[Basic] The Matrix - Game Over

[GoldeneyesND]

As per usual, I'd prefer to reveal my investigation closer to the actual deadline so we can get more info today. I'm not trying to bully anyone into any actions, so place your votes where you'd like them. However, if I see someone getting strung up and the information I have makes me sure or fairly certain that person is town, I will remark on it. 

 

Theo's reads are interesting. has anyone iso'd her? Cause I believe she gave one of her teammates away now that I just reread it. I'll be viewing them tonight. 

[Andrej]

unvote; vote Darthe

 

I think it's about time we get this done.

[GoldeneyesND]

What are the odds Darthe is a GF and not a miller?

[GoldeneyesND]

nevermind, I meant to say scum. I have gf on my brain

[GoldeneyesND]

Meh. This game kinda died.

 

Unvote, Vote Err

 

This doesn't sound like the town Despo we know and ...something

[Nolder]

Votecount

Err - Des (1) 

Darthe - Andrej (1)

 

With 9 players alive it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline: Sunday 10PM PST

[Xthrax]

I agree with Andrej. Time we got the miller thing done.

Vote Darthe

[Xthrax]

And Golden, I think may have figured out who you mean. Waiting on your investigation

[Darthe]

Wait 4 it

[GoldeneyesND]

And Golden, I think may have figured out who you mean. Waiting on your investigation

 

This would be a good time to state your read. If you wait, people will fos you for this ^ comment. See how the very next comment was about just that?

[Luciena]

 

 

Meh. This game kinda died.

 

Unvote, Vote Err

This doesn't sound like the town Despo we know and ...something

This made me Lol

[Xthrax]

 

And Golden, I think may have figured out who you mean. Waiting on your investigation

 

This would be a good time to state your read. If you wait, people will fos you for this ^ comment. See how the very next comment was about just that?

 

 

Ah my bad, was skimming through Theo's posts and didn't have a chance to post later. Well there are a few people she specifically mentioned during the course of the game.

 

One was Basel, who had a suspicion on her initially. She calls his initial vote on her opportunistic and says that he should be suspected for his consolidation vote later on Err. She says the Basel and Darthe are having an artificial conversation. This as we find out know is a scum trying to get a townie lynched.

 

She also says alongside that she doesn't believe Darthe's miller claim.

 

Earlier after her comments on Vos, when she was voted for she says that people are interpreting her as scummy. She calls says his actions look scummy but later comes out and says clear that she leans town on him.

 

Another person she says that who looks scummy initially is Err. But later she said, she wouldn't place her vote on him for analysing the game mechanics. She says that it might have been thinking aloud or could be potenially a slip from mafia.

 

Out of all these comments, her ones on Vos and Err seem particularly suspicious. Both have defended themselves outright, but these pinged for me. 

 

Golden, you say that you're not really feeling the Err train. Is this as a result of an an actual cop investigation or is it your read on Err? Currently these 2 seem suspicious, but as there isn't much to go on, I'm keeping my vote fixed on Darthe

[Niniel]

Luci and Tina, could we get some lists of reads from you?

 

I still haven´t re-read but from memory...

 

Theo defended Err and Vos. She thought AJ, X and Vos were town. She was suspicisous of Des, me and Darthe. Just going by this I think Err, Vos, AJ and X are suspects. I´m not sure if Theo is the type that defends her team mates or try to call them out. Since she is new I think she defended one or two and I think they are in that group. 

 

As I said in my last post I´m also suspicious of Luci. She has contributed very little. 

 

I understand that you don´t want to share the night info right away but it would be good with some help here. :)

 

I´m not interested in lynching Golden, Des or Darthe right now. 

 

Have I forgotten anyone?

 

Vote Luci

[GoldeneyesND]

OK it's around 12 hours left, but it's SuperBowl sunday for me and I likely won't be on til evening. Theo grouped 3 players together in her reads. I figured she was hiding a teammate in there, so I investigated the one I had a hunch about. Confirmed guilty result

 

Vote AJ

 

I suggest everyone iso him to come up with more ideas for his partners. 

