[Advanced] French Revolution Mafia - Day 3

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Official Vote Count:

 

Yates (2) - Hallia, des

Basel (1) - peace

Golden (1) - Pral

Thorum (2) - Yates, Basel

AJ (1) - Mish

Mish (2) - AJ, lily

Elf (1) - Thorum

 

Not Voting (5) - elf, wombat, GF, Ishy, golden

 

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

No Deadline yet.

[Thorum]

My vote is on elf.

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Elf and Wombat have been prodded.

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Oops, sorry! It's fixed now :).

[Yates]

I agree with you there Thorum. I normally get scum vibes from you but not so far this game. You can be town for now

What do you make of the conversation between me and Desp, Hallia? Engage!

[hazelkrs1]

Wombat's playing in this game? Totes forgot about that. Dude needs to get his behind in here.

 

I'll respond to Yates post later on, just stopping by real quick.

 

Right now I'd be WTL either Yates, AJ, or Mish. AJ's omgus on Mish was blech, but I still think that post from Mish could have been a snipe post. Also intrigued by Lily's last post- saying "I have to admit it, Mish is looking scummy" before voting her looks like it could be a reluctant bus vote.

[hazelkrs1]

 

I agree with you there Thorum. I normally get scum vibes from you but not so far this game. You can be town for now

What do you make of the conversation between me and Desp, Hallia? Engage!

Good luck getting Hallia to engage into anything seriously in mafia

 

On second thought, it might work coming from you. She seems to only ignore my pleas for moar gameplay from her.

 

[dapianoplay3r]

Official Vote Count:

Yates (2) - Hallia, des

Basel (1) - peace

Golden (1) - Pral

Thorum (2) - Yates, Basel

AJ (1) - Mish

Mish (2) - AJ, lily

Elf (1) - Thorum

Not Voting (5) - elf, wombat, GF, Ishy, golden

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Deadline:

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140107T09&p0=22&msg=Day+1

 

A deadline is now in effect

[Basel Gill]

 

I suppose I should clear up that I did get the bread and starving stuff in my PM, but AJ's post about starving came so soon after dinnertime that it reminded me more of what I'd just eaten for real. I'll check back in tonight.

 

I'm still feeling strongest about Thorum and Peace (in that order of stronger feel first.)

Lol that must've been a good dinner. Are these town or scum reads?

 

Scum reads. On a scale of 1-10, 10 being certain that someone is scum, I would call Thorum a 9 and Peace a 7.

 

Final thoughts before signing off for the weekend (yes, I had to work 13 hours straight today :( )

- Mish is unusually active.

- agreeing with other people is NOT a scumtell, however many times you`ve been told it is

- who`s elf and where is he/she???

 

See y`all Monday!

[John E. Kelley]

Final thoughts before signing off for the weekend (yes, I had to work 13 hours straight today :( )

- Mish is unusually active.

- agreeing with other people is NOT a scumtell, however many times you`ve been told it is

- who`s elf and where is he/she???

See y`all Monday!

Good luck.

 

I doubt you survive until then.

[hazelkrs1]

Ishy I feel you've been camping on the sidelines a bit. What are your thoughts?

[Basel Gill]

- who`s elf and where is he/she???

I think elf is elffern, going by the posts on the signup thread. No one I can recall hearing of before.

[John E. Kelley]

Ishy I feel you've been camping on the sidelines a bit. What are your thoughts?

I'll get them out tonight, work has sucked this week after the holidays.

[GoldeneyesND]

So, my general assessment is when people primarily post aggressively, they're do it subconsciously as a protective mechanism. Mish came out of the gate fairly aggressively and then became very sarcastic. I don't have a meta for her, but I've seen her make some good analysis posts and I think she's laying low. 

 

 It wasn't twenty pages, Thorum. And you'll need to grow a bit bigger skin if you wanna be modding. You don't even wanna know some of the things I've gotten told when I've been modding. I don't hold personal grudges for it.

 

Des, why are you frowning at our co-modess? 

 

Aggressive for the purpose of being aggressive, easily could have laughed the vote off. And I don't like out of game tension bleeding into games. Also, he would need to grow thicker skin just FYI. Larger skin would only increase the surface area with which he can be sensitive.

