explain the N0 peeks for the non PoG players.

 

 

 

 

 

My peek hasn't checked in yet.

 

I think we're better served following Tom the Tom's advice and waiting towards EOD to reveal. Players unfamiliar with seer cover may have troubles keeping that consistency through out the Day that wolves can see and cross them out as legit peeks. The less time there is for that, the better.

 

Think before you claim.

Maybe that pans out more in a long game, I'm not familiar enough to say one way or another with certainty. What I do know is that early peeks are more likely to be wrong which both increases the odds of clearing yourself as not the seer if you're mafia or of you being the seer if you got it right. It's all a strange dichotomy.

I'm confused. Are you saying that it's better to wait? I'm asking because it seems like at first you're disagreeing with AJ, then agree.

 

The bold sounds like you disagree with him.

 

Green is sounds like you agree.

 

Can you please clarify?

Kaylee for this. A wolfie Kaylee does not probe this early, and ask questions. Moving on.

Meh. How is explaining mechanics a town tell?

This is the post I agree with Hallia on - it gave me the exact same read on Kaylee for the exact same reasons. But the 'meh' you post implies you disagree. But then that means you disagree with a player's town read on a player you are town reading. I'm totally lost on your thought process.

 

 

 

 

Adding Wombat to my townlist. Almost ready to add a certain news anchor to the list because Nyn, but I'm not crazy about Hallia seemingly ignoring everything I said about Nyn beyond my first post.

I c wut u did thar.

 

 

 

Never said pushing people is bad form. Just called it ironic as I saw it you did something you called her out for.

Not really that ironic imo. Feels like you're trying to call Sooh a hypocrite with using the word "hypocrite."

I was basically calling her hypocrite.

BAM. Kaylee town read.

And we come full circle on you town reading Kaylee.....who you already said you're town reading. You make it sound like this is your conclusion, but you started this way.

 

My problem is everything in between these 2 town-reading posts is you acting like you DON'T read Kaylee as town, though.

 

???

Town lean does not mean town read. When someone I have a town lean on does something I don't like, I will question it. Kaylee's unapologetic commitment to calling Sooh a hypocrite pushed her into town read territory for me. I think scum would tend to try to hedge on that. And the "dammit" was because I don't like making redundant posts that make me look like an idiot.

I can understand this thought process. I don't have a read on Wombat yet but I kinda get what he's saying here.

[Cass]

 

 

God that is so many words

Be more concise and be willing to talk to people in real time

 

I skim basically all of your posts because nobody has time to read what you're could say in two or three sentences in 14 paragraphs

Like we're in two different worlds right now or reading two different games

 

Nothing has changed on my end irt to how I feel about you

 

Are you going to bother reading those words and trying to see where I'm coming from?

Are you going to answer my questions?

Perhaps the reason it's like we're in two different worlds right now, and why I'm always so far behind is because I do read everything that everybody posts, even when I skim.

I skimmed it and saw nothing but "well this is what's bugging me about YOU" sort of tomfoolery I don't feel like I need to respond to

 

What you have to understand is that, in this REALISTIC world, I have more vocal power than you. Sad to say its that kind of world but it is what it is. You need to prove yourself to me - I don't really care about proving anything to you because I will never be lynched this game and I've been extraordinarily transparent

 

Make me believe you're a villager or you get lunched, that's pretty much all there is to it

 

 

I understand the bold, what even is the point in pointing it out?

 

I'm ok with being lunched if people genuinely don't believe I'm villager. I get frustrated when I try and it ends in mislynch because I failed and other Town players didn't bother to try and figure me out. You definitely don't have to prove anything to me, but your attitude stinks to me in this game Cory. I'm going to highlight it but that's pretty much it for now if you're not interested in reading where I'm coming from. In a nutshell, I don't like it but it's unlikely to be alignment indicative, or even go anywhere if it is so further discussion on it is pointless at this point.

 

I'll try to start interacting more in real time and cut down my posts, but I can't make anyone believe anything here, and that's not my job or my goal any more than it should be yours. I'm just going to keep looking for things I find wolfy, explaining why I find them so and leave it at that. The whys are important to me, and this will likely never change. It may not be your style and it may not be perfect, but I'm not willing to give up on them just yet.

[Darthe]

Cory maybe Cass is a wolf but I don't see any reason to vote her over Sooh. Apparently you agree based on the Above post.

 

Similarly if Cass was town and Sooh a wolf you understand is be rightly vertu suspect of all of this from you?

 

Cass Def trended down the last few pages though. I specifically emphasized brevity when i mentored her.

[Cory Caboose]

Rightly vertu? What are you talking about?

