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No. That's not how a gunsmith works. Cops, PGO, vigs and anti-town have guns. Basically anything in a real life that might have a gun.

ANYTHING IN REAL LIFE?

 

REAL LIFE?

 

ULTRON?

 

REAL LIFE?

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Is it literally "gunsmith" and not like "murdersmith?"

As far as I'm concerned he painted himself into a corner with this revelation:

The reason I believe Des to not be mafia so strongly is that I visited him last night and the result was that he didn't have a gun.

That's a specific result.
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It's a weaker version of a cop. The roles I mentioned has guns.

 

Tommy, thanks for clearing that. It was partly for you because everyone kept saying that you guys are masons and I'm scummy fir not seeing that. So I pointed out prior posts which indicated otherwise

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No. That's not how a gunsmith works. Cops, PGO, vigs and anti-town have guns. Basically anything in a real life that might have a gun.

No. THAT is not how gunsmith works.

 

"The Gunsmith is an information role that can target a player at Night to learn if they have a gun in flavor."

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FTR I'm about to be out of town on an LOA today and most of tomorrow.  So I don't really expect to be playing either day.  Be back to it on Wednesday.

No problem, broseph. Just be sure to be voting Dawn before you jet.
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No. That's not how a gunsmith works. Cops, PGO, vigs and anti-town have guns. Basically anything in a real life that might have a gun.

ANYTHING IN REAL LIFE?

 

REAL LIFE?

 

ULTRON?

 

REAL LIFE?

 

This amused me.

 

Sorry ive been scarce today, prepping for a presentation in 3 hours. Once im done with that though im free for the week so will catchup later tonight. Yay for internships!

 

From what ive seen we have someone (Cant remember who. Yates I think?) Calling Dawn scum based off a reactionary ability I believe, X claiming gunsmith and there being some confusion about how is role actually works, some confusion over why Arsis's rolling RB didnt stop Nolders power and Tommy not being silenced no more. Ill have a less shit view of this once I am actually able to spend more than a minute on a page, so look for me then to the west.

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Power Role: Gunsmith – At night, target one player. You will receive a report whether that player has a gun in flavor.

 

After this I found out that anti-town, cops, vigs, fbi agents, other gunsmiths have guns.

 

Basically that yeah. Cops won't seem to have guns but in RL they have. Thats what I meant

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It's a weaker version of a cop. The roles I mentioned has guns.

 

Tommy, thanks for clearing that. It was partly for you because everyone kept saying that you guys are masons and I'm scummy fir not seeing that. So I pointed out prior posts which indicated otherwise

 

If I don't see an ability description within 3 minutes I'm going to assume you're lying.

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Power Role: Gunsmith – At night, target one player. You will receive a report whether that player has a gun in flavor.

 

After this I found out that anti-town, cops, vigs, fbi agents, other gunsmiths have guns.

 

Basically that yeah. Cops won't seem to have guns but in RL they have. Thats what I meant

 

I don't know how that fits into this game. It's the only ability I've seen so far that doesn't have a fancy character flavor.

 

Not "Just In Time." Not "Rolling Thunder."

 

Just "Gunsmith."

 

I don't believe you.

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After this I found out that anti-town, cops, vigs, fbi agents, other gunsmiths have guns.

LOL.

 

I mean, if none of us had ever played a mafia game with a gunsmith before I can see how you might think you could pass this off as a legit "argument." The problem is that there are quite a few mafia veterans in here. Your role even says "in flavor." Plus, as you point out, the function of a gunsmith is that it's a weak cop. It's purpose for being included in a game is to create situations in which there are potential false positives - like in the case of the Black Widow - that need to be further investigated. What you are trying to claim is that your version nails all anti-town. That would be WAY overpowered.

 

You basically just scum claimed for us.

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Addendum to the above - a gunsmith would also provide for a false-negative. That's how that role is balanced. So if Des were Ultron, for example, of course he would have no gun and return a result of "no gun." That wouldn't make him clear, it would just mean he doesn't have a gun.

