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Verbal32 Spam Master

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So, anyone else feel that Despot is off? Cause...I don't think he's town

I'd actually be more inclined to think that you are scum because of posts like this. You are very null for me atm which is troubling.

Why is a null on D1 troubling?

WWWwombat Spam Master

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Excellent Day 1 so far.

 

AJ comes in with a completely overdone Darthe act and Despo goes nuts on him.  Both start garnering votes.  Multiple people bring up gambit possibility.  Consequentially, WIFOM and FoSes abound.  Then AJ comes back with the "LOL I WAS DRUNK" excuse for backpedaling and Despo does a cryptic unvote on AJ.  AJ picks an easy target (amega) and tries to make a scumslip out of something that isn't a scumslip by putting words in his mouth.  Despo jumps all over it.  Both of these guys are dirty.  They want to fight but don't want to lynch.  Classic overdistancing.

 

Please note the people trying to push onto Kaylee, Peace, or Amega.  These are also suspect.

 

 

 

 

Vote: AJ

Andrej Spam Master

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@CS - the meta is pretty spot on. Most would likely agree that a lurking CS = scum CS. I saw your comment about getting sick which is all good but for me when you are commenting on other matters instead of addressing direct posts to you and leaving your vote on me looks sketchy. Your commentary towards Amega was also a bit redundant.

 

@Verb - Null isn't always troubling early on but in this case I find his posts to be a little guarded. His first post asks about siggie rotations, several pages later all he wants to know is why I RVS'd him and makes a comment that he thinks Despo is off without adding any support to it.

 

@Wombat - I think you should double check your statement. I poked Amega a bit for the Peace comment but follow up later saying I don't think it was an actual slip on his part. He explained his thoughts behind it well enough to understand why he chose his wording IMO.

 

Let's do this.

 

Hard claim: I am Phong. Doc.

 

We've got about 3 more days before DL to secure a lynch so I don't want anymore time wasted on me. I think any of Kaylee, CS and wombat are good wagons. Kaylee's timing of her read change doesn't match the flow of the thread. She says her mind changed after Despo started to address other issues in regards to me but this happened prior to her saying she'd vote either of us. CS I gave thoughts on already. Wombat's OP and joining one of the lead wagons is suspect IMO. He doesn't provide any sort of analysis of his own as to why he feels anyone pushing those other players should be suspect while also saying I am only more interested in rhetoric.

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AJ (4) - Csarmi, Kaylee, Ame, Wombat

Kaylee (3) - AJ, Leelou, Peace

Amega (2) - Despo, Verbal

 

Not Voting:, Hallia, Puppets, Xthrax

 

With 12 Alive it takes 7 to lynch

 

Deadline is set for Thursday, Feb. 20th at 9:00 AM CST

 

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Kaylee Spam Master

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They're allowed. How about you reiterate why you think I am likely to be scum then.

Yeah I said I was wrong about the rule, as did the mod. You can't remember from a few pages ago?

 

Your gun ho for Des then backing off saying meta makes him more likely town. It isn't that you changed your mind, it was the reason. I'd have to get to a computer, which I can do later today, to read back through your posts for examples.

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Sure I can remember. You also haven't been very specific and have changed up your story multiple times.

 

First you thought Des and I are both scum because the interaction seems forced therefore we are gambiting. Then you are no longer sure of Des but still think I am scum. I have already pointed out how your timing doesn't align. Allowing the fact that you reread and have came to a different conclusion is fine. But I have asked for examples about what Despo said in order to change your read that you haven't been able to provide. You say that I am scummy because my opinion changed due to a meta read but you aren't guilty of this for reasons that you haven't provided other than to say you have trouble reading him?

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Don't know that I buy your claim. My reads change as I read and rethink things. Also I thought we weren't allowed to claim character or roles...

 

 

The reason I'm not sure about your claim is your play hasn't come across as town to me.

 

 

Regardless of the above, we aren't lynching an uncountered Doc claim on D1.

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thanks for the cryptic vote verbal. and i hope your on our side this time. With a character claim on one who so badly reeked of scum we're in quite the position. I doubt a real doc would waste their time claiming D1 even if AJ was faking. The cop could always do some work but once again that would provide an easy NK the following day if they claimed.

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@CS - the meta is pretty spot on. Most would likely agree that a lurking CS = scum CS. I saw your comment about getting sick which is all good but for me when you are commenting on other matters instead of addressing direct posts to you and leaving your vote on me looks sketchy. Your commentary towards Amega was also a bit redundant.

