[Advanced] Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy Mafia (Day 6 - Town Wins)

[Pralaya]

Since I was already suspicious of you/cloud and leaning town on verbal, yes, I disagree. 

[michellem]

You are of course free to do so.

[_CLOUD]

Lol that was seriously the last thing I expected that would have happen right now....

[_CLOUD]

The most important thing that I got from these last couple of pages is that Des is town. I'm almost completly certain about him. I will have to do a reread tomorrow to eveluate where everyone else stands right now because I really expected that Verbal would flip mafia.

[Leelou]

I need to go back through all the day, but if it was day right now I could go for Tina or salami.

[Darthe]

Imo I am good for Cloud, Leelou or Tina.  Also, Lenlo dropped off the face of the planet when i stopped bullying.  Not a good look for him at all.  Slip or no slip my spidey senses tingle when someone on my radar definitively attempts to back down from the Darthe.

[Niniel]

Okay. Didn´t think he would be town but now we have something to work with. 

[csarmi]

Not sure what now. Darthe, any reasoning?

Also in the news. Leelou is town.

[hazelkrs1]

Can't believe how badly Verbal misplayed that. Whelp, there's still info to be obtained at least.

[csarmi]

Puts the stalling of his D1 lynch into a very different light now doesn't it?

[hazelkrs1]

Definitiely. And makes the quick train on him today (or yesterday, w/e D2 you know what I mean) very interesting to look over as well.

[Andrej]

Hardly.

 

Pretty sure most of the same people were voting him both Days.

[hazelkrs1]

Hardly.

 

Pretty sure most of the same people were voting him both Days.

 

The fact that they'd hop back aboard so quick tho could be telling.

[hazelkrs1]

D1 Final Vote Count:

　

Tina(1): Ragnarok

Cloud(2): Verbal, Pralaya

Darthe(3): Leelou, Despo, Andrej

Verbal(6): Peace, Krak, Tina, Mish, Dap, Salami

　

8 to lynch.

 

 

Day 2 Final Vote Count

 

Cloud(1): Pralaya

Verbal(8): Tina, Cloud, Salami, Despo, Peace, Andrej, Krak, Mish

Salami(1): Leelou

 

8 to lynch.

 

 

##vote Verbal

 

 

RB could be both town and mafia. Darthe is still not playing like town. He refuse to answer questions or gives arrogant answers that doesn´t mean anything. Again - Darthe, why did you say that Verbal should have been lynched when you never voted? 

 

Pralaya´s vote on Cloud just before deadline was really weird. His reason was that Cloud put a serious vote on AJ for being serious but that wasn´t why Cloud voted AJ.

 

Leelou was acting very strange yesterday. First she says that she is willing to hammer Verb, then when she realise that he hasn´t enough votes she asks if we should vote Darthe instead. But afterwards she said that she was ready to hammer Verbal anyway. Why was it so important to hammer? If you were ready to lynch Verbal then just vote him. 

 

Verbal hasn´t done anything that has changed my mind about him. 

 

Rag left his vote on my the whole day even though it clearly wouldn´t lead anywhere. 

 

 

 

 

## Vote Verbal

 

 

 

 

##vote cloud

 

Same case as earlier. 

 

Basically, the only story in this game so far is Darthe/Verbal vs Cloud/Mish/Desp and others following who they feel is town. 

 

 

 

Ok, read the entire thread.

 

This post by Cloud stood out for me during the read. Too aggressive during the "joke vote" phase, especially for Cloud.

Getting on to the AJ train was convenient at best.

I think we have played in enough games together for you to know that I tend to be fairly aggressive at the start of a game. This is also one of the reasons why I get lynched so often on Day 1 :P I went into detail why I thought that AJ is scum, but now you make it look as if I just sheeped my vote onto his train without giving any kind of explanation for why I think so.

 

The main reason why I felt you to be aggressive was not because it was Day 1 but because it was right at the early part of the game where others were mainly joke-voting. I know that you are a bit aggressive but not at that early a game.

 

 

You mean the case that I have already debunked? It looks like the only reason you are voting for me right now is because Mish has been defending me, and because I have perhaps been a bit more serious than usual. How does this make me mafia again? Why are you voting for me while other people have been defending my play? You are also linking Darthe and Verbal together, and then do the same thing with me, Mish and Despo without even explaining why.