 

Bottom line; this is a really bad fake claim - essentially a scum claim, tbh.

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Xthrax's laughable claim makes me think we're dealing with smaller independent teams. I don't know if a group of scum crowdsources a LOL claim like that.

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Power Role: Gunsmith – At night, target one player. You will receive a report whether that player has a gun in flavor.

 

After this I found out that anti-town, cops, vigs, fbi agents, other gunsmiths have guns.

 

Basically that yeah. Cops won't seem to have guns but in RL they have. Thats what I meant

I don't know how that fits into this game. It's the only ability I've seen so far that doesn't have a fancy character flavor.

 

Not "Just In Time." Not "Rolling Thunder."

 

Just "Gunsmith."

 

I don't believe you.

My primary role doesn't have a fancy theme-related title in my role PM either, for what that's worth - not sure whether to believe X or not, however. He's not the one on the chopping block for today, and neither is Des. Perhaps more info will come out to clear it up further.

 

I'm planning to vote Dawn, but as I recall Darthe was pretty hot about getting his chance to be first on the train before he went to bed last night. We could use a vote count and probably a good old-fashioned fistfight between Darthe and AJ to figure out who gets to activate their lynch leader ability. :tongue:

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And thanks for the info that not all roles have flavor titles. I would guess Mynd had to pad the set as more players joined in the final days of signup.

I received an ominous message and I don't know what to make of it.

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No. That's not how a gunsmith works. Cops, PGO, vigs and anti-town have guns. Basically anything in a real life that might have a gun.

ANYTHING IN REAL LIFE?

 

REAL LIFE?

 

ULTRON?

 

REAL LIFE?

This amused me.

 

Sorry ive been scarce today, prepping for a presentation in 3 hours. Once im done with that though im free for the week so will catchup later tonight. Yay for internships!

 

From what ive seen we have someone (Cant remember who. Yates I think?) Calling Dawn scum based off a reactionary ability I believe, X claiming gunsmith and there being some confusion about how is role actually works, some confusion over why Arsis's rolling RB didnt stop Nolders power and Tommy not being silenced no more. Ill have a less shit view of this once I am actually able to spend more than a minute on a page, so look for me then to the west.

Mynd screwed up with that but he made it up to me. :D

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Tress - Darthe is already voting. You're good to go.

He's [X] not the one on the chopping block for today, and neither is Des.

Exactly. That's a big driver in why I don't feel any motivation to engage X in any meaningful debate during this day phase.

 

FTR, I'm also taking Dawn's complete silence today as proof that the information I received is accurate - since I did have some concerns about the legitimacy of the information prior to daybreak. Everything is adding up and coming together, though, so we are on a righteous path.

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Oh nevermind Darthe said: "I need to be the first person on a train to activate my second ability, that's what I switched in my role PM.  Thus, if we are taking out Dawn I need you all to unvote so that I make it to the first slot.  I would also consider any pile on until I am first to be essentially a scum claim."

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After this I found out that anti-town, cops, vigs, fbi agents, other gunsmiths have guns.

LOL.

 

I mean, if none of us had ever played a mafia game with a gunsmith before I can see how you might think you could pass this off as a legit "argument." The problem is that there are quite a few mafia veterans in here. Your role even says "in flavor." Plus, as you point out, the function of a gunsmith is that it's a weak cop. It's purpose for being included in a game is to create situations in which there are potential false positives - like in the case of the Black Widow - that need to be further investigated. What you are trying to claim is that your version nails all anti-town. That would be WAY overpowered.

 

You basically just scum claimed for us.

Look at the wiki. That's what it says. And oh yeah, the wiki says mafia has a gun but SK doesn't. If you look at the wiki-

 

wiki.mafiacscum.net/index.php?title=Gunsmith

 

What I said us what it says.

 

Tommy, only my special ability has a name. It is called Espionage.

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