[Basic] The Walking Dead Mafia - Game Over. Theo Wins!

[hazelkrs1]

Actually, screw that. I forgot about Peace's softclaim.

 

Unvote, Vote Peace.

 

Full claim or get fitted for a noose dude.

[hazelkrs1]

Btw Err, I meant to mention that the mafia team usually has a QT or something which they can communicate on at any time, not just in the night phase. With other sites it's sometimes different, but on DM daytalk for the mafia team is generally always allowed.

 

Of course, I'm not discounting the idea that you could have said that purposefully to try to seem ignorant, and as a rl mafia player you aren't quite as inexperienced as other newer players most likely, but recently you do seem to be trying to scumhunt, trying to figure things out.

 

Prob more stuff I meant to respond to, will be back in a sec after I catchup in other game.

[Theodora]

Will post properly later.

 

Dora you said you had one of the characters that Des had claimed would be mafia.  Can I ask if you're one of the Governor, Shane or Merle?

Yes, I am one of them and I am town. Am I allowed to say which one I am?

[hazelkrs1]

7. Character and role claims are allowed. Mass claims are not.

[Theodora]

But wouldn't that be a mass claim?

[Leelou]

unvote

 

 

 

Umm, I wouldn't exactly say I am coasting. I might not be as engaged in this game, as I should be but I am aware of what is going on in the game. I'll give reads on all living players in the morning, but here's a post count for ya. 

 

Err 44 Leelou 42 Ishmael Forsaken 41 dapianoplay3r 37 BFG 32 GoldeneyesND 32 peacesells 30 Despothera 29 Misheru Sedai 24 Theodora 19

 

 

I actually did a double take when i saw your post count. Then I went back and saw your "posts." The average length of which was a sentence or a short phrase.

 

Vote Leelou

 

I actually wasn't going to claim, because I read a couple of articles that say it's dumb, but I'm too annoyed at how easy a target I've become for scum, so I'll claim.

 

I'm Carl, the John Connor of the zombie apolcalypse.

 

Oh and I'm the Cop too, Dap is town. Enjoy your day. If there's a doctor in town, I'd appreciate your help not getting NK'd.

 

 

I hate to tell you, but don't expect overly long posts from me. I'm not very wordy. 

 

Whelp. At first I thought the claim was hogwash, but him viewing Dap as town could explain the backtracking. Not sure what could explain that he def seems to be being coached this game, or that he was prematurely linking people, but without a CC he's def not getting lynched today.

 

Vote Theo. I was also wondering about which character she apparently has that I named. If it's the Governor or Merle or Caesar, aint no way I'll believe she's town. If it's Shane.... eh we'll see. I just have had a bad feeling about her for a while this game, she had some early fluff posts that seemed to overplay that she was looking for scum, the overexplanation about her intuition, and trying to push the angle that zombies=mafia while ALSO apparently having a character of questionable alignment, all doesn't make her look very good

 

Could also vote Leelou too however, I already suspected her somewhat, and I think it was this game that she announced she was getting serious, which seemed strange for her (to announce it I mean). And I don't remember her fos'ing Golden yesterday, her bandwagon vote without explanation looks bad if she never did.

 

I def need to do a reread however, I might get a chance tonight or tomorrow.

 

I was being unnecessarily spammy in all games and not really focusing on anything. Just was trying to say that I was reigning it in. I don't always FoS everything I see. I didn't put a reason but it's because he seemed like he was heavily being coached for his first game ever. 

 

But wouldn't that be a mass claim?

 

No, mass claim would be if we all said our role/character right now to try to win the game that way. I really could vote for you right now. Your play has been odd and I can pull up specific quotes as to what when I wake up a bit more. 

[Theodora]

while waiting for Despo's answer:

 

Goldeneyes claim is quite strong

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE PEACE

[Babar Hasan Khan]

Btw Err, I meant to mention that the mafia team usually has a QT or something which they can communicate on at any time, not just in the night phase. With other sites it's sometimes different, but on DM daytalk for the mafia team is generally always allowed.

