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  On 4/5/2014 at 7:03 PM, Tommyrod said:

RTE and Lenlo sound rustled and forced since Hallia's claim; I just don't believe them. They should have more conviction and more willingness to compromise. I'm gonna let other people hop in here and comment, but I'd say it's gonna be them as scum about 85% of the time here.

 

Only means you'll be wrong 85% of the time then.

 

Please do what I said Tommy. You will see the light. I don't understand how YOU are so uncompromising about us given you won't even bother to read integral parts of the game and relevant parts I have suggested.

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I don't think they can be mafia unless killing one of their own was a major cock up.

 

And they were like 'how the hell did that happen?'

 

Until they needed to claim the kill.

 

@tommy - why do you think RTL have said they killed PFG? Do you believe them?

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I gotta run do girlie things for a bit (shopping with mah 2 sisters :happy: ) I'll try to pop in on mobile, but likely won't be active for the next two hours or so.

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  On 4/5/2014 at 6:55 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I'm willing to believe Hallia is wrong. I am. I don't like the idea but I am.

 

But my #1 scum read is still SS.

 

What the hell? The ONLY thing keeping me from voting you right now is your vig claim. Honestly the way you are, I'm thinking you are 3rd party and going for the town cred. I AM town. I don't have a fancy role to fall back on to claim. I'm vanilla. I've had about enough of your emo raging bs without changing your reads. I will LAUGH my ass off when you are wrong and you some how manage to get me lynched. Up until Thursday I have had a trickle of internet and reading this thread was impossible. Tina had to drop out for family reasons and my replacement partner has been gone. I know I've not been playing the best game, but you are wrong. 

 

You were my number one read for scum, but I still haven't had a chance to read up on a few interactions I wanted to. I am in and out today, like I've mentioned a few times, so I haven't had time yet, but I will. I don't like the way you are trying to push through a lynch on a weekend when we still have loads of time. Talk about derp. 

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  On 4/5/2014 at 7:09 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:55 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I'm willing to believe Hallia is wrong. I am. I don't like the idea but I am.

 

But my #1 scum read is still SS.

 

What the hell? The ONLY thing keeping me from voting you right now is your vig claim. Honestly the way you are, I'm thinking you are 3rd party and going for the town cred. I AM town. I don't have a fancy role to fall back on to claim. I'm vanilla. I've had about enough of your emo raging bs without changing your reads. I will LAUGH my ass off when you are wrong and you some how manage to get me lynched. Up until Thursday I have had a trickle of internet and reading this thread was impossible. Tina had to drop out for family reasons and my replacement partner has been gone. I know I've not been playing the best game, but you are wrong. 

 

You were my number one read for scum, but I still haven't had a chance to read up on a few interactions I wanted to. I am in and out today, like I've mentioned a few times, so I haven't had time yet, but I will. I don't like the way you are trying to push through a lynch on a weekend when we still have loads of time. Talk about derp. 

 

 

If this is true (shocker: don't think so) I'll have been wrong once this game.

 

I don't believe the last scum isn't you or hallia. If you aren't scum neither is Hallia. I don't believe it.

 

So who is scum then? Since you had EVERYONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF as a scum lean...

 

Only way anyone else here was scum is if scum didn't share a QT. Because all the other players are too active and strong to have let scum misplay so much thus far.

 

I know what I'll do. I'll wait for Despo to get in here. He LIVES for WoTs and he'll bring in all the vote counts and the relevant PFG posts (god knows he was involved in them all) and we clean this game off nice and easy.

 

Can't believe I'm actually hoping for a Des WoT. What has this game come to?

Save the townies Des!

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  On 4/5/2014 at 7:07 PM, Ithillian said:

I don't think they can be mafia unless killing one of their own was a major cock up.

 

And they were like 'how the hell did that happen?'

 

Until they needed to claim the kill.

 

@tommy - why do you think RTL have said they killed PFG? Do you believe them?

 

I'm still thinking about that. I don't have the answers yet, I'm just going on how I perceive the behavior of the individual players (moreso than their claims) and what the dead scum had to say about those players.

