A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Yates]

1. What are your leans on Zander/Sooh and their interactions?

That's a tomorrow question. I don;t have the time/energy to deep ISO that stuff.

 

2. Was there a difference between what you posted after Tina's chain on the above and the thoughts you mentioned intending to post about her misquoting Sili? (Gut feel says yes but I'd like to hear more from you on this)

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking me. I liked Tina's post with the case, even if it was wrong. But that had nothing to do with the Sili misquote. And I'd like AJ to clear me before I say any more on that subject because I want him to feel like his inquiry was untainted by my opinion on the matter.

[Yates]

 

1. What are your leans on Zander/Sooh and their interactions?

That's a tomorrow question. I don't have the time/energy to deep ISO that stuff.

 

Actually, I still like Tina's case on Zander. IDK if that helps?

[Yates]

1. What are your leans on Zander/Sooh and their interactions?

Okay, Sooh's ISO is like 12 posts long and she doesn't mention Zander ever. Am I missing something?

[Sili Quirrels]

Town

AJ

Sooh

Eldrick

Seph

Yates

Dice

Monster Cass

Leelou

Alannalynn

Krak

EP*

Zanders*

Pizza

 

Tina

Verbal

 

Tress

Hallia

Taborline

 

Talya

John Snow

 

Thane

[Sili Quirrels]

Lots of scum in the slanker pile.

 

A few scum in the currently active pile

 

Probably 1-2 scum in my town list if I'm unlucky, which I usually am.

 

Thane slanks as a wolf if I recall correctly, but there's no point in pressuring him.

 

Asterisks are there for a reason.

[seph]

I can't do colors on my phone so I use town slight town

My town list 

Dice. His first post seems like town dice, plus he mentored me in it. He had no reason to help me out there.

 

Aj he is asking alot of questions, he seems like the aj from last game. I think he is moving the town towards a good direction

 

Sooh I have misread sooh in every game we have played together. I think over the last two though she has become more clear. And I like it

 

Slight town

Pizza I liked my interaction with pizza so far, and I like his methods.

 

I am adding sili here as sight town. I am pretty sure I mistook his playstyle

if he isn't town I would look more closely at yates.

 

Eld is null.slight town lean

 

I had Tina as town, I thought her misquote was accidental. I did a iso with my view on zander changing, and I dislike the fact she Says *she probably messed up* she sounds unsure of herself and makes me unsure of her.

 

I will try to get a full reads list together soon. I have power again woot!

[seph]

Idk how you can make a list like that sili. I feel most people besides maybe 10 or so have given us nothing to go on.

I think I need to just iso every person, the huge games can be confusing.

[Sili Quirrels]

Idk how you can make a list like that sili. I feel most people besides maybe 10 or so have given us nothing to go on.

I think I need to just iso every person, the huge games can be confusing.

It's just guess work. By the time you get to pizza it's prett much rand town. And some of the reasons for my reads are pretty light.

 

Mostly I'm just making a list to organize my thoughts.

[Cass]

Home. Yey non-torturous quotes!

 

Wait. Can I call you Batass?

 

 

FWIW, Monstr and I both opted yes (even though I totally deserve my Mother's Day gift for being a Batass Mother)... The Modfather overruled before we could let you know though. The rest is up to you... *g*

 

 

 

 

 

1. What are your leans on Zander/Sooh and their interactions?

That's a tomorrow question. I don;t have the time/energy to deep ISO that stuff.

 

Ok... 

 

 

 

 

2. Was there a difference between what you posted after Tina's chain on the above and the thoughts you mentioned intending to post about her misquoting Sili? (Gut feel says yes but I'd like to hear more from you on this)

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking me. I liked Tina's post with the case, even if it was wrong. But that had nothing to do with the Sili misquote. And I'd like AJ to clear me before I say any more on that subject because I want him to feel like his inquiry was untainted by my opinion on the matter.

 

 

And again.... Ok....

 

FYI in case it helps for after AJ answers, it was the quote below that confused me/made me unsure of your stance.

 

 

 

@Tina - how did you make that sort of mistake?

