A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

Andrej · May 12, 2015

Claiming Vig with NK immunity sounds more like a SK to me, especially in a game that all but guarantees multiple non town elements.I'm not going to invest a lot into the character claim because I know Darthe has a pension for providing safe claims. If I'm remembering correctly the entire team had them in the Red Wedding game. It's also not something I would put past a scum!Yates to bread crumb early thinking he could skate on it with a good fake claim in his pocket.
Two problems here:1. You think there's going to be an SK in a multiball scenario? Okay. Possible. Guess you could judge that based on the results of the kill.2. Did you see me bread crumbing a role? Did you see me even encouraging people to unvote me based on my role claim? Or did you see me state flatly that unvoting me for a character claim is just bad mafia?

1. Yes. I understand multi ball to mean that there is a high number of non-town slots. Potentially multiple scum teams and Indy roles. A SK would fall into that category.

2. Yes, you've bread crumbed along the way. For one you outright claimed in your OP and made another comment later towards Sooh about 'having a bullet' for her. No I haven't seen you encouraging people to unvote but the convenience of your claim in this situation really pushes my boundaries of belief. I mention the character claim because I saw EP unvote because of it.

Yates · May 12, 2015

[some Posts]

Are you reading the context of those posts or just the words?

As a Pats fan, what do you think about my homage to the Wells Report?

Also, you highlighted the wrong part in the next paragraph, Leelou. The part you are intentionally leaving out is this; "I can like Tina's RATIONALE independent of the accuracy of the read." So when I say he is objectively *looking* scummy [note the asterisks], what do you think I'm implying?

Verbal32 · May 12, 2015

[unvote]

I will hesitantly follow a Verb for now. I don't likes the cut of his jib. Instead of throwing attitude he could try to help town.

I actually found your vote on Yates quite scummy popped in from nowhere and that couldn't read the whole game and a little bit of train comes along and there you are. Verb is being Verb doesn't make him scum doesn't make him town, but you want rid of him because of his attitude?

Hallia is talking about Yates' attitude, not mine.

Hey guys! I've been trying to catch up while you've all been running away from me

This is definitely a bigger game than I'm used to. I lean towards believing Yates for now though, so [unvote]

I did expect Seph to be much more involved in this game, so he's my biggest lead at the moment for where to find scum.

[v]seph[/v]

Why?

[some Posts]
Are you reading the context of those posts or just the words?

As a Pats fan, what do you think about my homage to the Wells Report?

Also, you highlighted the wrong part in the next paragraph, Leelou. The part you are intentionally leaving out is this; "I can like Tina's RATIONALE independent of the accuracy of the read." So when I say he is objectively *looking* scummy [note the asterisks], what do you think I'm implying?

Big time semantics.

Yates · May 12, 2015

2. Yes, you've bread crumbed along the way. For one you outright claimed in your OP and made another comment later towards Sooh about 'having a bullet' for her. No I haven't seen you encouraging people to unvote but the convenience of your claim in this situation really pushes my boundaries of belief. I mention the character claim because I saw EP unvote because of it.

I didn't breadcrumb anything.

I flat out role claimed. That's not a breadcrumb. LOL

In the context of the argument you JUST FRAMED you made it look like you were accusing me of having a good fake claim in my back pocket so I could "conveniently" shake lynches. You are tying my role claim to my character claim. And I can show you where I am saying not to do that.

Also, in what universe does scum Yates need to set up a fake claim like this? I can't recall the last time I was lynched in the first 2 or 3 days without a guilty on me.

Assuming my lynch doesn't go through... How do you like your chances of surviving the night? Just a question.

Talya · May 12, 2015

@ EP - I remember he had the two and fro with Sili at the beginning and Sili stood out more to me, though I'm getting from everyone that is his normal play still didn't like it, your're right, he hasn't said much since. I'm edging towards Hallia at thee moment, but that is just the recent couple of pages on her.