 

Of course, I'm not discounting the idea that you could have said that purposefully to try to seem ignorant, and as a rl mafia player you aren't quite as inexperienced as other newer players most likely, but recently you do seem to be trying to scumhunt, trying to figure things out.

 

Prob more stuff I meant to respond to, will be back in a sec after I catchup in other game.

ya i actually thought that mafias could only talk at the night time... otherwise they become more powerful for town to win

[Theodora]

I am Shane and vanilla

[dapianoplay3r]

Mafia

 

Leelou

Ishy

Peace

 

Town

Golden

Theo

Me

[Leelou]

Any reason why I'm the top of your scum list? 

[hazelkrs1]

while waiting for Despo's answer:

 

Goldeneyes claim is quite strong

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE PEACE

 

Answer to what? Leelou already answered you... nvm just saw your other post.

 

Shane, eh? Hmm. Of COURSE you claim the only character out of that group that could possibly be town.

[Theodora]

It is a true claim, Despo, otherwise I would have chosen a less controversial character or I would have never ever hinted that my character is among those, that you listed as possible mafia. Why to drag the attention on me?

[John E. Kelley]

Unvote.

[michellem]

Whatever, if I get lynched for people reading WAY too much into my posts, at least I've been active in this game. Don't see how else I could learn to play. Theo, Leelou, Ishy and BFG have been coasting through and no one is paying attention to them at all. Err, Ishy and Mish have pretty much only popped in specifically to dump on me after it became the cool thing to do. How about actually reviewing the NK and asking some questions to the inactives too, rather than pointing the FOS at me based on your gut feelings.

 

Bolded: Welcome to mafia, it's what the game is about, analyzing people's posts and looking for hidden meanings. You said you've read articles about how to play the game, you must have seen that, no reason to get all butthurt over people doing what they are supposed to.

Blue: I have been payting attention to BFG and Dora, and said so.

Green: No, I said last Day that I found you suspcious, and that I would vote you come day. But I choose to not place a vote when I saw how fast you were getting votes and instead putting on some pressure. Aren

 

 

I knew Nol was a good candidate to be killed by the mafia - he delivered very good posts and reads that could help town. I was almost sure he was the cop.

 

I am sorry for not being that active as I usually am but I think I've caught a cold as I have fever and my head hurts a lot.

 

For the fact I have been "all over the place", stated by Mish, actually I have been on two trains  and I still believe Peace should be lynched, together with his buddy Goldeneyes. Also, I can not be 100% sure about anyone at this stage, so changing my opinion is not something illegal. I changed it about Dap. I don't know why Ishy started that train on Len for inactivity (instead of lynching Peace) but I guess mobsters laughed a lot and jumped right on the opportunity to lynch town. 

 

And Goldeneyes, I am a newbie too and according to the rules I am reading, you have scum written on your forehead, so I have to do this:

 

Vote Goldeneyes

 

It is time a mobster is killed.

 

 

 

so the other 4 people who voted for Lenlo were Ishy, Mish, BFG, Leelou, Peace

 

i have to reread posts again

and out of these 5 two voted for Golden now.... Ishy, Leelou,

 

[michellem]

UGH I was not gonna post that, how did that post?! Ignore this for now, I'll finish it up.

[michellem]

Whatever, if I get lynched for people reading WAY too much into my posts, at least I've been active in this game. Don't see how else I could learn to play. Theo, Leelou, Ishy and BFG have been coasting through and no one is paying attention to them at all. Err, Ishy and Mish have pretty much only popped in specifically to dump on me after it became the cool thing to do. How about actually reviewing the NK and asking some questions to the inactives too, rather than pointing the FOS at me based on your gut feelings.

 

Bolded: Welcome to mafia, it's what the game is about, analyzing people's posts and looking for hidden meanings. You said you've read articles about how to play the game, you must have seen that, no reason to get all butthurt over people doing what they are supposed to.

Blue: I have been payting attention to BFG and Dora, and said so.

Green: No, I said last Day that I found you suspcious, and that I would vote you come day. But I choose to not place a vote when I saw how fast you were getting votes and instead putting on some pressure. Aren't you glad I did? If I'd put on a vote on you instead of just pressuring you with questions, you'd probably been lynched by now.

