[Advanced] Vacation Mafia! Day 7

[Hallia]

I have missed having you in games Red!  I aspire to be as good a player as you.  Your thoughts are clear and(even when aimed at me) well thought out.

 

My inital vote on Peace just seems more and more well-founded the more I read his posts.

[Red2111]

aw :)

 

 

your claim was still scummy though *nods*

[Lenlo]

I have missed having you in games Red! I aspire to be as good a player as you. Your thoughts are clear and(even when aimed at me) well thought out.

 

My inital vote on Peace just seems more and more well-founded the more I read his posts.

Reds thoughts arnt clear at all. She's taking things out of context and purposely being difficult to mislead people, such as with her talk about Mishes meaning of night.

 

Red to you I have not been manipulative, I have been very blunt and straight forward about what I want. I'd say more but I'm on a phone and typing is hard

[Red2111]

Lenny ofcourse you haven't been manipulative to me ... yet ....   you've only had one post towards me and I've been silent with RL up until this point.

[Andrej]

I know mafias eager to get me out, my reasoning - roles were given after triggers, I was the first to post an image, a common trigger. I have a role.

 

 

And a roll as well, mmm lunch (and before anyone says it - a PR, I know everyone has a role)

 

 

unvote Hallia

 

vote Tress

 

Probably too soon for that Hally, but hey.

 

 

 

I added a vote to someone I was interested in pursuing because a valid point had been made against them. There is a difference

 

That's not what you said at the time, convenient to say now though.

 

 

As to your claim: Firstly, wow, premature. Secondly, there's no gurantee for that to be a trigger, or for it to be a pro-town trigger. None of us had alignements at all to start off with, so triggers also decided who would be mafia. Very, very thin explanation there.

 

 

 

 

 

It came across as pretty intentional on his part to further your purpose from how I read it.

 

Nope, check it.

 

 

 

Vote Darthe

 

Still likin the Avi

 

Heh your mask is much classier.  But you play DkS don't you?

 

Leno, because I am scum and this is clearly not a kickstart

 

So, how many here think that darthe may want to pull off the "I can claim I'm scum and get away with it" play?  I think it is well within his meta to try to pull a stunt like that just for fun. 

 

 

 

I'm not going to get into the WIFOM games about it. IMHO I think it'd be best to just have someone shoot you so we don't waste the lynch if things get out of hand.

 

I like Mish's point about Hallia calling out Krak for being lazy and then just jumping on a train.  I didn't like Hallia's explanation though. 

 

 

 

I always expect crazy gambits from Darthe.

 

Always.

 

Methinks we will find out soon enough if this is true.

 

 

Sounds joke-y, but if you always expect a crazy gambit why not give it more thought than just we'll see?

 

Furthermore, not really feeling the phrase "soon enough"?  If you think he's mafia, shouldn't you be voting him right now?

 

Happy with my vote, atm.

 

Solid post.

 

Also, Mish you doubt her claim?

 

 

@Red - You should check these time stamps. Hallia immediately reaffirmed that she had a PR instead of just any role after her soft claim. I was also the first person to question Mish on her disbelief. I don't really see how me asking her a single question was targeting her. You should probably check your facts before you start flinging big FOS all over the place.

[peacesells]

Red failed a ton on her two posts. Like more than in the history of DM mafia.

[Red2111]

don't be hatin peace-train.  you know you want this *winks*

[Lenlo]

Lenny ofcourse you haven't been manipulative to me ... yet .... you've only had one post towards me and I've been silent with RL up until this point.

You've misunderstood me once again it seems. I meant I haven't been manipulative in this game a all. Least not on purpose.

[John E. Kelley]

Red failed a ton on her two posts. Like more than in the history of DM mafia.

Almost as big a failure as your whole "ZOMG!! Haliia's claim can't possibly be true because this is a BASIC game, she must be mafia!!"

[Andrej]

Official Vote Count

 

 

Peace (1): Hally

Tress (6): Key, BG, Darthe, Yates, AJ, Ishy

Red (1): Aemon

Hally (6): Krak, Despo, Mish, Tress, Peace, Leno

 

Not Voting (4): Pral, RTE, Red, NotBob

 

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday Evening 9:30pm MST http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131018T2130&p0=197&msg=Day+1&csz=1

 

Last official VC.