 

@Verb - Null isn't always troubling early on but in this case I find his posts to be a little guarded. His first post asks about siggie rotations, several pages later all he wants to know is why I RVS'd him and makes a comment that he thinks Despo is off without adding any support to it.

 

@Wombat - I think you should double check your statement. I poked Amega a bit for the Peace comment but follow up later saying I don't think it was an actual slip on his part. He explained his thoughts behind it well enough to understand why he chose his wording IMO.

 

Let's do this.

 

Hard claim: I am Phong. Doc.

 

We've got about 3 more days before DL to secure a lynch so I don't want anymore time wasted on me. I think any of Kaylee, CS and wombat are good wagons. Kaylee's timing of her read change doesn't match the flow of the thread. She says her mind changed after Despo started to address other issues in regards to me but this happened prior to her saying she'd vote either of us. CS I gave thoughts on already. Wombat's OP and joining one of the lead wagons is suspect IMO. He doesn't provide any sort of analysis of his own as to why he feels anyone pushing those other players should be suspect while also saying I am only more interested in rhetoric.

 

I hate you so much.  Playing like a clown, OMGUSing people who call you on it, and then claiming doc at L - 3 with 3 days left?  That is straight up terrible.  Have you been chasing the Phoenix?

 

 

Not a clue where I'm standing, re-read not possible without a working brain.

 

Get it working  Or else.

 

 

 

Don't know that I buy your claim. My reads change as I read and rethink things. Also I thought we weren't allowed to claim character or roles...

 

 

The reason I'm not sure about your claim is your play hasn't come across as town to me.

 

 

Regardless of the above, we aren't lynching an uncountered Doc claim on D1.

 

 

Agreed.  Got mixed feelings on AJ's claim, but there's no way we're lynching him for it today.

WWWwombat Spam Master

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unvote

 

Vote: No Lynch

 

 

 

Feeling better about Des after reread.  We have 12 players in the game.  Mafia is obviously Megabyte, Hack, and Slash imo.  Hex may be in the game as SK or may not.  If not, no lynch is a good move here.  Even number of players favors scum, so if we NL and scum kills, we've actually forced them to give us info without disadvantaging ourselves much.

 

If Hex is an SK, then at least we'll know it when we make our decision tomorrow.

Kaylee Spam Master

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Sure I can remember. You also haven't been very specific and have changed up your story multiple times.

 

First you thought Des and I are both scum because the interaction seems forced therefore we are gambiting. Then you are no longer sure of Des but still think I am scum. I have already pointed out how your timing doesn't align. Allowing the fact that you reread and have came to a different conclusion is fine. But I have asked for examples about what Despo said in order to change your read that you haven't been able to provide. You say that I am scummy because my opinion changed due to a meta read but you aren't guilty of this for reasons that you haven't provided other than to say you have trouble reading him?

 

Bold: Didn't Leelou say the same thing...about me being vague? I said anyone that wants more explanation should ask and I'd do so to be best of my ability. Also, I have explained things and have been specific. I just haven't multi-quoted since I primarily can't get on a computer and post from my phone. 

 

Blue: I'll explain how this is wrong as I address things below...

 

Purple: Not being sure of Des isn't changing my story. Just means I see a possibility of him being town, but still can see him as scum...hence the not sure. As for the timing...that comes from me being online and checking when I can. As I said, I looked at what he was saying and decided he could be town but am undecided/unsure on him.

 

Green: That's bull. I said I couldn't quote it atm but I paraphrased what I was referring to.

 

Orange: No you misunderstand me. I have provided other reasons other than I have a hard time reading him. That's not meta, this particular game I'm having a hard time reading him. I said why as well just didn't quote as I wasn't able to at the time. My reasoning for being unsure of Des is partly meta, partly gameplay. For me it's being unsure. You changed your mind entirely based on meta. That's not the same thing. It's similar yes, and had I changed a view just off meta I'd expect to be looked at.

 

 

 

 

Don't know that I buy your claim. My reads change as I read and rethink things. Also I thought we weren't allowed to claim character or roles...

 

 

The reason I'm not sure about your claim is your play hasn't come across as town to me.

 

 

Regardless of the above, we aren't lynching an uncountered Doc claim on D1.

 

Didn't say we should, just that I was going to go back and look for the reasons that he asked for.

 

 

Now that I've addressed that I'll go back and look at quotes for Des and AJ. 

 

Also I'll Unvote for now and see what I think after I get those quotes. I won't lynch an uncc'd Doc, even one that I'm not sure I believe.

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