[Standard] 11/10 Top Tier Vanilla+ Game Thread

[Andrej]

I'm kinda talking myself into a Kiv vote at the moment.

 

Have at thee old timer.

[hazelkrs1]

  On 11/12/2014 at 12:55 AM, Andrej said:

 

  On 11/12/2014 at 12:45 AM, Despothera said:

 

@AJ: Thing is, subtlety is a thing that exists in mafia. Scum can defend someone in the pretext that they're actually attacking someone else, but again, chainsaw defending is still defending. It IS a semantics argument, which is why it's so blah to hear people go through all the time

Yeah I get it but I also find Verb's explanation a plausible one. It helps that it's also one I agreed with. I think how Kiv handled it was kind of bad too because he instantly turned it around on Verb to make him look bad instead of acknowledging the *FACT* Verb presented in that everyone who could NK this game doesn't have to be scum.

 

Do you think Kiv had a good reason to vote Sili at the time?

No, but that being said I actually DO think a vote on Sili is pretty good for town right now cause I DO think he could be scum, and actually Kivam has odds on his side- it's more likely that Sili slipped as scum than slipped as a townie that can NK

[hazelkrs1]

  On 11/12/2014 at 12:56 AM, Andrej said:

I'm kinda talking myself into a Kiv vote at the moment.

 

Have at thee old timer.

That would be dumb and reactionary. Don't fall into OMVUS traps so easily my brolo jenkins

[hazelkrs1]

Omgus*

[WWWwombat]

This is painful to watch.

[Tommyrod]

[WWWwombat]

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[DPR]

  On 11/12/2014 at 1:08 AM, WWWwombat said:

This is painful to watch.

 

heh

[WWWwombat]

<3 Wes

[Yates]

I don't even understand what this AJ/Des/Kiv fight is about. Is there a cliff notes summary somewhere?

[Andrej]

Not much of a fight tbh, more idle commentary on my part surrounding Verb/Kivam/Despot.

[Hallia]

FINALLY CATCHING UP PRAISE JEEBUS.  Up to page four.

 

 

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  On 11/10/2014 at 12:14 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

cool I'll just post massive WoT's so i say everything in a minimum amount of posts..

 

That said: game on

 

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 12:16 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

##Thane

 

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 12:17 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

Might as well get it over with.

 

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 12:18 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

That's so depressing.

 

But also inevitable. /shrug.

 

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 12:20 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

i'll do what i can untill then though

 

 I don't like this interplay.  It comes off as fake to me.

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 1:25 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 1:24 PM, csarmi said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 1:21 PM, Leelou said:

Sup

Townie post.

Generic to the way I speak post.

 

I agree, and the vibe I get from Leelou is town so far.

 

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 2:30 PM, Andrej said:

Don't particularly like anyone atm but it's only p4 so I won't give up yet.

Barm's question to Leelou was odd if you apply it to the second post I made.

Sili voting Thane as a D1 lynch as if it's a foregone conclusion rubs me the wrong way even if it was a "joke"

HUNCH TIME.

AND NOW WORK TIME.

G'DAY

GET OUT OF MY MIND.

 

<3

 

Continuing on!

[Sili Quirrels]

yes, speak more hallia

[Hallia]

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  On 11/10/2014 at 2:33 PM, csarmi said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 2:32 PM, Thane Vakarian said:

*pinches self*
 
Yates, did you honestly just claim?

Standard Seer cover.

DND

 

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 3:41 PM, Andrej said:

Also if I'm the Seer I peeked Stelio

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Both of these fellows learned this a while back when we played a Turbo at PoG (Well, they might not have learned it there, but it was done)  So I could see them doing this as either town or wolf.

  On 11/10/2014 at 4:15 PM, Barmacral said:

[v]##Thane[/v]

 

Reason: He's made one contribution to the game and only when pressed by wombat, all posts before and since have been spam despite basically the entire rest of the game moving on to actually play.

I find myself nodding along with you here.

  On 11/10/2014 at 4:19 PM, Krakalakachkn said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 4:03 PM, Verbal32 said:

Ha!  Foiled by vote tags!

 

 

Still think rep should have been the #1 priority.  Then I could rep this post.

 

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 1:27 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 1:26 PM, Barmacral said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 1:25 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 1:24 PM, csarmi said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 1:21 PM, Leelou said:

Sup

Townie post.