 

 

I knew Nol was a good candidate to be killed by the mafia - he delivered very good posts and reads that could help town. I was almost sure he was the cop.

 

I am sorry for not being that active as I usually am but I think I've caught a cold as I have fever and my head hurts a lot.

 

For the fact I have been "all over the place", stated by Mish, actually I have been on two trains  and I still believe Peace should be lynched, together with his buddy Goldeneyes. Also, I can not be 100% sure about anyone at this stage, so changing my opinion is not something illegal. I changed it about Dap. I don't know why Ishy started that train on Len for inactivity (instead of lynching Peace) but I guess mobsters laughed a lot and jumped right on the opportunity to lynch town. 

 

And Goldeneyes, I am a newbie too and according to the rules I am reading, you have scum written on your forehead, so I have to do this:

 

Vote Goldeneyes

 

It is time a mobster is killed.

 

Bolded: Really now? That's interesting. Is that why you chose to have him NK'ed?

Blue: Wich rules? Also, fair warning, over-use the newbie card and people will use it against you.

Green: So you think Ishy is town then?

 

 

 

so the other 4 people who voted for Lenlo were Ishy, Mish, BFG, Leelou, Peace

 

i have to reread posts again

and out of these 5 two voted for Golden now.... Ishy, Leelou,

 

Also, I posted intent to vote Gold, put that down on your list too.

 

 

 

I'm gonna review BFG and Dora specifically later today. Have some stuffs to do first.

[GoldeneyesND]

I am Shane and vanilla

 

Shane?! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

 

If she's actually Town, that was a mean move by AJ.

 

SHOW SPOILERS

Shane makes me way more likely to vote for her as you can say he was only really a positive influence on the group for one season. Glen and Maggie, our "lovers", don't become a real couple until season 3. They do fool around before Shane breaks bad halfway through season 2, but he's already a pretty crazy dude by then. He tries to betray and murder Rick, getting shot by Rick. Then turns into a zombie,  at which point Carl shot him. Are there traitorous roles in mafia? However, based on the inclusion of T-Dog as a character, I presume that AJ just did a general non time-specific view of the characters and decided "good", "bad."

 

 

It is a true claim, Despo, otherwise I would have chosen a less controversial character or I would have never ever hinted that my character is among those, that you listed as possible mafia. Why to drag the attention on me?

 

It's s bit of a WIFOM situation Theo. One could argue you slipped when you first made the confession and then chose to claim Shane because he is the one character discussed who COULD be town specifically so you could make the argument you just made.

[BFG]

@Dora, sorry I didn't respond earlier, I was at work and didn't have much time.  Thanks for telling, I think that's one theory shot down in flames, the other might still be right, but I don't think it will necessarily be useful.  Obv full claiming is always entirely your decision, as was choosing to say if it was one of the three

[peacesells]

Desp, I am T-dog.  I am a bomb.  Hence, the reason for the soft claim.  Cause, you know me...I don't soft claim.

 

I would peg Shane as a serial killer.

 

VOTE THEO

[peacesells]

UNVOTE VOTE THEO

[Andrej]

Vote Count 2.4

Peace (3) - Dap, Despo, Theodora

Leelou (1) - Goldeneyes

Theodora (1) - Peace

Err (1) - BFG

Not Voting: Mish, Err, Leelou, Ishy
10 alive, 6 to lynch.

Deadline: 10PM PST, Tuesday, Nov. 26 

[Andrej]

Good morning

[BFG]

Good evening

[BFG]

Err:

I’m finding Errs play to be all over the places, and think he’s definitely underplaying his knowledge (or at least his posts on setup seem to contradict each other).  On the one hand he appears to have knowledge of how to balance a game, the potential of roles that act as recruiters(?) or resurrections.  But then both asks about lovers and talks (briefly) about lovers theory.  Disappears for a couple of days then reappears just after the lynch and suddenly becomes active.  After voting Peace he then seems to tunnel on Golden, up until his reveal – his mafia targets are Dora & myself (with no reasoning) and then Peace (as Peace shows interest in lynching somebody other than Golden, despite saying he wants talk during Day 2) and myself (now on gut)

 

 

i agree that we shouldnt lynch and end the day without discussing what happened in the last 24 hours.... deadline is on tuesday... we shouuld make use of the time.... having that said i m not taking my vote off golden any time soon....