 

 

 

Apologies for my abscense; although I was not hungover yesterday, exhaustion from the last month came and kicked me in the ass and rendered me utterly useless. I gotta look over the last two pages again, as I've only skimmed them, but for now it feels more like town on town for me.

 

Which interactions specifically?

 

 

Oh gee, what had happened I wonder? The game was sooo big, I guess it's really hard to understand what I was talking about /sarcasm

 

The Peace/Des/Yates-debate, d'uh.

 

*nodnod* The 'it' is vague just a little

 

Look who's talking. Wanna come with some game thoughts yourself instead of just subtly poking at me?

 

 

*nodnod* The 'it' is vague just a little

 

This post gives me a town-vibe from Hallia btw.

 

 

 

Because her agreeing with my question of Mish tells me that her thoughts are in-line with mine, which is a good sign considering my alignment.

 

 

Lol. That is priceless. Linking yourself hard to Hallia, and why would you do that unless you know she is town? And the only way for you to know is... If you are mafia. So you are using her to make yourself look good. And potentially make her a target by linking you together so strongly if you get lynched before her. Scum.

 

Vote AJ

 

And @ Peace, Des, Yates... Meh I don't have the brain capacity to deal with the newer developments there. AJ is more obvious.

 

This is an omgus vote plain and simple. I found AJ's comment a little off-putting, but you can't possibly FOS or vote someone just for agreeing with someone else. If people didn't agree with each other's lines of thinking, no one would get lynched. 

 

 

 

Mish, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're voting Andrej because he thinks he isn't alone in his opinion on that post of yours?

 

No, I'm voting AJ because he on purpose links himself very strongly to Hallia. Wich I see way more mafia motivations for than town motivations.

 

And yes, AJ = Andrej.

 

 

His "very strong" linking is saying "this post gives me a town vibe?" That's weak. My opinion is that you were laying low and got aggro when your first couple comments drew people's attention.

 

vote Mish

[dapianoplay3r]

Elf is new

This would of been her 3rd game I believe

 

She is my mentee elsewhere but has disappeared there to

Wombat if also MIA if anyone has FB contact with him they have my permission to bump him

[GoldeneyesND]

Key- Pral has 2 posts in this game and neither were a vote for me.

[dapianoplay3r]

Official Vote Count:

Yates (2) - Hallia, des

Basel (1) - peace

Thorum (2) - Yates, Basel

AJ (1) - Mish

Mish (2) - AJ, lily

Elf (1) - Thorum

Not Voting (5) - elf, wombat, GF, Ishy, golden

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline:http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140107T09&p0=22&msg=Day+1[/b]

A deadline is now in effect

 

 

Fixed for the Pral vote (it was my fault and I have no idea where I got it from)

[Andrej]

I just wanna drill on this some more because I am bored and some people don't seem to be understanding what I was trying to express. Mish is totes scum.

 

 

 

Apologies for my abscense; although I was not hungover yesterday, exhaustion from the last month came and kicked me in the ass and rendered me utterly useless. I gotta look over the last two pages again, as I've only skimmed them, but for now it feels more like town on town for me.

 

Which interactions specifically?

 

 

Oh gee, what had happened I wonder? The game was sooo big, I guess it's really hard to understand what I was talking about /sarcasm

 

The Peace/Des/Yates-debate, d'uh.

 

 

 

*nodnod* The 'it' is vague just a little 

 

This post gives me a town-vibe from Hallia btw.

 

 

 

Because her agreeing with my question of Mish tells me that her thoughts are in-line with mine, which is a good sign considering my alignment.

 

 

Lol. That is priceless. Linking yourself hard to Hallia, and why would you do that unless you know she is town? And the only way for you to know is... If you are mafia. So you are using her to make yourself look good. And potentially make her a target by linking you together so strongly if you get lynched before her. Scum.

 

 

Vote AJ

 

 

And @ Peace, Des, Yates... Meh I don't have the brain capacity to deal with the newer developments there. AJ is more obvious.