 

 

Darthe's claim does seem more likely now that Dap flipped a 1-shot Vig. I could still go for either Verbal or Pral.

 

 

## Vote Verbal

 

 

 

Have I ##Voted Verbal yet?  If not,  ##Vote Verbal.

 

 

Peace, can you give us some thoughts about the players? 

 

 

Totally agree with Des´s post.

 

 

 

 

Peace, can you give us some thoughts about the players? 

 

 

Totally agree with Des´s post.

 

Yeah..Verbal and Salami are scum. 

 

 

How does that work?

 

##vote Verb

 

 

 

I don't see how it would do him any good.  If I were him I'd just enjoy my Turkey day.

 

 

##Verbeiber

 

 

Well that's L-1. Might as well get this over with, I don't feel like we're gonna be able to move on before we get an answer here.

 

##Verb

 

 

 

Well that's L-1. Might as well get this over with, I don't feel like we're gonna be able to move on before we get an answer here.

 

##Verb

Where's the hurry?

 

 

 

It´s not a second too early. He should have been killed yesterday. 

 

So everyone that voted for Verb D1 voted for him D2 as well, with the exception of Dap who was NK'ed. Those that voted him yesterday but weren't voting him D1: Cloud, myself, and AJ. AJ and I were voting Darthe at the end of D1. Cloud looks like he wasn't voting anyone.

 

AJ doesn't give a reason for his vote on Verb (a couple of others don't as well, but they had already previously voted for him). CS votes Verb but then later comments on the speed of the hammer by Mish. Tina kinda overexplained her vote on Verb today considering that she had already voted for him the day before, and then later saying the speedlynch was good... doesn't really sit right with me.

 

All I got right now. I gotta review D1 again however to compare the votes on Verb then compared to yesterdays

[Andrej]

D1 Final Vote Count:

　

Tina(1): Ragnarok

Cloud(2): Verbal, Pralaya

Darthe(3): Leelou, Despo, Andrej

Verbal(6): Peace, Krak, Tina, Mish, Dap, Salami

　

8 to lynch.

 

Day 2 Final Vote Count

 

Cloud(1): Pralaya

Verbal(8): Tina, Cloud, Salami, Despo, Peace, Andrej, Krak, Mish

Salami(1): Leelou

 

8 to lynch.

 

5/8. I guess you could count Cloud as well since he pulled the vote then unvote stunt on D1.

 

Fwiw those on the wagons that I'm suspicious of are you and Mish.

 

Not very sure about Peace, he's playing pretty typical for his meta. Krak feels Town and I agree with you that I don't see the big deal with Csarmi. I think Tina has stepped up her play and is engaging more which is a good sign IMO.

 

Could go either way on Cloud. Not sure how I feel about Pral putting his vote there.

 

I already stated my suspicion of Mish. She has done some buddying on D1 and then her contradiction when agreeing with Peace that scum normally wouldn't be aggressive D1 after stating it was reason enough to keep her eye on me. Also pointed out earlier how her statement on Cloud's tells gives her room to change her stance on him later.

 

With you, I always sort of read you as scummy. You posts massive WoTs regardless of your alignment and it's more so up to us to determine if you're full of crap or not. I don't like how you continue to mash names together as potential mafia teams. I honestly don't see how Darthe, Leelou and I (or whoever else you put in that group) could all be mafia together. You linking me to Darthe early on for some back and forths is also a notable point.

[Andrej]

Ninja'd.

[hazelkrs1]

Welcome back to my scum list, AJ. What wifomy, fencesittingish analysis there. And nice try discrediting me.

[Andrej]

What WIFOM?

 

And if you call my uncertainty about players as fence sitting then have at it. We all know those which team knows people's alignments for sure Des. So keep pointing that ugly FOS around

[Andrej]

Additionally way to completely disregard any of my points and just simply call me scum for it.

 

A noose will look good around you.

[hazelkrs1]

You can try. I'd love to see you try, in fact.

 

Imma wait for day before I say my peace about your "vote analysis"

[Andrej]

Not concerned about the NK?

 

Interesting.

 

Have at it Des. Your buzzwords and WoTs don't intimidate me.

[hazelkrs1]

Big talk, coming from a guy from a city named after a whale's vagina

[Andrej]

 

Fwiw, I'm from Texas originally.

[hazelkrs1]

What part? I'm from San Antonio

[Andrej]

Weird.

 

Me too. My mom still lives there actually, near Converse.