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By csarmi
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Sili Quirrels Master

Sili Quirrels

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So if we are going with his lynch pool, what is your order?

 

I'd go for Sooh first, personally.  I know I'm town, and if Sili isn't hard claiming then I'm not ready to off Yates.

 

And Sili apparently isn't willing to hard claim, which keeps him on my list. :dry:

 

i get where you're coming from anyway.

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Sili Quirrels Master

Sili Quirrels

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wish tress wasn't so clamped up, and was willing to communicate more openly so i didn't have to go over all her posts and fill in the blanks, but it doesn't make her a wolf - just hard to read.

 

I will need to consider sooh more carefully now.

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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It was pretty straight forward to me. She's not going to lynch herself and you being a cop with two clears gives a small list to work from

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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IRT claiming... Its probably the optimum play the cop does claim this phase if both peeks are alive. Doesn't need to be right now necessarily

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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wish tress wasn't so clamped up, and was willing to communicate more openly so i didn't have to go over all her posts and fill in the blanks, but it doesn't make her a wolf - just hard to read.

 

I will need to consider sooh more carefully now.

I think she's still a better candidate than Yates but I think I'd take Sooh over her right now. Her point about Sooh setting you up didn't sound horrible.

Sili Quirrels Master

Sili Quirrels

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It was pretty straight forward to me. She's not going to lynch herself and you being a cop with two clears gives a small list to work from

problem was i read everything backwards so i took stuff in piecemeal.

Sooh Spam Master

Sooh

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Considering I have so little time today I'll just recap my thoughts after the posts last night...

 

Drawing the NK and helping the seer is something I didn't consider for Sili, and if that is the case, well done... I'm still learning about being VT.

 

One problem though...

 

If Cass is scum, she knew from early D1 that Sili definitely wasn't the seer, which would clear him from NKs for a while. It would also give the scum a smaller kill pool to find the real seer. 

 

Where is Cass anyway??

 

Whereas all the rest of you seem to be all in for lynching me, which would be a bad idea if you're trying to scum hunt, Cass and Dice have been very quiet about it. Also Tress, but at least she challenged me on the seer. Any thoughts on that?

 

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dicetosser1 Spam Master

dicetosser1

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Cass is moving house today.

 

And i wasnt going to lynch you as i knew you were away. I agree with tress that it looked like u were setting up sili but i put it down to you being drunk when i read it.

 

Sili is driving me nuts. the flip flops yesterday the hardclaim but not a hard claim and his interactions with tress were just weird

 

tress i see clearly as town. the moment she flared at clov told me that.

 

Yates i think is town. if he is tricking me again im gonna be annoyed.

 

Clov  theres something i didnt like with clov. and that was his fast and easy agreement with Yates at daybreak today. It seemed too in sync.

 

For me the POE is Clov Sooh Cass . I have no particular order atm tho. Will be rereading this weekend. Assuming Baseball doesnt put me in the hospital this time...

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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If my cop read on Silk was correct, then I could clear you and him. I wasn't going to exclude Yates, but Dice/Tress/Sooh were definitely my candidates

Clovdyx Spam Master

Clovdyx

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As for sili's flip flops, I don't think that's alignment indicative. If they ARE its a town tell for him. I've gotten into it with him in the past because how he does it. But that's just PoG culture

Cass Master

Cass

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Alright. Doing ISOs.

 

I'm buggered and conscious that I don't have a lot of time so will post as I go. 

 

Started with Yates.

 

He's on the backburner for me for now. I'm not willing to lynch him yet, but I'm also not going to put him in the clear. My main concern is his flip-flop from and his initial emotive/hardcore stance on Clov. 

 

I actually disagree with Clov's suggestion that there were no good reasons in the D1 scenario for Scum to take their own candidate off the table. I doubt mafia!Yates would suddenly decide not to lynch someone he'd been pushing hard on from the start just because he 'likes' them, but I can see him doing so if it potentially saves his own neck.

 

There were only two trains going at the time Yates dropped his vote: Yates and Clov, and Yates was in the lead. I don't think Clov was a viable candidate at the time and Yates moved his vote to Zander/started a third train after Zander had raised several eyebrows ITT.

 

Dropping Clov to vote Zander doesn't make Yates certain scum (I would've voted Zander if it wasn't for the new player D1 pass) but given Yates' stance on Clov and his situation at the time, the move does not make him clear for me.

Cass Master

Cass

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I would bet heavily tress is one of them. Will explain later

 

You do that.

 

And you would be wildly incorrect.

 

But I'm anxious to hear your explanation nonetheless.

 

 

Was awakened far too early this morning and I'm having coffee now post-nap and trying to get my head wrapped around this.  I'll be around a bit trying to do some rereading and making sense.

 

 

Well, I had Sili as firmly town based on D1 and was leaning towards him actually being the cop.  Based on that, I pretty much have to clear Cass, since she was the N0 peek.  He went from trying to lynch Dice at EoD to clearing him - that doesn't make much sense from a scum POV, so that actually seems like a cop target.  If I take the three of them off, that leaves me with a PoE you/Yates/Sooh, just like Sili said.