[Darthe]

AJ

 

Did you have to wait so long?

[Babar Hasan Khan]

:) loving it

 

Vote AJ

[Niniel]

Excellent!

 

Unvote

 

Vote AJ

[nervositee]

Vote AJ

 

I'll try to come back with a ISO later. The thing about AJs flip that I'm most unsure of how to read is his detailed description of why there wouldn't be a GF in this game. It made a lot of sense, but now I'm not too sure. Could complicate smoking out the last scummer. I'm gonna leave deciding how to read this to someone more familiar with game-balancing though.

 

I also agree Err is pretty safe to assume as town. 

 

AJ has also been pretty defending of Tina the whole game, making sure not to exclude her from his reads, but always defending her, diverting attention from her when people votes her. Also a player to ISO when finding tomorrows lynch, I recon. 

[Darthe]

Tina, Luci, Xrax

 

Nerv, Des, Err

 

 

I think that fairly groups the way my two lists reconcile the mafia here.   I expect to see a GF in this group so.. sorry GE but from this point forward your results mean less to me.   Also, I think it more likely to find mafia in the top row than the bottom.  Did we get a doc claim or town view?   If not, let's examine this.

 

8 alive, 1 mafia, 2 town PR, 1 neg util, 4 VT

 

Best case scenario the 1 mafia is vanilla, worst case they are GF

 

this means that NK on a VT + cop view on townie =

 

7 alive, 1 mafia 2 town PR, 1 neg util, 1 clear, 3 vt

 

and if GE has a second clear then tomorrow the game is mechanically over barring me. soooo...

 

N3: 8 alive, 3 cleared

 

D4: 7 alive, 4 cleared

 

N4: 6 alive, 5 cleared

 

if we lynch me tomorrow and GE has two living cop views this game is over.  With three this whole thing is over even if one is a GF.

[Xthrax]

Oh good

 

Unvote Vote Andrej

[Babar Hasan Khan]

for the whole GF thingy.... the way i see it (and i agree with AJ on this) that if Darthe is actually a miller then the remaining mafia might be vanilla mafia and Goldens viewing might not be as useless as if there was only GF left.

 

and if Darthe is a mafia then there has to be some other negative utility role left in the game for town... lovers or SK.

[Nolder]

Votecount

Err - Des (1) 

Darthe - Andrej (1)

Andrej - Goldeneyes, Darthe, Err, Tina, Nervositee, Xthrax (6)

 

With 9 players alive it takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline: Sunday 10PM PST

[nervositee]

Well, that was quick. Thats a hammer and a bonus-vote then :P 

[Luciena]

 

Luci and Tina, could we get some lists of reads from you?

 

I still haven´t re-read but from memory...

 

Theo defended Err and Vos. She thought AJ, X and Vos were town. She was suspicisous of Des, me and Darthe. Just going by this I think Err, Vos, AJ and X are suspects. I´m not sure if Theo is the type that defends her team mates or try to call them out. Since she is new I think she defended one or two and I think they are in that group. 

 

As I said in my last post I´m also suspicious of Luci. She has contributed very little. 

 

I understand that you don´t want to share the night info right away but it would be good with some help here. :)

 

I´m not interested in lynching Golden, Des or Darthe right now. 

 

Have I forgotten anyone?

 

Vote Luci

 

Luci also works 10 hour days, and since I don't play mafia on my phone because accidents might happen,( i.e editing when not allowed etc) I only get a limited time of when I can get access. I was also not being allowed to get into the site for a while, to even be able to read up, on what's going on. As well as missing one deadline because of the above stated problem.

 

However, Tina, you and Des are the ones that ping for me mostly.

 

You decide to point me out because:

1, I have not posted enough, may I please draw your attention that I only joined on day 2?

2, It took me a while to catch up and from what I read everyone was allover the place. Which I also stated.

3, Seems to me you took offence to me calling your posts flighty. I call it as I see it. You've been here since the beginning of the game and yet you seem to be floundering. 

[Luciena]

Well, that was quick. Thats a hammer and a bonus-vote then :P 

LOL