[Cory Caboose]

I don't think my attitude stinks, I'm trying the best I can and I think my PoE is pretty good

 

Shrug

[Darthe]

Cass let's try this differently. Gonna need you to step it up if you're a villager so hone in on me here.

 

Respond to everything in two lines or less (apiece).

 

WhaT is your objective?

 

Who. Are your targets, based on your reads?

 

 

In brief, why? A sentence for each at most plz

 

CDV yourself, me and Wombat?

CDV me, Sooh and leelou

[Nynaeve]

1. I expect Villagers to try and figure each other out. Nothing to do with special attention.

 

2. This is all true - other people Village better than I do and I do get froze up as wolf because I wait for likely thread consensus to choose a single target and then come up with a solid case that shows my view/steers my interaction in the thread.

I have not been doing any of that here.

 

3. I have peeked my head out here more than I ever do as Wolf. Start talking about my current game.

 

4. Yes. Hello.

 

 

 

When all a player cares about is pushing suspicion on others, I find it wolfy. This is another example of that, to me.

 

 

 

I kinda like this reply. 

[Darthe]

Rightly vertu? What are you talking about?

Was supposed to say I would rightly be suspect of you pulling from Sooh towards Cass, especially since you have Sooh lower on your list.

 

Sooh hasn't trended up, Cass is just falling. It remains that Sooh is the better lynch imo

[Cory Caboose]

Nyn am I going crazy???

 

I feel like village should always win this game but I keep getting weird sinking feelings

[Cory Caboose]

 

Rightly vertu? What are you talking about?

Was supposed to say I would rightly be suspect of you pulling from Sooh towards Cass, especially since you have Sooh lower on your list.

Sooh hasn't trended up, Cass is just falling. It remains that Sooh is the better lynch imo

You would not be rightly suspect

 

We have to lynch all the wolves to win, yanno

 

There's nothing more to say about Sooh atm, so go look in other places bc she's very likely the lynch today

[Darthe]

@Nyn I think Cass says the right things in the wrong way a lot and Is doing that incredibly anxious paranoid thing she does. It makes it difficult to treat any of this as alignment indicative but I'm not quite sure how to get what I'm looking for out of her here. Thoughts?

[Darthe]

 

 

Rightly vertu? What are you talking about?

Was supposed to say I would rightly be suspect of you pulling from Sooh towards Cass, especially since you have Sooh lower on your list.

Sooh hasn't trended up, Cass is just falling. It remains that Sooh is the better lynch imo

You would not be rightly suspect

 

We have to lynch all the wolves to win, yanno

 

There's nothing more to say about Sooh atm, so go look in other places bc she's very likely the lynch today

Cool I was reading it wrong then. Thought you were trying to supplant this D1 man.

[Cory Caboose]

Like am I supposed to live in some static world where we push a player, it becomes consensus, and the we sit on our hands and wait?

 

Sounds boring and sad

 

Always keep moving the game forward. Always. The moment you let up is the moment wolves can relax and come up for air

 

Doofus

[Cory Caboose]

Also I think dice pretty much is always a wolf but I'll peek him to be sure

[Cass]

And just from watching you wolf I remember several games you'd post big, empty WoTs with a lot of words while nobody is around to engage you and skype me "WIM wolfing!!!" and I feel like if I wasn't playing you might do the same thing after your last set of posts

 

If that makes sense, lol

 

My posts/WoTs here have been nothing like my wolf posts to date in several different ways, which you should be able to see for yourself if you care to look. The thing you can't confirm til I flip is that the reason for those differences is because they're driven by the Town motivation behind them. Just because I'm Town and failing doesn't mean I have less WIM though. 

 

 

"Hopes that I would start to interact"?

 

Lol what?

 

Interacting with me rather than just calling me a wolf. 

 

 

 

What is the point in going around in these circles? At some point real-time becomes a distraction to hunting lynchable wolves/finding the hidden inconsistencies in the game.

[Darthe]

Darthe

Tress*

Kaylee

Nyn

Cory

Verb

Wombat

Clov

Andrej

Leelou

*

Cass

Dice

Sooh

 

Odd that the inactivity trends you down thing is coming into affect on DM but it is.

 

I think this is in order but clov/wombat/verb could roughly bounce around based on a couple of good posts etc. Tress is my peek but if she wasn't I can understand her being low in some of your eyes so I put her where she would maybe otherwise fit for me. Idk, it's tough to measure those things.

[Darthe]

Cass real time interaction is way more valuable than catching up.

 

Then again so is a random peek but I'm prob a wolf for saying those objective facts. What do I know?

 

Ffs

[Cory Caboose]

Cass I put boxing gloves away already babe, the bell rung