[Basic] The Walking Dead Mafia - Game Over. Theo Wins!

[Andrej]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

[Andrej]

Vote Count 3.3

 

Dora (2): Mish, Despo

Err (1): Peace

 

Not voting: BFG, Dora, Goldeneyes, Err, Ishy

 

8 alive. 5 to lynch.

[John E. Kelley]

Happy Gobble Gobble day AJ.

[Nolder]

CaKaw!

[GoldeneyesND]

Top 3 Scum list

 

Err:

 

I keep wondering about Err.  Nothing he has said or done since I pointed out I suspected he was trying to lead a lynch on the GE before the reveal has changed my mind.  If fact, my thoughts on him are more solidified by him slipping up and saying he knows Theo is town.  Scum are the only ones that know town.  So, either Theo is town and Err is using her or Theo is scum and Err is defending a likely lynch target.  Considering we are Lylo, I can see either scenario being a useful scum ploy.

 

Theo:

 

I never thought about Shane being a GF until Despo brought it up.  Actually makes more sense than SK...since there have been no extra kills.  (Although that doesn't rule out holstering or DOC protects.)  But GF is a more logical set up...since it's very common here on DM.  Then again, AJ could have given her the Shane character just to throw off claims as an easy way to scum hunt. 

 

Ishy:  He keeps listing me on his scum list...yet has never provided a reason.   I usually see this kind of stuff early in a game...but we are in the meat of it now.  State your reasoning..or better yet, convince others to lynch me and PLEASE LET ISHY HAMMER.

 

VOTE ERR.

 

 

You know Despo threw you under the bus harder than Ishy did just now

[BFG]

 

 

 

Rereading now, it may will take me a while as I'm somewhat cross-eyed from work.

Still waiting....

Funny you should say that.

EAD

 

 

Still waiting

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

<<<

 

 

 

 

>>>

 

 

Oh, wait...

 

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

 

Happy Thanksgiving :)

[peacesells]

 

Top 3 Scum list

 

Err:

 

I keep wondering about Err.  Nothing he has said or done since I pointed out I suspected he was trying to lead a lynch on the GE before the reveal has changed my mind.  If fact, my thoughts on him are more solidified by him slipping up and saying he knows Theo is town.  Scum are the only ones that know town.  So, either Theo is town and Err is using her or Theo is scum and Err is defending a likely lynch target.  Considering we are Lylo, I can see either scenario being a useful scum ploy.

 

Theo:

 

I never thought about Shane being a GF until Despo brought it up.  Actually makes more sense than SK...since there have been no extra kills.  (Although that doesn't rule out holstering or DOC protects.)  But GF is a more logical set up...since it's very common here on DM.  Then again, AJ could have given her the Shane character just to throw off claims as an easy way to scum hunt. 

 

Ishy:  He keeps listing me on his scum list...yet has never provided a reason.   I usually see this kind of stuff early in a game...but we are in the meat of it now.  State your reasoning..or better yet, convince others to lynch me and PLEASE LET ISHY HAMMER.

 

VOTE ERR.

 

 

You know Despo threw you under the bus harder than Ishy did just now

 

 

The difference is that Despo has given his reasons (pro town move) and Ishy hasn't (pro scum move.)

 

Plus...Despo still can't read me.  Game after game he gets me wrong.

[peacesells]

 

 

 

Rereading now, it may will take me a while as I'm somewhat cross-eyed from work.

Still waiting....

Funny you should say that.

EAD

 

Is this how you celebrate T-day?  By E'ing AD?  What ever floats your boat man..I'm not gonna judge.

[John E. Kelley]

Keep spinning man, I laid out my case against you, Theo, and BFG last night. The derailing of Theo's lynch speaks for itself. You telegraphed it. If you didn't see it, that's on you.

[peacesells]

Classic...Ishy (the king of spam) accuses me of spamming.

 

I'm scum cause I voted Leelou...that's your case?

[John E. Kelley]

Where did I ever accuse you of spamming? Please feel free to show me a quote, not that you can.

[GoldeneyesND]

 

Look out for those withholding votes too long today, as they're prob scum waiting to see if a townie gets a vote on them so they can try and speedhammer.

