Avatar The Last Airbender Town and SK wins!

[Eldrick4221]

I'm horrible at making cases, but I'll give it a shot.

 

I'm still baffled by how quickly your votes got on Ithi in the beginning of the game. 6 hours into it, and she already had 3 votes. You jumped on me about it being a serious vote, and I still don't see how.

 

Then you promptly forgot about the whole conversation.

 

Went back and reread your tinfoil under the premise of you being mafia, and it reeks of you trying to hard to be town and distancing yourself.

You knew it was a fake claim.

You were pushing Ithi all game. You had nothing on her, but wanted her down anyway.

 

I still don't get how you had Snow as so strongly of as town read. You didn't go after him until he was obviously maf from the cop flip.

 

Due to your feeling sick on D1, and the shortness of D2, you never gave a strong read of Nolder. You had him as Null, with a slight town lean, according to your spoiler description of him.

 

That's 1 town and 1 null. It still fits mafia logic.

[Eldrick4221]

It didn't rain here yet, but it still might.

Just took a peek at ABC15's weather map thing. Doesn't look likely :(

[Eldrick4221]

I still haven't been able to differentiate casing from tinfoiling. They both fall under "figuring the game out" to me. I just post my thoughts.

[Songstress]

I'm horrible at making cases, but I'll give it a shot.

 

I'm still baffled by how quickly your votes got on Ithi in the beginning of the game. 6 hours into it, and she already had 3 votes. You jumped on me about it being a serious vote, and I still don't see how.

 

Then you promptly forgot about the whole conversation.

 

Went back and reread your tinfoil under the premise of you being mafia, and it reeks of you trying to hard to be town and distancing yourself.

You knew it was a fake claim.

You were pushing Ithi all game. You had nothing on her, but wanted her down anyway.

 

I still don't get how you had Snow as so strongly of as town read. You didn't go after him until he was obviously maf from the cop flip.

 

Due to your feeling sick on D1, and the shortness of D2, you never gave a strong read of Nolder. You had him as Null, with a slight town lean, according to your spoiler description of him.

 

That's 1 town and 1 null. It still fits mafia logic.

 

I explained my vote on Ithi multiple times, and rather vehemently, especially in my conversation with Turin.  And yes, I forgot about the conversation with you, because I had spent a day or so in a knock-down-drag-out with her warder over it and that was rather in the forefront of my mind at the time.

 

It baffles me that you don't understand the concept of how "tinfoil hat theory" applies to mafia,  It truly baffles me.  Snow's claim was obviously a fake claim because of the timing, yes.  Ithi I was suspicious of since the beginning of the game and I found something in reviewing Snow's posts that entertained the hell out of me if they were teammates.  Nolder I threw in there to round out my guess for the mafia team, with a very weak connection, and then I sent it to Kaylee to amuse her, because she knows how my mind works... then I decided what the heck, I'll amuse the rest of you with it too, because people tend to like to call me out on getting way too paranoid and coming up with farfetched theories, might as well not sit on it, let's play it for laughs instead.  I was also curious to see if anyone would try to case me on it (WHICH YOU ARE, mind you. and I *snerk* in your general direction), and if anyone would piggyback on it.  It was an interesting exercise that I haven't done before,  The difference between that and actual casing is that if I was actually trying to case any of them at that moment, I would have gone back through their ISOs and pointed out everything that didn't sit right with me with quotes or links back to the original posts, and not just said "oh hey I think Snow is lying and look at this, he said 'see you on the QT' to Ithi, and Nolder swallowed his OBVFAKE claim hook line and sinker so LOL THEY ARE ALL MAFIA TOGETHER!"   I actually had every intention of building a real case on Ithi D3, but you all did me a favor by killing her so I didn't have to look like an idiot.  Thanks again for that.

 

I explained my "so strong" of a town read on Snow to Seph earlier, you should probably read that explanation. And as soon as he claimed cop with ~5 minutes left to the already extended deadline, I made it clear that I had issues with it.

 

 

At the time I posted my reads list, Nolder had all of 13 posts, of course I didn't have a strong read of him.  Close to EOD1 I started becoming suspicous of him, as evidenced by this post, and this post.  During N1, after Snow did his fake claim and Nolder swallowed it hook line and sinker, he pinged me hard enough to pop into my head when I did my tinfoil hat theory.

 

 

However, when it came to my actual color coded list I put Nolder as light green, and Snow as dark green.  That's two towns.  It's been a very long time since I've been mafia, but I do understand the concept of distancing, Eldrick, and neither of those was distancing to start the game per "mafia logic", as you're referencing it.