 

UNVOTE

 

VOT HALLIA

 

Unvote

 

vote Lenlo.

 

Unvote

 

Vote: Mish

 

Unvote. Vote Jay Lenlo.

 

Unvote: Vote Lenlo

 

Unvote vote Tress

 

unvote

 

UNVOTE

 

Unvote

 

Voting Lenlo

 

 

unvote

 

vote: Lenny

 

 

 

 

Extremely Un-Official Vote Count

 

Lenlo (5): Despo, Ishy, BG, Tress, Red

Peace (1): Hally

Tress (4): Key, Darthe, AJ, Lenlo

Hally (2): Krak, Peace

Mish (1): Yates

 

Not Voting (5): Pral, RTE, NotBob, Mish, Aemon

 

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday Evening 9:30pm MST http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20131018T2130&p0=197&msg=Day+1&csz=1

 

Did I miss anyone?

[Andrej]

 

Those quotes came out weird.

[hazelkrs1]

Hehe, nice to see Red back. Aint no one quite like her

 

She seems town to me btw. I also liked a couple of points she made on AJ; I hadn't thought about this before, but him asking if Mish didn't believe Hallia's "claim" (this was before she said she was doc) could easily have been fishing as well. And yeah, unvoting that quickly after a soft claim after bandwagoning in the first place.... Looks really bad. Add him to the list of scummies for me.

 

Scum:

 

Lenlo, Mish, Tress, AJ

 

As for Tress, I think it was Key who made this point, but if work keeps you from being able to post much, why were you able to be so spam my N0? Then when game turns to serious talk, suddenly you're too busy? Hrmmm. Also, I can see not being able to post lengthy comments, but why not more of those minimalist type submissions?

 

I'll respond to Mish's stuff later, but real quick gotta grab a couple of stinkers

[aemonkristen]

As I may have mentioned before, I can't get to a pc until tomorrow to do a reread so I have to go from memory here. We have two trains that are possible to achieve majority on (Lenlo and Tress). Of the two of them, I have more misgivings about Lenlo than Tress. I know it's weak to vote like this, but there's nothing I can do about it now. This weekend I will be able to do a reread and a serious examination of people.

 

VOTE LENLO

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

I'm a specific night doc. Not saying which.

Still refusing a full claim, but ill take this for now. I dont think im alone though when I say were probably going to need more cause right now you can only be CCed by a full Doc if there is one and if your lying then we have no way to tell.

 

Unvote vote Tress

 

Were on time right now and shes the next highest train if I remember right.

Oh. My. Lord. Something just, something smells awful. Would someone please open a window? No I don't need any seasick tablets, I need fresh air!

 

*ralphes*

 

Dude. Town would essentially have NO reason to know more details about Hallia's claim/role. Scum in the meantime, would LERVE to know what nights she can't protect herself. How scummy can you get?

 

Also, way to bandwagon onto Tress, even after hardcore defending her as town earlier. Holy cow das scummeh.

 

Please lynch Lenlo everyone.

[hazelkrs1]

Ok I'm heading to bed, I had no idea what the VC is, I really don't feel like digging through putting it together myself, so you guys will have to make do without my vote for this lynch.

This was the other stinker. So first of all, you don't have to have a vc sitting in front of you to have an idea for who others may have voted on. There were already several votes on Lenlo and Tress, that had been there for a bit. Why not comment on them.

 

Second, you give up on even trying to help secure a lynch, even tho if I'm not mistaken there was still like 12 hoursish before the deadline, so you could vote when you woke up.

 

Last and most importantly, since when is a VC necessary to place a vote? If you aren't sure who's close to deadline, why not at least vote for who you think is scummiest, to at least get your vote on record?

 

There is no excuse for this Mish.

[Andrej]

unvote; vote Lenlo

 

Doesn't look like there's any other place to go with just over 2 hours until DL.

 

Des, your list of scum is extremely counter intuitive. Why would you put both Lenlo and Tress down on the same team when they are voting each other? And please, don't give me some long winded explanation about how they are trying to distance.