 

 

I see no point in pushing a quick day other than to foment confusion. How is Day 3 any different from Day 1 in that respect? Day 1 you wanted a longer discussion, now you want people to be wary of those who don't vote quickly?

[BFG]

This is taking forever and I apologise in advance for the formatting, or lack thereof

 

Only at the end of Night 1 (RL intruded for a while), but this is what's standing out so far, focusing mostly on those still alive.

 

 

 

 

Des's first votes were for Lenlo & Dap for delaying/derailing the mafia hunt.  Yet after is prodding Leelou for voting inactives to get them posting. 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-3-mourning-comes/page-8?do=findComment&comment=3089767

 

Des's unvote still looks odd.  Now we know that Dap is Town it makes even less sense, Leelou picks up on something as well. http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-3-mourning-comes/page-9?do=findComment&comment=3089855

Leelou points out that people claim at L-2, which is when he unvoted, yet one of the reasons Des unvoted was to 'gain more information from Day 1.  I can't make sense of this from any angle.

 

It was actually Dap to notice that Goldens play was unusually good

 

Leelou doesn't buy it as a town Des

 

Peace introduces the possibility of a symp character

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-3-mourning-comes/page-10?do=findComment&comment=3090031

 

Dora's post prodding Des's claim http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-3-mourning-comes/page-10?do=findComment&comment=3090070

 

Nolder says that mafia will have been given fake characters

 

Nolder starts Peace train

 

oh and this,

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-3-mourning-comes/page-13?do=findComment&comment=3090606

Des says that he'd rather 'play a beautiful game' than rely on claims, as relying on claims is mafia for preschoolers' yet later this is one of the oft brought up reasons for voting Dora (although I need to check if it was Des that pushed this or not)

 

Errs strange post linking him & Mish

 

Des soft defends Mish http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-3-mourning-comes/page-14?do=findComment&comment=3090669

 

Mish has solid town feel on Des

 

Des's train builds.

 

Incidentally Des claimed at L-4, although Ishy later says it was L2 or L3.

 

Ishy starts the Lenlo train, although this is the one that eventually succeeded it seems late to start a train.  Mish follows, then me. 

 

Mish's list of reads - which is still contradictory http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-3-mourning-comes/page-16?do=findComment&comment=3090986

 

Ishy tells Peace to claim (4 hours to deadline) and L2.  Peace claims 'role' and T-Dog, resulting in Lenlos eventual hammer.

 

Mish says she won't vote Dap or Des.

 

 

Having been absent for a while Err reappears at Nightfall.

 

Nolder makes an interesting point that Peace waits till Lenlo train has built before switching votes from Dap, despite threatening to vote Des if needs be.

 

 

 

 

So in short Des is standing out for lots of reasons.  Err has also played an extremely odd game to the end of Night 1.  The voting at the end of the game is very interesting.

 

[peacesells]

Keep spinning man, I laid out my case against you, Theo, and BFG last night. The derailing of Theo's lynch speaks for itself. You telegraphed it. If you didn't see it, that's on you.

 

 

Where did I ever accuse you of spamming? Please feel free to show me a quote, not that you can.

 

Bah..I read spamming...instead of spinning.  My bad.  But your case is anorexic.

[Theodora]

I wish everone Happy Thanksgiving and if you don't celebrate it like me (Orthodox), non-Canadian-American), make sure you have something to be greatful about

[BFG]

 

can you really say the sentence that has been bolded was wrong? and was it wrong to ask y?

 

 

meant to reply earlier - it's bad because it draws attention to a 180 which may indicate the Cop.  If you think you've found the Cop you don't want to telegraph it to Mafia.

[michellem]

I still believe Des is on his town game. Look at all this desperation to get attention away from Dora and Err.

[michellem]

Also, the fact that BFG cased me last Day, and keeps prodding at me now, but never places a vote, is telling.

[peacesells]

 

 

can you really say the sentence that has been bolded was wrong? and was it wrong to ask y?

 

 

meant to reply earlier - it's bad because it draws attention to a 180 which may indicate the Cop.  If you think you've found the Cop you don't want to telegraph it to Mafia.