 

I'm out for a while.

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  On 4/5/2014 at 6:52 PM, Hallia said:

So he can get sassy with me and try to intimidate me, but I toss in a little joking and it's terrible? O.o

I've been telling him to chill to fyi.
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  On 4/5/2014 at 7:03 PM, Tommyrod said:

RTE and Lenlo sound rustled and forced since Hallia's claim; I just don't believe them. They should have more conviction and more willingness to compromise. I'm gonna let other people hop in here and comment, but I'd say it's gonna be them as scum about 85% of the time here.

Then your 85% wrong. Also I'm perfectly willing to compromise, but ATM there hasn't been any room or discussion to. It's only been "They are scum I'm positive but not enough to vote them"
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  On 4/5/2014 at 7:12 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 7:09 PM, Leelou said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:55 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I'm willing to believe Hallia is wrong. I am. I don't like the idea but I am.

 

But my #1 scum read is still SS.

 

What the hell? The ONLY thing keeping me from voting you right now is your vig claim. Honestly the way you are, I'm thinking you are 3rd party and going for the town cred. I AM town. I don't have a fancy role to fall back on to claim. I'm vanilla. I've had about enough of your emo raging bs without changing your reads. I will LAUGH my ass off when you are wrong and you some how manage to get me lynched. Up until Thursday I have had a trickle of internet and reading this thread was impossible. Tina had to drop out for family reasons and my replacement partner has been gone. I know I've not been playing the best game, but you are wrong. 

 

You were my number one read for scum, but I still haven't had a chance to read up on a few interactions I wanted to. I am in and out today, like I've mentioned a few times, so I haven't had time yet, but I will. I don't like the way you are trying to push through a lynch on a weekend when we still have loads of time. Talk about derp. 

 

 

If this is true (shocker: don't think so) I'll have been wrong once this game.

 

I don't believe the last scum isn't you or hallia. If you aren't scum neither is Hallia. I don't believe it.

 

So who is scum then? Since you had EVERYONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF as a scum lean...

 

Only way anyone else here was scum is if scum didn't share a QT. Because all the other players are too active and strong to have let scum misplay so much thus far.

 

I know what I'll do. I'll wait for Despo to get in here. He LIVES for WoTs and he'll bring in all the vote counts and the relevant PFG posts (god knows he was involved in them all) and we clean this game off nice and easy.

 

Can't believe I'm actually hoping for a Des WoT. What has this game come to?

Save the townies Des!

 

 

Lol I'm a bad person to be appealing to tbh, cause I actually don't think SS is scum and I think she might be right about you being third party  :blink:

 

And honestly, I wouldn't mind at all voting you today RTE solely on your tone alone. Your refusal to budge on your reads, the manner in which you have emorage defended yourself and spouted off a million times about how right you have been this game. Here's the thing dude- part of being a good townie (if you were one) isn't just being right about something, it's being able to convince others the same thing without frothing at the mouth like you have been today. Your behavior today has been just BEGGING for a lynch because of that.

 

And honestly, there's a pretty decent chance we'd hit scum as well imo. Your play could fit third party Hunter/OP SK like crazy. You've been overstressing how clear you are because of your reads, but a SK can scumhunt just as easily as town can. If anything, I think you suddenly got overexcited today because yall killed scum so you thought you could ride on the Vig claim till endgame mebbe.

 

I also think there might have been a slip. There have been several times where you've said or implied that you knew it would be going to night tonight, that we wouldn't lynch last scum. Like when you were threatening to NK Hallia no matter what tonight (when if Hallia is just wrong and SS is last scum, game would end .... unless there was still a 3rd party out there). To support this, you also seemed to strongly consider the chance of there being 4 scum in the game, and yeah as many have pointed out, this would not really seem plausible to most townies. A SK tho might think there could be a 3 man scum team besides him or something.

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If there is a third party it isn't us.

 

You are all underestimating the fact that there was a Mafia backup. Who might not have had access to the Mafia QT therefore making it possible there are 3 other mafia.