 

Golden has jumped on every one who had the highest vote at the time of posting the votes... there has been only one exception to this rule.... you!!! and now you coming to deflect votes from him... convinces me more you are the scum.... i mentioned i thought u were a scum (75%) at the end of the D1 post.... now its more of a 90%

 

and so that you do not accuse me later in the game for being L3, L2 or L1 vote....... i will vote for you next! 

 

 

(http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3092049)

 

(although I will say that when Golden revealed he didn't automatically vote for Peace after unvoting, so he is thinking things through)

 

So what sort of talk does he want?

Here he asks about special roles using examples of inspector/doctor http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3087778

 

Then wonders if there might be some reanimation/recruitment role which suggests some knowledge of advanced roles (fine so far – setup varies between groups) http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3088055

 

Votes no lynch because of it (potential reanimation) (itself strange, because Town need to lynch in order to win) http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3088056

 

Votes Peace to ‘hear them defend’ http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3088116 [on a side I find it interesting that Mish picks up on Dora voting Ishy using similar language, but seems to ignore this, (Dora did follow up on Ishy though) (http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3090986)]

 

Briefly joins off-topic conversation, then disappears for 2 days.

 

Town vibe off Nolder for his voting & unvoting.  Votes Goldeneyes for coming in late on trains http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3090592 makes a very strange post that sort of links him and Mish.

 

Says that Lenlo & Mish can’t afford to be neutral

 

Responds to Goldens ‘wonders who he’s protecting’ with a no one to protect by giving him an only vote, only has vote trains to go on.

 

Thinks Dap is more likely to be Towny because of the high vote train.

 

Thinks that if Golden is walker than so are Dora and myself

 

Implies that he’s been working at avoiding notice/conflicts by applying that reasoning to Mish http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3091471

 

Thinks Golden is mafia

 

END Day 1, Lenlo/Pral flip Town lovers, and suddenly becomes active.

 

Accuses Golden of jumping again to Des http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3091475 and then puts Lenlo at L-1 http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3091481 (I don’t understand why this last would be an issue – Town needs to lynch, this was 2 hours before deadline, and there weren’t enough people around to secure a lynch on anyone other than Peace or Lenlo, one of whom soft-claimed a role)

 

Implies some knowledge of game balance (2 teams of mafia would need the numbers reducing) http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3091478

 

Surprised that 2 people are dead http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3091485 and suggests 2 mafia teams again or vigilante roles.

 

‘Lovers theory makes sense now’ http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3091508, this implies that he has heard of lovers before so why did he need to ask about the 2 kills?

 

Blame on voters http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3091510 – and the people who weren’t around to secure a lynch?

 

Mafia list is now: Golden, Peace, BFG

 

Nighttime talk

 

Start Day 2:

 

Votes Golden http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3091993

 

Tells everyone else to stop at L1 or L2 to talk – just ugh http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3092000

 

Says that Golden should address the Town with justifications http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3092006 (but doesn’t say what the justifications needed are)

 

A couple of strange posts http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3092037 says that his reason was based off voting pattern, but if there’s a chance he’s townie would like to hear it.  And http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3092040 ‘its not L3’ um yes it is.  L-3 says that 3 votes are needed to lynch him that’s it.  That’s what that vote did.  Would have been the first if he’d checked the post earlier…

 

Says he will vote Peace next http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3092049

 

Says that mafia only have nighttime chat http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3092057

 

Might unvote to prevent a short day

 

Unvotes http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/86079-basic-the-walking-dead-mafia-day-2/?view=findpost&p=3092192

 

Has to reread and will (presumably) be looking at Ishy, Mish, myself, Leelou & Peace

 

for now

vote Err