 

I was originally leaning mafia on Yates, but I thought his play IRT Zander was correct from a town POV, and he seemed willing enough to reconsider his read on me...when I was still a viable lynch candidate.  Maybe mafia!Yates suddenly decided he won't lynch somebody he likes (I'm assuming he likes me, anyway)...but beyond that, I can't come up it any good reason scum would be looking to take their own candidate of the table.

 

Now in regards to you, it was something I noticed yesterday before deadline.  Your reads just seem...off to me.  Specifically, your Yates read.  Everybody experienced with the two of you know you have a very hard time trusting him in games.  I mean, you used an investigation ability on him when YOU were the serial killer.  In Be Nice, he was probably the second townies person in the game.  You still (correctly)copped him.  

 

So basically, in a game where I was all set to string him up, the #1 Yates tinfoiler had him as one of the few people with a positive feeling?  Seems like a TMI-based read to me.  

 

 

 

The bold seems rather weak to me.

 

What about Yates' play IRT Zander was 'correct'? If you mean starting his train/the vote - why didn't you vote along?

 

How were you a viable lynch candidate when Yates switched his vote? Yates was the only person voting you at the time, it was two votes vs. one, and checking other people's reads, five of the eight remaining players had specifically mentioned reading you as Town. Dice and Zander were potential, but Dice was inactive and Zander was inconsistent enough to be scummier than you.

Songstress Spam Master

Songstress

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We had a shed load of snow last night and tire chains are mandatory on part of the road out of here.... so it looks like we're staying an extra night at the cabin unless the sun comes out very soon. :unsure:

 

And the WiFi is currently out so I'm stuck on my phone. *sigh* At least I have a good signal.

 

I have a headache today and I can't tell if it's due to the wine or the blood pressure spike from last night :dry:

 

For now, [V]Sooh[/v]

Yates Master

Yates

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see? this is why i hate seer cover... it makes my head hurt...

Good news. I'm not the seer this game.

probably

Yates Master

Yates

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Ugh. The math is hard. I'm trying to figure out if no lynch is an option even though we are at an odd number right now [which means it usually isn't].

 

What sucks is that I am the seer but my N0 peek was quite obviously on BFG.

My N1 peek was equally obviously on Sili - which is why I'm saying he is a liar but not scum.

 

In retrospect I probably should have used my seer ability on Clov but I think I can read him better than Sili and Clov is looking more Townish. Still, I'll probably be checking him tonight to confirm.

 

So anyway, I can only clear 1 living person. But maybe our scum pair think I'm just providing cover for Sili. And that's just fine by me. I don't think scum can kill me, Sili, Dice, or Cass tonight without clearing a bunch of people and placing themselves in the lynch pool. They might YOLO shoot me or Sili but that would still be to their detriment - *I think*. I mean, if I'm fake claiming seer and they shoot me then Sili will have 4 confirmed Townies [his 3 clears plus himself] leaving 2 scum in a pool of 3 with 6 alive. If Sili is fake claiming seer and they shoot him then I will have 3 confirmed Townies [2 alive clears plus myself] leaving 2 scum in a pool of 4 with 6 alive.

 

I think Sili and I just won this game for the Town if we no lynch. I mean, I guess scum could potentially anticipate our seer target for tonight and shoot that person if they are Town. BUT if we are going to target scum then they are screwed regardless. Am I missing anything here?

Cass Master

Cass

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Ok, Clov.

 

Still coming across as likely Town, but as stated, I don't overly like the reasons he's given for dropping Yates. Re-reading EoD1 I see that he was following along Yates' questioning of Zander after Yates changed his vote, not how to read the fact that he then didn't vote. D2 I do like his questioning of Tress and her read of Yates D1. I agree with his thoughts on Seer cover, but I'm not sure how I feel about him encouraging the Seer to outright claim this phase. The rest of his logic seems consistent. Except for some slight attitude when interacting with Yates D1, his tone and questioning is the same as I remember from the one game I've played with him, where he was Town...

 

For me he's currently null. 

Sooh Spam Master

Sooh

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To me Clov is town, and has been from the get-go of this game... BFG was the same... Sili is extremely hard to read for me.. 

 

I won't be here at DL, and I have seriously no idea who to vote for. I hope you'll let me live, seeing as 3 dead Town will make this game very hard to win.

 

Wish I could stay and do more, but you all knew about my limited access from the get-go.

Sooh Spam Master

Sooh

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Short answer - LOLZANDER. You make bad reads

long answer when not on phone

Did ANYONE not have him as scum at some point?

 

More than HALF the players in the game were on his train at some point.

 

It's possible that I make bad reads, but so do the rest of you.

 

I am not scum.

 

If you want to lynch mafia today, look another way. I am your seer.

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