 

Who do you think is likely to be scum? We haven't been counter-claimed and we won't be, and we aren't third party so let's hear it.

 

And as always:

 

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Backup doesnt mean symp mate. Its like a deputy for a cop I suspect, gets the powers should the original die.

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That being said, technically the strong play here even in that scenario could be lynching someone other than RTL today, and if game doesn't end we can use RTL's kill as a second lynch sort of since RTE offered to let us pick, and if the kill didn't land where it was supposed to, we lynch RTL the next day. That kinda covers all the bases.

 

Either way, HaXorZ is still LOCK CLEAR imo, in fact even stronger so. I'm really :proud: of her game this game, when she shows backbone and doesn't stand down easily it's basically a STRONG indicator that she's town. When challenged this game, she has risen up to it and held her ground, whereas she knows that she is all too good at being able to fade in the background if she wants and not rise to other's bait.

 

Not only that, but Straw Hats seemed to go for one lynch besides themselves before they looked like they had serious heat, and that was HaXorZ. If I'm not mistaken, PFG also went @ Hallia a little bit. So you have two scum that spewed her as town (also, a quick :wub: to Pray for helping to LOCK CLEAR us for everyone else :biggrin: ).

 

Add to that her claim. While I normally don't easily accept claims, I think the way she came out with hers essentially LOCK CLEARS her more than anything else in the game. She claimed role info that cleared the easiest mislynch left in the game. I pretty much agree with Tommy there.

 

Speaking of which, lemme bust out the ol POE again real quick

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  On 4/5/2014 at 11:40 PM, Lenlo said:

Backup doesnt mean symp mate. Its like a deputy for a cop I suspect, gets the powers should the original die.

 

Yeah this

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  On 4/5/2014 at 11:42 PM, Despothera said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 11:40 PM, Lenlo said:

Backup doesnt mean symp mate. Its like a deputy for a cop I suspect, gets the powers should the original die.

 

Yeah this

 

 

Fair enough. Thanks. Who do you think is scum then?

 

One of the "lock clears" then I guess?

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YOLOHASHSWAG

HaXorZ

Crunk

WiFuM

 

Are all LOCK CLEAR. The only one I'd prob ever tinfoil on in that group at this point is WiFuM since Ithi and Turin are experienced enough to know how to sell a bus to make it look legit. Turin has made himself useless this game by hiding behind his tunnelvision on me again, and Ithi hasn't seemed as energetic or confident in looking for mafia.

 

I still don't personally see SS being scum this game. Not just from Hallia's evidence, but because Leelou has had good tone when she has posted this game imo, and I remember both SH and PFG going for SS at times. Might have to check the timing cause it could have been distancing, but yeah I doubt it.

 

Which leaves RTL and Clarthe. I already stated my feelings on RTE and the possibility of their slot being third party, but Clarthe imo is the Executioner that I think everyone forgot about. I think both could be scum honestly, if RTL was a one shot Hunter/SK

 

That being said, it still would be a good idea to reexamine all the ins and outs again, reaffirm my clears, put all my ducks in a row, etc etc. Will gather evidence later tonight. For now, I go back to sleep, cause we went to a wedding today so I didn't get to sleep as much. Toodles.

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Probs won't get to go back through some schtuffs till after audit btw. But figured I would do my service to humanity for the day and post that gif in as many internets as I can for now.

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I know I have been absent the entire game, and probably my input isn't worth much but yeah I've been reading the game on my phone so pretty caught up. Due to it being a limited connection, I can't post well. 

 

Hallia, my hydra team mate has been playing a great game so far. Since I'm here thought I'd comment on the main topic now.  

  On 4/5/2014 at 5:59 PM, Hallia said:

Sexy Siblings isn't.   We're the town roleblocker and blocked her last night.  If we're sure there's one team left, then it isn't the sexy siblings.

 

HOW'S THAT FOR WERK

Yep we blocked them

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:00 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 5:59 PM, Hallia said:

Sexy Siblings isn't.   We're the town roleblocker and blocked her last night.  If we're sure there's one team left, then it isn't the sexy siblings.