[unvote]

I will hesitantly follow a Verb for now. I don't likes the cut of his jib. Instead of throwing attitude he could try to help town.

I actually found your vote on Yates quite scummy popped in from nowhere and that couldn't read the whole game and a little bit of train comes along and there you are. Verb is being Verb doesn't make him scum doesn't make him town, but you want rid of him because of his attitude?

Hallia is talking about Yates' attitude, not mine.

I read that about you, she didn't differentiate between you and only your name there. Of course if that isn't the case, you have just given her a good excuse.

Yates · May 12, 2015

Big time semantics.

SEMANTICS?!! I LITERALLY SAID I LIKED THE CASE EVEN IF SHE WAS WRONG ABOUT ZANDER!! WTF.... That's not SEMANTICS. That's the FACT of what I said conflicting with the STORY of what some of you seem to THINK I said or want OTHERS to think I said.

Sooh · May 12, 2015

**snip**

Hey guys! I've been trying to catch up while you've all been running away from me

This is definitely a bigger game than I'm used to. I lean towards believing Yates for now though, so [unvote]

I did expect Seph to be much more involved in this game, so he's my biggest lead at the moment for where to find scum.

[v]seph[/v]

Why?

**snip**

Because I have played with him in every game he has played on the site, and he has always been super involved and done a bunch of work to solve the game. His less involved attitude makes me question him big time, so that's why I put my vote there.

Gabriel Kross · May 12, 2015

@ EP - I remember he had the two and fro with Sili at the beginning and Sili stood out more to me, though I'm getting from everyone that is his normal play still didn't like it, your're right, he hasn't said much since. I'm edging towards Hallia at thee moment, but that is just the recent couple of pages on her.

[unvote]

I will hesitantly follow a Verb for now. I don't likes the cut of his jib. Instead of throwing attitude he could try to help town.

I actually found your vote on Yates quite scummy popped in from nowhere and that couldn't read the whole game and a little bit of train comes along and there you are. Verb is being Verb doesn't make him scum doesn't make him town, but you want rid of him because of his attitude?

Hallia is talking about Yates' attitude, not mine.

I read that about you, she didn't differentiate between you and only your name there. Of course if that isn't the case, you have just given her a good excuse.

actually my back and forths were with Seph and Dice mostly I don't think I debated that much with Sili other than him trying to twist around my words at one point over the Pizza conversation.

Yates · May 12, 2015

I read that about you, she didn't differentiate between you and only your name there. Of course if that isn't the case, you have just given her a good excuse.

No. She was definitely talking about me.

Gabriel Kross · May 12, 2015

Big time semantics.
SEMANTICS?!! I LITERALLY SAID I LIKED THE CASE EVEN IF SHE WAS WRONG ABOUT ZANDER!! WTF.... That's not SEMANTICS. That's the FACT of what I said conflicting with the STORY of what some of you seem to THINK I said or want OTHERS to think I said.

in the context you never said anything about Tina being wrong. You only said that way later.

Yates · May 12, 2015

I'm actually liking an AJ or Hally wagon right about now.

I'd probably go with Hally over AJ only because AJ will be resolved sooner than later and could be valuable if Town. Hally slanking is scum Hally and is never helping the Town.

Darthe · May 12, 2015

I love you all.

Except the wolves. You wound me as a people.

Hallia · May 12, 2015

I said I can't on mobile. I'm not slamming so cut it out.

Talya · May 12, 2015

@ EP - I remember he had the two and fro with Sili at the beginning and Sili stood out more to me, though I'm getting from everyone that is his normal play still didn't like it, your're right, he hasn't said much since. I'm edging towards Hallia at thee moment, but that is just the recent couple of pages on her.

[unvote]

I will hesitantly follow a Verb for now. I don't likes the cut of his jib. Instead of throwing attitude he could try to help town.