 

 

First bold: Her immediate snarkiness and defensive tone after I asked a pretty simple question. Several other people were already picking up on the vagueness of this post. Who looked like Town on Town? Why do you think they both are Town? There were plenty of reactions from her post on page 2 until she wrote the above on page 5. Multiple players crossing paths and discussing things so her just saying 'the last few pages looks all like town on town' was strange and looks more like just a filler post to skate by with.

 

Second bold: This is by the far the worst explanation you could've given for trying to spin my town-read on Hallia at this point in the game. Basically, in order for you to be able to accuse me of being scum trying to buddy to Hallia, you would have to already know that she was town. Smellin' what I'm steppin' in? If you are town (which you aren't) you wouldn't automatically assume that I am scum and Hallia is town because I voiced a soft town-vibe on her in one post. You could've questioned me more on it, but instead you decided to try and pin me down as scum for it without any sort of coroner on record to use as solid evidence. The situation could be that I am town and Hallia is scum allowing me to buddy. Or we could both be scum and I'm doing some hide-in-plain-sight type play. Instead you assumed straight away that I am scum buddying a townie, which in turn indicates that you know Hallia's alignment.

 

 

 

Mish, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're voting Andrej because he thinks he isn't alone in his opinion on that post of yours?

 

No, I'm voting AJ because he on purpose links himself very strongly to Hallia. Wich I see way more mafia motivations for than town motivations.

 

And yes, AJ = Andrej.

 

 

So I purposefully linked myself by calling her town? Well... that's interesting. That must make all the players below that I've quoted mafia as well and trying to link with other townies.

 

Town reads so far.  AJ and Despo

 

Pretty sure Golden is town.

 

 

I'm getting a town read on AJ and Peace

 

With the recent posts from Peace, I'm more willing to believe he could be town

[Andrej]

 

 

I suppose I should clear up that I did get the bread and starving stuff in my PM, but AJ's post about starving came so soon after dinnertime that it reminded me more of what I'd just eaten for real. I'll check back in tonight.

 

I'm still feeling strongest about Thorum and Peace (in that order of stronger feel first.)

Lol that must've been a good dinner. Are these town or scum reads?

 

Scum reads. On a scale of 1-10, 10 being certain that someone is scum, I would call Thorum a 9 and Peace a 7.

 

 

Can you explain why? I don't know Thorum that well but his posts are logical and make sense to me. I'm also reading Peace as town.

[michellem]

Spoilered' my post that people are quoting, to make it more readable.
 

[spoiler/]

 

 

Apologies for my abscense; although I was not hungover yesterday, exhaustion from the last month came and kicked me in the ass and rendered me utterly useless. I gotta look over the last two pages again, as I've only skimmed them, but for now it feels more like town on town for me.

 
Which interactions specifically?

 

 
Oh gee, what had happened I wonder? The game was sooo big, I guess it's really hard to understand what I was talking about /sarcasm
 
The Peace/Des/Yates-debate, d'uh.
 

*nodnod* The 'it' is vague just a little

 
Look who's talking. Wanna come with some game thoughts yourself instead of just subtly poking at me?
 

 

*nodnod* The 'it' is vague just a little

 
This post gives me a town-vibe from Hallia btw.

 

 
 

Because her agreeing with my question of Mish tells me that her thoughts are in-line with mine, which is a good sign considering my alignment.

 
 
Lol. That is priceless. Linking yourself hard to Hallia, and why would you do that unless you know she is town? And the only way for you to know is... If you are mafia. So you are using her to make yourself look good. And potentially make her a target by linking you together so strongly if you get lynched before her. Scum.
 
 
Vote AJ
 
 
And @ Peace, Des, Yates... Meh I don't have the brain capacity to deal with the newer developments there. AJ is more obvious.

 

Ew. This is how you come back into the game, seriously?

I've got about 3 times the amount of posts you do and that's the one thing you try to spin on me? I explained previously how I got a town-read on her. Generally I find it good when I agree with players, it shows we are thinking alike and tells me we are coming from the same place. I wasn't the only one to pick up on your generalization post. Your sarcasm and defensive tone are bad too. There were plenty other interactions outside of the 3 amigos you named.

unvote vote Mish

The only thing 'obvious' is your apathy to actually participate. Your lack of comment on anything else tells me you simply skimmed the thread looking for something to vote on and have now latched onto that so you have a vote on the books.