 

 

I think he found the cop and tried to get him lynched.

[GoldeneyesND]

Top scum reads are Mish and Des. Before you ask Mish- no I'm not going to explain

[BFG]

There's lots of voting on Day 2, but not as much that stands out to me

 

Peace 'sides' with Golden as Golden train's developing.

 

Err attempts to direct Town play - this is still ugh and I still agree with every word I wrote here http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-3-mourning-comes/page-26?do=findComment&comment=3092838.

 

Mish posts intent to vote golden (on reread I like this)

 

Peace introduces the wifom of a SK

 

Des suggests lynching Dora to test Peace - as an idea this still makes no sense to me, and also pushes the argument that Shane can't be ProTown despite believing that relying on claims is for preschool mafia. - I think on balance I agree with Nolder that claims won't find Mafia.

 

The 2 final trains that develop are on Dora & Leelou.

 

AJ stated that no hammer would result in random.

 

Leelou is lynched.

[michellem]

Top scum reads are Mish and Des. Before you ask Mish- no I'm not going to explain

 

Well that's stupid. You're supposed to explain what you find scummy in people; how else can the person explain or defend themselves?

[BFG]

 

 

And Theo, feel free to continue Fos'ing me over my Len vote, but I was 100% consistent in my voting pattern on Day one. I voted Dap to get him active. It worked. I voted Mish to get her active. It worked. I voted Len to get him active. He didn't, and decided to make one joke post, then disappear again. His lynch is on him, not me.

Just woke (I got home way after that post last night and was just too tired)

Ishy no matter my alignment voting me doesn't make me more active, I like to post in mafia, I like to be active. If I'm not posting or not around its due to RL and not lurking. Just FYI

Ok leelou, case coming soon

But the mafia are

Leelou

Ishy

BFG

Whether it was my vote that got you active or not is irrelevant. Once you became active, I removed the vote immediately.

 

And your read on me is way off base, as a matter of fact, I don't have scum read on anyone on your list.

 

 

 

Missed this earlier - Ishy actually waited a long time to unvote Dap (ie posted several times over a period of time after Dap had responded), he was much faster unvoting Mish and was not voting for a while before voting Lenlo

[Andrej]

Vote Count 3.4

 

Dora (2): Mish, Despo

Err (1): Peace

 

Not voting: BFG, Dora, Goldeneyes, Err, Ishy

 

8 alive. 5 to lynch.

[BFG]

For the moment my top reads are: Des, Peace, Err

 

I'm not getting Townie signals from anyone, so I'm wary of (and suspect) everyone, which isn't helping.

 

 

Mix of reasons.

 

I know I'm Town

 

I (strongly) believe Golden is Town - if he was mafia he'd have come in with a 'guilty' and we'd have mislynched by now and game over...

 

Dora - leaning Town.  She's been pushed too heavily by people, some of whom must be mafia.  At the moment there's no benefit in mafia pushing one of their own to gain street cred for later, one more mislynch and they don't need a later.

 

Mish - wary - I liked her play regarding Golden and response to my case Day 2.  Still wary, she seems very confident that Des is Town, but she was (confident he was town) in the Weasley game as well.  Still hasn't explained why she was ok with Des's early votes and not Nolders.

 

Ishy - wary - there's a couple of points when he defended Des Day 1, the voting around the Lenlo lynch, but nothing that stands out.

 

Err - I really don't like his play, but I'm putting some down to the difference between real life play and online play, but there are some that are hard to swallow, not understanding the lynch Day 1 (he seemed very upset that Golden placed a L1 vote - that close to deadline, somebody has to)

 

Peace - troublesome.  The voting around Lenlos lynch stands out and in my mind links Peace/Des/Ishy.  Also the fact that Nolder pointed some of this out and was NK, he pushed Peace & Des strongly as well.  Finally there's the lack of a NK after claiming a role, and introducing the possibility of a SK.

 

Des - strongest read - too many things that don't make sense.  Day 1 the unvote, may have been done to play to his meta (is the best reason I can come up with), but then the contradiction between voting Dap/Lenlo for delaying the game then prodding Mish for trying to start it, bunch of other stuff, that bizarre lynching Dora to test Peace...