I feel like if you felt Sili's post was compelling enough to basically sheep you would've quoted the correct one. Now it appears to me that you just grabbed a random quote with someone voting another person (one of the main wagons atm, mind you) as a clean and easy way to hop on without adding any of your own input.

I have thoughts on this as well. Will post after Tina.

 

 

 

Don't worry about Q. 3. Irrelevant for now.

[Andrej]

Damn, I'm still slogging through where I left off around pg24 earlier today. I will probably pull some quotes for context at a later point but now I'll just summarize my general feelings.

 

I have Pizzaguy starting to trend down. I don't know if I would have said he was ever really high on my list but I am slowly starting to become suspicious of him. His posts sound good and villagery at face value talking about his wagon theory and reading Sooh, but generally I'm not getting a sense he's strongly invested here. I think his suspects have been sort of weak and his last vote switch to Eldrick in particular seems a bit lazy. He seems to be playing more self-centrically to me and not really extending himself.

 

I liked Tayla's involvement earlier. I don't agree with her choice of vote but I think that could just be a case of her not being familiar with Sili. She made another point in regards to Manbat that I think supports and emphasizes this (things striking her as off due to lack of experience with said players) but overall I think she came across villagery.

 

Tina laying out her thought process on why she thought Zander was suspicious was helpful. I'm not going to recant my statement about how voting Zander seemed to me like an easy target at the time but I do like that she made the effort to make it clear why she did. Still, I think the point was valid and with the whole misquote thing I may have reacted in a knee-jerk fashion. Still seems weird to me but maybe she just wasn't paying attention. To quote Leelou I probably jumped the gun there.

 

[unvote]

 

Hmm, what else. Verb and Leelou both strike me as villagery. I would prefer Verb to just read the thread instead of floating around in real time asking questions he could probably find the answer to himself but I don't think that sort of aloofness is scummy for him. Leelou seems to actually be analysing people while going through her banter with Verb so I think that's probably a good sign.

 

EP softing his role was unfortunate seeing as how I was content rolling with both him and Zander as greens moving forward, but it what it is. I do think, however, that with this knowledge on the table it could be fruitful to look back at those interacting with them the most.

 

That's all I can really readily bring to mind atm but I am going to look back regardless to see if I forgot anything while trying to stay current with events now.

[Hallia]

I am become the catcher upper, give me a few.

[Andrej]

@AJ - Did Tina answer this to your satisfaction/as much as you think she will?

@Tina - how did you make that sort of mistake?I feel like if you felt Sili's post was compelling enough to basically sheep you would've quoted the correct one. Now it appears to me that you just grabbed a random quote with someone voting another person (one of the main wagons atm, mind you) as a clean and easy way to hop on without adding any of your own input.

Yeah, I think she did pretty well laying her thoughts out. I guess I can see where she was coming from regarding Zander at the time now that she's explained it more. I had forgotten that she mentioned him earlier so I'm willing to give a few points for at least pretending to be consistent.

 

I'm curious now about your statement earlier when I initially had my reaction to her post. What were your thoughts?

[Andrej]

Does anyone have any specific questions for me before I log off for the night?

Sure.

 

Why do I feel you could be scum this game?

[Andrej]

Town

AJ

Sooh

Eldrick

Seph

Yates

Dice

Monster Cass

Leelou

Alannalynn

Krak

EP*

Zanders*

Pizza

 

Tina

Verbal

 

Tress

Hallia

Taborline

 

Talya

John Snow

 

Thane

This looks mostly like a list sorted via current volume.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

Town

AJ

Sooh

Eldrick

Seph

Yates

Dice

Monster Cass

Leelou

Alannalynn

Krak

EP*

Zanders*

Pizza

 

Tina

Verbal

 

Tress

Hallia

Taborline

 

Talya

John Snow

 

Thane

This looks mostly like a list sorted via current volume.

 

Yates would be higher. Sooh would be a lot lower.

 

Krak would be at the bottom.

 

EP would be nearer the top.