Day 1 lynch right here people.

 

 
You were not only trying to post a town-read on Hallia, you were trying to tie her to you strongly by saying "Hallia is acting townish, and so am I since we agree".
 
Defensive? I had nothing to be defensive about. But sarcastic, yes. Because to me that was the biggest thing that had happened and to me it was plain that is what I was talking about. Maybe it wasn't but meh, care.
 
And wow, you accuse me of skimming. Funny, since I said in my original post that I already had skimmed the last few pages. Yes, it ws more a post to participate because I'd been gone, so I put out the only thought I'd managed to form since I'm in shit shape.
 
And I could have chosen a way easier vote than you if I just wanted a vote in the books...
 

I have to admit, Mish is looking scummy. I usually don't agree when people say she is, but it really does look like she's just trying to say something, anything, to look like she's in the game. I do that as confused town, so that might be it, but it feels like something more this time. 
 
Vote Mish

 
Jumping on the easy train I see, Lily. Hm. Giving yourself an out for when I flip town, too.
 

Final thoughts before signing off for the weekend (yes, I had to work 13 hours straight today :( )
- Mish is unusually active.
- agreeing with other people is NOT a scumtell, however many times you`ve been told it is
- who`s elf and where is he/she???

See y`all Monday!

 
Unusually active? Are we playing the same game?
 

1. So, my general assessment is when people primarily post aggressively, they're do it subconsciously as a protective mechanism. Mish came out of the gate fairly aggressively and then became very sarcastic. I don't have a meta for her, but I've seen her make some good analysis posts and I think she's laying low. 

 

 It wasn't twenty pages, Thorum. And you'll need to grow a bit bigger skin if you wanna be modding. You don't even wanna know some of the things I've gotten told when I've been modding. I don't hold personal grudges for it.
 
Des, why are you frowning at our co-modess? 

 
2. Aggressive for the purpose of being aggressive, easily could have laughed the vote off. And I don't like out of game tension bleeding into games. Also, he would need to grow thicker skin just FYI. Larger skin would only increase the surface area with which he can be sensitive.

 

 

Apologies for my abscense; although I was not hungover yesterday, exhaustion from the last month came and kicked me in the ass and rendered me utterly useless. I gotta look over the last two pages again, as I've only skimmed them, but for now it feels more like town on town for me.

 
Which interactions specifically?

 

 
Oh gee, what had happened I wonder? The game was sooo big, I guess it's really hard to understand what I was talking about /sarcasm
 
The Peace/Des/Yates-debate, d'uh.
 

*nodnod* The 'it' is vague just a little

 
Look who's talking. Wanna come with some game thoughts yourself instead of just subtly poking at me?
 

 

*nodnod* The 'it' is vague just a little

 
This post gives me a town-vibe from Hallia btw.

 

 
 

Because her agreeing with my question of Mish tells me that her thoughts are in-line with mine, which is a good sign considering my alignment.

 
 
Lol. That is priceless. Linking yourself hard to Hallia, and why would you do that unless you know she is town? And the only way for you to know is... If you are mafia. So you are using her to make yourself look good. And potentially make her a target by linking you together so strongly if you get lynched before her. Scum.
 
Vote AJ
 
And @ Peace, Des, Yates... Meh I don't have the brain capacity to deal with the newer developments there. AJ is more obvious.

 

 
3. This is an omgus vote plain and simple. I found AJ's comment a little off-putting, but you can't possibly FOS or vote someone just for agreeing with someone else. If people didn't agree with each other's lines of thinking, no one would get lynched. 
 

 

Mish, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're voting Andrej because he thinks he isn't alone in his opinion on that post of yours?

 
No, I'm voting AJ because he on purpose links himself very strongly to Hallia. Wich I see way more mafia motivations for than town motivations.
 
And yes, AJ = Andrej.