 

HOW'S THAT FOR WERK

 

Liar. You're both scum.

 

You know a q

 

Just pushing it away, huh

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:01 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Ugh keyboard.

 

You know a quick way to figure this out?

 

When either you or SS get lynched, we figure out which one of you is lying.

 

You realize blocking SS wouldn't prevent a mafia nk right? Not as far as I understand. It would prevent if they had an individual role, not faction kill?

According to the standard 25% rule, there will be 3 and now just one. Which I'm mostly sure is you. So much pushing on the SS.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:02 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:00 PM, Tommyrod said:

I don't think SS is scum regardless of what Hallia says about roleblocking, just based on that Thane quote

Get @ me 

 

Then she's scum looking for town cred if SS gets lynched.

 

It's either Hallia or SS or both.

 

It's pretty obvious scum hasn't had an exceptional game so I don't expect a deep wolf.

 

Oh man you are slipping everywhere. We are looking to get SS lynched. She was trying to prevent a mislynch. Get your facts right.

 

Fix on something, one scum, two scum-really not making sense.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:03 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:03 PM, _CLOUD said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:01 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Ugh keyboard.

 

You know a quick way to figure this out?

 

When either you or SS get lynched, we figure out which one of you is lying.

 

You realize blocking SS wouldn't prevent a mafia nk right? Not as far as I understand. It would prevent if they had an individual role, not faction kill?

 

A faction kill is always send in individually and can be blocked by a roleblocker. These are mafia basics dude.

 

 

Then Hallia and SS are both lying.

 

I am very very confident one of them is scum.

 

I thought you said they were 2 scum?

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:07 PM, Hallia said:

I did well day 1.  I think I'm doing well for a mostly one headed Hydra :tongue:

You did really well on all the days :laugh:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:08 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

There is a reason Leelou didn't get ninja-hammered. She's scum.

 

Hallia is coming in to stop the lynch. It's their only hope.

 

SS is scum. Hallia is scum. Game over.

 

PFG was a back-up so maybe didn't have access to the QT unless, was it Saren?, died. Therefore their back up is dead, and that makes 4 mafia. SS today, Hallia tomorrow unless our vig has another shot.

You say she is scum and we are scum. What about all the other players. Anyone else could have come along and hammered. So going according to your theory that she was not hammered since she was scum and her teammates weren't voting-that all the rest of the players were what-sitting ducks?

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  On 4/5/2014 at 6:10 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:09 PM, Tommyrod said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:08 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

There is a reason Leelou didn't get ninja-hammered. She's scum.

 

Hallia is coming in to stop the lynch. It's their only hope.

 

SS is scum. Hallia is scum. Game over.

 

PFG was a back-up so maybe didn't have access to the QT unless, was it Saren?, died. Therefore their back up is dead, and that makes 4 mafia. SS today, Hallia tomorrow unless our vig has another shot.

Uh huh. And they are lock scum why exactly?

 

 

I haven't been wrong so far and I won't be wrong here.

 

Scum is either Hallia or Leelou or both. I'm going with both but might just be SS. That's it. Game Over.

 

You don't have any reasons but just pushing the envelope. And thats not gonna get you anywhere.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:14 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

I'm tired of this. This is so damn stupid.

 

I can't believe Hallia, who has been absent all game comes in and derails a train, and Tom who is in the first quarter of the game, is rehashing old things until he finally comes to speed and is swaying voting.

 

We are the damn Vig. We are also trackers.

 

We knew Dap/Krak were town. We tracked them.

 

We shot PFG.

 

Now stop wasting everyone's time and kill the mafia.

 

God, so so stupid that we had to claim. Lynch SS and we are shooting Hallia tonight. That's all folks.

Oh, so you claim such a OP role. Tracking a person doesn't clear them at all. You will only note a movement if they do something at night. This is just blandly putting out an action to support that claim. No one can say you did/didn't do that action, so no.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:15 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

And sorry Lenlo but I am taking full credit for the PFG shot.

 

So say all the crap you want about my game but I've been right thus far. And when you're the vig you only need to make it till the night to make a difference.