I actually found your vote on Yates quite scummy popped in from nowhere and that couldn't read the whole game and a little bit of train comes along and there you are. Verb is being Verb doesn't make him scum doesn't make him town, but you want rid of him because of his attitude?

Hallia is talking about Yates' attitude, not mine.

I read that about you, she didn't differentiate between you and only your name there. Of course if that isn't the case, you have just given her a good excuse.

actually my back and forths were with Seph and Dice mostly I don't think I debated that much with Sili other than him trying to twist around my words at one point over the Pizza conversation.

I didn't mean you I meant Seth and Sili for the back and forth.

I read that about you, she didn't differentiate between you and only your name there. Of course if that isn't the case, you have just given her a good excuse.
No. She was definitely talking about me.

Ok then I take that back, I still found her vote on you a little suspicious, but the after bit beefed that up...now it deflates

Talya · May 12, 2015

I love you all.

Except the wolves. You wound me as a people.

But they are not people

Yates · May 12, 2015

in the context you never said anything about Tina being wrong. You only said that way later.

If only there was some way for me to be able to go back in time and replay the words I formed to frame my argument.

Oh!

Wait!

We have a whole THREAD of posts that are like recorded and stuff!

I never said anything about Tina being wrong at the time, you allege?

I can like Tina's RATIONAL independent of the accuracy of the read.

Weird. The bold looks like I'm saying her read might not be accurate. What was her read again? Was it... Zander = Scum? I forget.

Gabriel Kross · May 12, 2015

I love you all.

Except the wolves. You wound me as a people.

But they are not people

unless they are werewolves, then they are partially people right?

Hallia · May 12, 2015

I love you all.

Except the wolves. You wound me as a people.

But they are not people

unless they are werewolves, then they are partially people right?

According to JCon yes XD

Yates · May 12, 2015

Ok then I take that back, I still found her vote on you a little suspicious, but the after bit beefed that up...now it deflates

Oh. Her vote is objectively terrible. I would certainly see her swing for it. Easily the worst vote of the game.

Talya · May 12, 2015

I'll let you have that one...as long as they aren't shiny, then they should be shot!

Yates · May 12, 2015

Alright. I should have left over a half hour ago.

Keep up the activity and the suspicion on Hally and AJ.

Yates · May 12, 2015

And I guess, to a way lesser extent, Seph.

Gabriel Kross · May 12, 2015

in the context you never said anything about Tina being wrong. You only said that way later.
If only there was some way for me to be able to go back in time and replay the words I formed to frame my argument.

Oh!

Wait!

We have a whole THREAD of posts that are like recorded and stuff!

I never said anything about Tina being wrong at the time, you allege?

I can like Tina's RATIONAL independent of the accuracy of the read.
Weird. The bold looks like I'm saying her read might not be accurate. What was her read again? Was it... Zander = Scum? I forget.

and then you follow up latter with "I still like Tina's case on Zander." The end end of statement no further context of whether or not you think it's accurate until called out. Then when called out you said you'd choose to ignore the "mason soft claim" and read Zander indepently and at the time were saying that you found him slightly scummy.

Talya · May 12, 2015

the last was at EP

Ok then I take that back, I still found her vote on you a little suspicious, but the after bit beefed that up...now it deflates
Oh. Her vote is objectively terrible. I would certainly see her swing for it. Easily the worst vote of the game.

I still don't like her vote, but the after bit reinforced it. As it is at the moment I don't have too mush else I want to go with.

I'm sure what I first was reading yesterday Seth came across as more towny. But a lot has happened since then, but names are blurring.

Yates · May 12, 2015

and then you follow up latter with "I still like Tina's case on Zander." The end end of statement no further context of whether or not you think it's accurate until called out. Then when called out you said you'd choose to ignore the "mason soft claim" and read Zander indepently and at the time were saying that you found him slightly scummy.

Yup. Because there's still a world where you and Zander are scum bros, as far as I'm concerned. So until that is resolved? I'm not voting for you but I won't stop rading you.

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