 

 

 

Extremely Un-Official Vote Count

 

Lenlo (7): Despo, Ishy, BG, Tress, Red, Aemon, AJ

Peace (1): Hally
Tress (3): Key, Darthe, Lenlo
Hally (2): Krak, Peace

Mish (1): Yates

 

Not Voting (4): Pral, RTE, NotBob, Mish

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.
Deadline: Friday Evening 9:30pm MST http://www.timeandda...msg=Day 1&csz=1

[John E. Kelley]

If they were both scum, and the two largest trains at DL, of course they would distance from one another. I distance from my scummates in my opening post whenever I'm scum. That's Mafia 101. Just ask Dap.

[hazelkrs1]

As for the thing Ishy said about people attacking Hallia for her play:

 

Ishy, I've told her this before, I have no problem with her activity level. I understand RL gets in the way and you post when you can. I normally can only post at night, for instance.

 

My problem isn't that she doesn't post enough, its that every game the majority of her posts are fluff, either spam or fence sitting or just idle commentary. She hardly ever actually takes a stand on an issue, on someone's alignment, etc. When she does, its usually at the pressure of others. I have no problem with her personally at all, I just wish that since she plays in so many games that she tried involving herself more directly in the game, instead of constantly trying to camp on the sidelines.

 

If I'm a jerk for wishing that, then well... Oh who are we kidding everyone knows I'm a jerk anyways!

 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Looks like Lenlo.

 

Vote Lenlo

[Andrej]

Extremely Un-Official Vote Count

 

Lenlo (8): Despo, Ishy, BG, Tress, Red, Aemon, AJ, Not Bob

Peace (1): Hally
Tress (3): Key, Darthe, Lenlo
Hally (2): Krak, Peace

Mish (1): Yates

 

Not Voting (3): Pral, RTE, Mish

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.
Deadline: Friday Evening 9:30pm MST http://www.timeandda...msg=Day 1&csz=1

 

I should totally get a free NA for this btw

 

Kaylee I can haz gun?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

As for the thing Ishy said about people attacking Hallia for her play:

 

Ishy, I've told her this before, I have no problem with her activity level. I understand RL gets in the way and you post when you can. I normally can only post at night, for instance.

 

My problem isn't that she doesn't post enough, its that every game the majority of her posts are fluff, either spam or fence sitting or just idle commentary. She hardly ever actually takes a stand on an issue, on someone's alignment, etc. When she does, its usually at the pressure of others. I have no problem with her personally at all, I just wish that since she plays in so many games that she tried involving herself more directly in the game, instead of constantly trying to camp on the sidelines.

 

If I'm a jerk for wishing that, then well... Oh who are we kidding everyone knows I'm a jerk anyways!

 

 

Reading this discussion on Hallia's activity level and/or posting style hurts my head.  The only response players have is their vote.  The rest is just noise.

 

My two cents.

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

I'm a specific night doc. Not saying which.

Still refusing a full claim, but ill take this for now. I dont think im alone though when I say were probably going to need more cause right now you can only be CCed by a full Doc if there is one and if your lying then we have no way to tell.

 

Unvote vote Tress

 

Were on time right now and shes the next highest train if I remember right.

Oh. My. Lord. Something just, something smells awful. Would someone please open a window? No I don't need any seasick tablets, I need fresh air!

 

*ralphes*

 

Dude. Town would essentially have NO reason to know more details about Hallia's claim/role. Scum in the meantime, would LERVE to know what nights she can't protect herself. How scummy can you get?

 

Also, way to bandwagon onto Tress, even after hardcore defending her as town earlier. Holy cow das scummeh.

 

Please lynch Lenlo everyone.

Town has no reason to soft claim in such a way, scum do though. Your also ignoring the fact that the moment she claimed a legitimate role I unforeseen and stopped pressing her on the issue for now, but acknowledging that would make this case difficult for you huh?

 

Finally I never defended tress, I attacked people with stupid reasons for voting her.

 

After I flip town take a hard look at Ishy, BG and Des.

[hazelkrs1]

Aemon, I'll respond in a bit at work

 

NB, I felt compelled to respond since Ishy's comments seemed to be directed at me somewhat

[John E. Kelley]

Don't worry bro, I'm sure Kay will allow you to keep posting in the QT after you're dead.

[John E. Kelley]

Aemon, I'll respond in a bit at work

NB, I felt compelled to respond since Ishy's comments seemed to be directed at me somewhat

Not at you in particular, I've seen it come up in multiple games, by multiple players. Didn't mean to imply I was singling anyone out.