 

Well, our hydra is the difference.

 

And some of you are making fools of yourselves getting fooled by Hallia coming in to save Leelou.

 

Bye scum team

Resorting to bad mouthing now? 

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:16 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

Hallia if we had a dayshot I would have killed you by now. I wouldn't even wait till night. But please keep posting so I can shoot you after we lynch SS.

Firstly, I'm real proud of a Hallia to stand by her statement even after all these threats. 

 

Secondly, you must be that desperate to save yourself now. A townie doesn't resort to threatening and bad mouthing to prevent a mislynch-they use logic and reasons. Looks like she hit the sore spot.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:17 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:16 PM, Hallia said:

Didn't Len say earlier there was only one more member? As did many more? And now there are suddenly two?

 

I believe there are 2.

 

And you defending SS proves it. If we're wrong we shoot you tonight and we end the game anyways. Time's up scum.

 

Your hydra is having an inner clash-Len says something-you say something. We weren't defending, we just stated what our action was last night and what would be the conclusion that's pretty obvious. Way to subtly sneak that in.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:18 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:17 PM, _CLOUD said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:15 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:14 PM, Hallia said:

I dun buy it.  You would've claimed that wayyyyy earlier methinks.

Why? Weve had no reason to claim until this farce.

 

 

Are you sure you aren't mafia? >.>

 

What is this? Yes im sure thats why we claimed you bum.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:16 PM, Turin Turambar said:

What you do night one?

Track Dap/Krak. If your wondering why we didnt reveal when Amega/Thane claimed tracker its cause it would have been stupid, but now you know why I didnt unvote for the claim.

 

This is main reason why I thought you are scum. You playing like that could have cost town the whole game. But that doesn't matter since you pretty much outed yourself. See, if you were town and someone claimed a role which you were it would have been in yours and town's best interest to counter claim it. What if they had gotten away with it?

 

Methinks you false claimed vig and to add power to that to make you more valuable claimed tracker too forgetting that they had already done so.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:20 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:19 PM, _CLOUD said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:18 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

We tracked Dap/Krak.

 

They did nothing. Cleared them as town for me as far as I was concerned.

 

I wanted to shoot someone but Len said no  :sad:

 

When you track someone and you get a result back which says that they did nothing it doesn't clear them but whatever.

 

 

Was I wrong?

Tell me was I Wrong?

 

I'll keep repeating it so we don't mislynch.

 

Yep you were wrong.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:20 PM, Lenlo said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:19 PM, _CLOUD said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:18 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

We tracked Dap/Krak.

 

They did nothing. Cleared them as town for me as far as I was concerned.

 

I wanted to shoot someone but Len said no  :sad:

 

When you track someone and you get a result back which says that they did nothing it doesn't clear them but whatever.

 

It means they dont have a targetable role, which scum usually do, and when combined with scumhunting ingame can clear people to some. Its an informative role just like cop is.

 

Oh really, scum don't have targetable role. Ever considered a mafia goon? I have not played many advanced game, but I'm kinda sure that unless its a role madness game, there would be atleast one powerless mafia.

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:20 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:19 PM, Hallia said:

Magical Vig/Tracker combo? Mmmmhm.

 

Hallia at this point I'm going to shoot you tonight anyways for derailing this lynch anyways. So, sucks for you if you're just playing a bad town game.

 

Sure, go ahead threatening, you are only deepening the pit you have dug.

 
  On 4/5/2014 at 6:24 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

 

  On 4/5/2014 at 6:22 PM, Tommyrod said:

Well based on mafia spew and aggression it's not Clarthe, HaXorz, or SS.

That leaves me (town), Yolo (probably town) and WiFuM (no reason they can't be town I think).

So yeah, you're screwed.

 

Bold is right.

 

Rest is wrong.

 

We aren't screwed. You know who is screwed if you mislynch us? Town. And especially you.

 

Bye bye Mafia credibility. This is you shooting Chaelca all over again.

 

I thought you were better at this game Tommy.

 

State one reason with clear logic other than falling back on your role, why we shouldn't lynch you after all this.

 

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