Generic to the way I speak post.

Defending yourself against an accusation of being town? Weird.

Not really, that shouldn't be judged as a townie or non townie post.

 

 

Anyone getting third party vibes from Leelou here?

 

Nope.

  On 11/10/2014 at 4:45 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 4:35 PM, Despothera said:

Anyone have any lean on Wombat btw?

 

His posts seem decent to me so far. 

 

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 4:47 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 4:45 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 11/10/2014 at 4:35 PM, Despothera said:

Anyone have any lean on Wombat btw?

His posts seem decent to me so far.

I like that you were willing to respond to this. Light town lean for you

 

These two posts, I'm not sure.  Honestly, and I have just been reading them, I don't even remember anything Wombat had really said, what was decent about them?

[Darthe]

DM crapped out on me so these don't have the actual quote.

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Nynaeve, on 11 Nov 2014 - 3:50 PM, said:

I didn't realize I need to spoon feed you like a baby. I posted my thoughts for everyone to see. What person is supposed to be overjoyed about their posts being ignored? You obviously didn't like me ignoring that post. Imagine how I feel when you ask for something I posted just some hours previous to that :P

 

Jesus christ. I've honestly never seen you tunnel on something so dim-witted.

 

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This is a 91% town Nyn post.  

 

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Despothera, on 11 Nov 2014 - 3:59 PM, said:

I'm totally ready to roll with a town core of Nyn, Leelou, VerBarm, Wombat, and Kivam btw. And what an impressive town core at that

 

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I've followed you most of this game but don't get how Verbarm or Kivam are on that list for you cause I don't recall you saying much positive about either of them.  What's the reasoning on them?

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Barmacral, on 11 Nov 2014 - 4:14 PM, said:

Any votes that are on pral are because of plays Arsis made and are still as valid regardless of the player switch, it is up to Pral to convince people that they are wrong about Arsis.

 

And on that note I'm off to bed. See you all tomorrow.

 

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This is weird posturing because it assumes that Laya and Arsis have to face off and forces that mentality.  Why would Laya have to react that 

[Tommyrod]

This made me laugh
 

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• First, you have to convince yourself that you're infinitely smarter than everyone else
• Second, be sure to get really insulted that anyone can think you're a wolf
• Third, please understand that everyone is terrible (I realize this sort of overlaps with #1 but it bears repeating) so don't ever listen to them
• Fourth, and this is really important: never, ever give any logical reasons for anything you are thinking.  That can only help other people to start thinking about the game, which sounds good except see points 1 and 3.
• Fifth, the dumber you act the better.  Wolves try to kill smart people.  If you're completely unhelpful to everyone and seem like you have no idea what's going on, you get to live longer.  Do things like try to CFD the seer-peeked villager, everyone hates that.  It also helps if you can create a completely unpleasant atmosphere in the entire game while you're at it.
• Sixth, be sure to always go with your gut feelings regardless of any mechanical information that might be available to you.  
• Seventh (corollary to #6): thinking and posting are wolfy.  Don't ever exhibit a desire to figure out the game, and CERTAINLY don't go around reading stuff and making cases.
• Eighth: if you happen to rand wolf, just bus all your teammates.  Villagers are lazy, they'll never expect it.  If you can't do this, then I recommend just not posting for a day or two to seem villagery then contract a severe case of Dontwanaplayanymoreitis and sub out.

If you can abide by these simple rules, you should fit right in.

 

 

 

[hazelkrs1]

Yeah that had me GOL

 

Why oh why did Sili read that guide before any other guide???

[Sili Quirrels]

that's pretty unfair despot.

[hazelkrs1]

Twas meant in jest good sir

[Sili Quirrels]

i somehow don't think tomcat posted the guide just so we could quibble over whose the worse player.

[WWWwombat]

Wow.  Thread really died.  If you guys aren't going to play, can you at least post some seer cover?  Am I the only one who cares about winning this game?

[Sili Quirrels]

i can't say i care anymore, no.

[Sili Quirrels]

at some point you just disconnect, maybe.

[WWWwombat]

Guess we'll just have to hope scum do us a solid and use those extra kills on themselves.

[Tommyrod]

@Everyone; you're not allowed to be emo in this game.

 

I am a hypocrite and will enforce annoying PRs on you if you get whingy.