[Sili Quirrels]

Sorted by Post Count:

 

Sili Quirrels 99 Yates. 84 Eternal Phoenix 69 Andrej 64 Leelou 47 seph 45 Darthe 39 Verbal32 36 Eldrick4221 33 alannalynn 28 Askthepizzaguy 22 Sooh 21 Zander 19 manbat 19 Songstress 16 TinaHel 16 Krakalakachkn 10 Talya 9 Clovdyx 8 Cass 7 dicetosser1 7 Taborline 5 Alot 4 Thane Vakarian 3 Hallia 3 Alanna 1 John Snow 1

[Andrej]

And I'd like AJ to clear me before I say any more on that subject because I want him to feel like his inquiry was untainted by my opinion on the matter.

Hm?

[Cass]

 

 

1. What are your leans on Zander/Sooh and their interactions?

That's a tomorrow question. I don't have the time/energy to deep ISO that stuff.

 

Actually, I still like Tina's case on Zander. IDK if that helps?

 

 

Kinda.

 

Okay, Sooh's ISO is like 12 posts long and she doesn't mention Zander ever. Am I missing something?

 

Sorry, I probably should have made that two separate questions but was rushing before being called in for an appointment. Basically just wondering if you have a specific  lean on Zander and/or Sooh.

[Darthe]

John Snow and Alanna have requested replacements.

 

I may or may not be able to find said replacements.

[Andrej]

 

This looks mostly like a list sorted via current volume.

 

Yates would be higher. Sooh would be a lot lower.

 

Krak would be at the bottom.

 

EP would be nearer the top.

I meant that more generally than anything, not critiquing here. I'm pretty sure I could probably speculate why you have certain players where they are but your oranges/reds mostly cover the low posters afaict

[Andrej]

@Seph - I appreciate you taking the time to expound a bit on your reads. I was going to ask you do that when I saw your post earlier just listing your leans without any explanations. I'm glad I didn't have to. Generally I am on the same page with most of those and I think you doing your research on Sili and reconsidering there is probably a good look too. Reminds me of the later casings I saw from you in our last game where you weighed everything out pretty heavily.

 

Anyway - I know who your town reads are now. Who do you have as potential suspects? I know you might be sort of having to turn your view of the game around after your last realization and it might take you some time to reevaluate other players but I want to know where your head is at. You're first in the VC iirc so if you're a villager it's time to start putting in work.

[seph]

This is off the top of my head aj

 

I feel keep having mixed feeling on yates. I am going to take a page from tress and ask someone to cop him.

I really haven't liked anything alot has posted, a I don't care attitude.

 

Zander - have been wrong on him quite often I just do not like his vote on sooh. I want to look at him more closely after my conversation with ep.

 

I also will be looking more into tina.

 

I was hoping to hear from tress today, I thought she said she would post today. I do not know her time zone so will give her a bit more time.

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

My point being is that zander lynch seems like it probably has mafia behind it regardless of his alignment and I think he's prolly lynchbait

Also zander I love that song <3

Who are the scum iyo? I am contemplating voting Tina right now but I'm willing to at least hear her out first.

Idk if you've played with me lately but I've kind of adapted into this style where I read the flow of the thread surrounding lynch wagons and then try and figure out which wagons are bad.

 

I have a more general "tthis is where a high concentration of scum are" approach as opposed to a "this specific person is wolfy"

 

It gets me heat a lot but it works for mw

Yeah, I think it's been a few months since we played last. The last time might've been the Space Balls game?

 

And okay. Fwiw I think you're probably right about Zander being lynchbait.

That doesn't make him not scum this game. But I agree, he was easy lynch bait.

[Andrej]

I don't really have an opinion on Alot. I saw his posts earlier and although I dislike them because I think that's an unhelpful mentality I don't think it makes him more likely to be a wolf.

 

Regarding Zander I think there's something important you may have missed. You should probably check back on that one as well.

[Andrej]

@Eldrick - that's true enough in a nut shell but I don't think he's been wolfy. I can see how some might find his vote badly timed or whatever, but he's caught a lot of heat on it and I would think a newer player like him probably wouldn't double down and tell people to stuff it.