 

 
4. His "very strong" linking is saying "this post gives me a town vibe?" That's weak. My opinion is that you were laying low and got aggro when your first couple comments drew people's attention.
 
vote Mish

 

 
1: Oh man I'd love to see you explain that logic to Red or Ithi. Some people have a more aggresive playstyle than others. And I'm moody to top it off.
 
2: Not aggresive... exasperated. I truly didn't understand why he'd tow that into this game. Also, thanks for making sure everyone notices my less-than-perfect-English. Second languange and all that.

 

3. An OMGUS? AJ had prodded me once to make me clarify. Des prodded me about it too. An OMGUS is when someone accuse you of something, and then you go into a fit back. Like AJ did when I voted him now, kinda.

 

4. And how would it help me to "get aggro" when I'd already drawn attention? Also, do please read my post again. It wasn't the "this gives me a town vibe" where he was linking himself to Hallia. It was the second post where he said "Because her agreeing with my question of Mish tells me that her thoughts are in-line with mine, which is a good sign considering my alignment." He's using Hallia to make himself look town. That's a strong link.

 

Well at least you have an excuse considering you've never seen me as mafia... AJ on the other hand has, and should know how I play as mafia. And this aint it, and he knows it.

[michellem]

Ugh ninja'd. I'll tackle that now.

[hazelkrs1]

Aggressiveness for Mish is a nulltell. Trying to figure out how I feel about this counter train however.

[michellem]

 

I just wanna drill on this some more because I am bored and some people don't seem to be understanding what I was trying to express. Mish is totes scum.

First bold: Her immediate snarkiness and defensive tone after I asked a pretty simple question. Several other people were already picking up on the vagueness of this post. Who looked like Town on Town? Why do you think they both are Town? There were plenty of reactions from her post on page 2 until she wrote the above on page 5. Multiple players crossing paths and discussing things so her just saying 'the last few pages looks all like town on town' was strange and looks more like just a filler post to skate by with.

 

Already answered this in previous post.

 

Second bold: This is by the far the worst explanation you could've given for trying to spin my town-read on Hallia at this point in the game. Basically, in order for you to be able to accuse me of being scum trying to buddy to Hallia, you would have to already know that she was town. Smellin' what I'm steppin' in? If you are town (which you aren't) you wouldn't automatically assume that I am scum and Hallia is town because I voiced a soft town-vibe on her in one post. You could've questioned me more on it, but instead you decided to try and pin me down as scum for it without any sort of coroner on record to use as solid evidence. The situation could be that I am town and Hallia is scum allowing me to buddy. Or we could both be scum and I'm doing some hide-in-plain-sight type play. Instead you assumed straight away that I am scum buddying a townie, which in turn indicates that you know Hallia's alignment.

 

I don't know a thing about Hallia's alignement. But I know that you, if you were town, have no ideas about Hallias alignement either, and would be careful to tie yourself to her this strongly. Ad if you were both mafia, I don't think you would've linked yourself so strongly so early. Apparantly you have no problems doing that, so it seems to me you know her alignement and it aint the same as yours.. And the most obvious answer for how you know that, is that you are mafia. And lol, are you seriously saying that everyone who accuses someone of buddying someone else is mafia?

 

 

 

Mish, correct me if I'm wrong, but you're voting Andrej because he thinks he isn't alone in his opinion on that post of yours?

 

No, I'm voting AJ because he on purpose links himself very strongly to Hallia. Wich I see way more mafia motivations for than town motivations.

 

And yes, AJ = Andrej.

 

 

So I purposefully linked myself by calling her town? Well... that's interesting. That must make all the players below that I've quoted mafia as well and trying to link with other townies.

 

And here you go again trying to discredit what I was actually saying. It wasn't the first post about the town read... It was the second one with your explanation. Get it now? 

[hazelkrs1]

Countertrain as in not any of Basel, Yates, or Peace.

 

Worried this AJ/Mish thing could be trumped up to distract from earlier stuff.

[michellem]

The most intersting thing that's come out of this though, is def Lily's vote. Now that's a scummy vote. Scummy enough that I think I'll

 

Unvote vote Lily