[Eldrick4221]

Of course I used it. A) your iso is rather short. I used the content available and B) its still your opinions, and that matters in figuring people out. I didn't get why referencing it would be any different than referencing any other post.

[seph]

Rained really hard here. We had places were cars were completely submerged IN a sonic parking lot....

I drove through waters up to my headlights to get tobin..... wasn't a smart idea.... but I was worried. Yea rain sucs

[seph]

This is clearly where the lynch is going today. The mafia read logic makes it that way.

[unvote]

[v]Sooh[/v]

@Tress I agree, and fully expect to be the vig target tonight. If it's not Sooh, lynch Tress tomorrow, guys.

This worries me.. if he is town I feel like he hurt us here.

I feel like it could be wifom and he needs to go regardless.

 

If eldrick in not mafia....

I don't know.... Zander honestly is foreign to me. I want to put him town so that leaves turin and tress... what if one is a sk? I could see that as you can play the town card still.

 

I would feel better voting turin over tress.

So Zander or turin.

[seph]

The others are after eldrick of course. If he somehow flips town.

[Turin Turambar]

Be safe in the flooding Seph. High water is no joke.

 

Also, it is too late in the game to ignore people just because the post foreign to you.

 

Driving again.

[Kaylee]

Appa usually stayed close to the Avatar. Seeing as how that couldn't happen Appa was feeling lost. He wanted to stay and help the team, but he was depressed. He smelled something delicious. He decided to follow the scent to the source. Once at the camp he ate the meal them turned to return to the others. He never made it though...

 

Tress - Appa, VT had been killed

 

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_hyGSTviEFXK44EcaTfmhXTGqyRGkcJ4qIXDC4dcNlhgVaJo-

[Kaylee]

Sorry, got distracted and didn't realize all actions were in.

[Songstress]

[Kaylee]

Lol the sacrificial lamb

[Zander?]

Okay enough is enough

 

I am MOMO VT

 

Eldrick talks about being the NK and suspecting Tress...then Tress dies....

 

[v] Eldrick [/v]

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Eldrick (1): Zander

 

Not Voting (4): Eldrick, Thane, Seph, Turin

 

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

 

Deadline is May 8th @4:30pm

 

Countdown Timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20150508T1630&p0=3862&fg1=0fa595&fg2=176db3&msg=End+of+D4&csz=1

[seph]

Okay enough is enough

 

I am MOMO VT

 

Eldrick talks about being the NK and suspecting Tress...then Tress dies....

 

[v] Eldrick [/v]

I am still voting him regardless.

Zander and turin if he is town who set him up then?

Because of his actions d3 it makes it very easy to mislynch here.

[seph]

Be safe in the flooding Seph. High water is no joke.

Also, it is too late in the game to ignore people just because the post foreign to you.

Driving again.

Trust me I was cursing the whole 4 blocks I drove in it.

 

Also where is the vig sk kill at here??? Did they not shoot or what.

Somehow I also keep forgetting about thane. Think I need to re read him

[Thane Vakarian]

it's time for the vig to reveal i'd say. we can cross him off the wtl list.

[Turin Turambar]

Only got a short break. 2 hours I should have my lunch to expound some.

 

@Thane, I would be good seeing the vig claim.

 

@Seph, there are several reasons possible for no second kill. I can talk about this later. What two do you think most likely?

 

Also, the possible setup? Will get to that then too.

[seph]

yeah I won't have too much time today or tomorrow but I'll check in when I can.

 

I think they need to go for the hammer today regardless.

 

if he is town who ever killed tress, had the perfect setup.

 

I agree with dice that thane is a high possibility.

It seems to Me he has been the least helpful in solving the game. When I get a chance I want to iso him.

[seph]

Ebwodp

I think eldrick needs to go from the hammer.

[seph]

I think Zander is town. I don't think that 2nd claim was false.

I think turin is town.

I re read thane and I would gladly vote him. He seems to be piggy backing and trying to raise suspicions to various people.

 

I am waiting for turin to get back before I cast my vote on eldrick.

[Eldrick4221]

There being only one kill surprised me, then again so did me still being alive. Thanks doc.

 

Anyway, since figuring it out through who Jon and Nolder read is a bust, back to my top suspect

 

[v]Seph[/v]

[seph]

There being only one kill surprised me, then again so did me still being alive. Thanks doc.

 

Anyway, since figuring it out through who Jon and Nolder read is a bust, back to my top suspect

 

[v]Seph[/v]

the bolded makes me want to not give a care in the world if Turin is back before I vote you. 

 

 

[Turin Turambar]

Seph. I'm around. At least not driving but need a few more minutes.