[Advanced] X-Men: Rise of Apocalypse - GAME OVER

[Darthe]

unvote ill wait for the CC before pushing this more. For the future, "you know I'm bad at D1" is not a defense.

[csarmi]

Innocent results are still more likely to be town as scum. But the usual problem with revealing innocent reads is other - scum would get good targets.

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Lily (2) - Wombat, Des

Darthe (2) - Aemon, Lily

Krak (1) - Mish

 

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline 18 hours, 42 minutes

[Krakalakachkn]

Okay. I guess it's time to reveal. I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but y'all seem intent on lynching your cop. I don't know how much use I am, or how much it would hurt to kill me, being that I only get "appears as" results, but there ya go. 

 

 

I only have town results at this point. Do you want them or not? I'll wait until several of you have chimed in.

 

 

You have multiple results?  You managed to get you action and an answer before day 3 dawned ahead of its time?  

[Darthe]

Innocent results are still more likely to be town as scum.

How do you know this?

[LilyElizabeth]

 

Okay. I guess it's time to reveal. I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but y'all seem intent on lynching your cop. I don't know how much use I am, or how much it would hurt to kill me, being that I only get "appears as" results, but there ya go. 

 

 

I only have town results at this point. Do you want them or not? I'll wait until several of you have chimed in.

 

 

You have multiple results?  You managed to get you action and an answer before day 3 dawned ahead of its time?  

 

I did.

[LilyElizabeth]

And, Darthe, I don't give a crap if it's a defense in your eyes or not. It's the truth. 

[Darthe]

That's a bit better reaction.

[Nynaeve]

 

Innocent results are still more likely to be town as scum.

How do you know this?

 

 

He doesn't. He's just talking out of his ass as usual...

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[michellem]

Krak, that's ALL you have to say when you finally come back?

[csarmi]

 

Innocent results are still more likely to be town as scum.

Simple statistics. Just because there're gfs in a game, innocent views don't become useless, just less rwliavlw.

How do you know this?

[csarmi]

Quote fail.

[csarmi]

If you got an innocent view in a game without gfs, that person becomes 100% town.

 

Unless there are too many gfs, being viewed town is still makes someone more likely to be town the usual, just not 100%. We don't have ghr numbers obviously.

[csarmi]

*the numbers

[csarmi]

 

 

Well, we might be able to trust guilty results as our millers should have claimed already.

>.>

 

 

 

Nyn

Do you disagree?

[Darthe]

What if all mafia are viewed as town salami? What if all of them appear to be mafia and none do? You either have inside information or are assuming. Statistical accuracy should never allow for absolute statements.

[Nynaeve]

I was going to do a bit Lily casing of my own but considering her claim I cased Krak.

 

As you all prolly know, he's been fairly inactive so there wasn't much to case.

 

 

He posts on day 1 checking in. Then he spends some time ragging on Verbal... but hey, who wouldn't? :D  Then he makes a 'vote Lenlo' post without giving any reason. Two hours later he asks if Leelou can be lynched. Later he throws a good word for Nolder, saying he's playing as he usually does. He then supports Nolder when he argues berf's vote on him (Nolder), simply because he's for lynching Verbal and berf isn't. THEN he jumps in to defend Nolder again Despo, who claimed that Nolder was trying to distract town with the whole notion of lynching Verbal. Later on he makes some jokes.

 

He criticizes Despo again about the whole lovers deal despo fessed about and his long thread of responses to people's reactions to his stance, including points about krak himself. Krak tells him he's slipping. He makes this this comment:

 

 

 

 

I think Itchy's point makes sense. If De is willing to sacrifice, then shooting him is just as effective as shooting Mish (as you said). However, if he is scum and lying, the you're wrong and shooting Des is the better option. That way, we don't lose a potential innocent AND scum (Des). However, I wouldn't put it past Verb to have lovers that were both town in a bastard game.

And before Des completely overstates his own "brilliance" and accuses me of brushing off his arguments, let me say that I'll address his points about me (and probably others) when I'm not at work and on this blasted phone. Off the top of my head though, I'll say this: sowing wifom? God you're thick. I couldn't sow any more wifom surrounding Nolder's role than Verb did by not including his alignment. All I did was wiki info on the name we had, Polaris, and share it. If you think that's sowing wifom then I'd be happy to email you a list of universities in your area that have mediocre to decent Agriculture departments so that you may discover a proper definition of sowing. Hell, you might even learn a little about reaping too.

 

 

A bit of an overreaction response wise, mayhaps? >.>

 

He shows up a day later an announces that he's going on a trip for two days and won't be around. He shows up 4 days later asking, a bit randomly, if it was dice that stated that he'd be viewed as scum. Today he tells Mish he would have liked her to be more ballsy and vote Verbal instead of second guessing herself. And lastly he questions Lily if she managed to get a viewing in the night that RTE cut short, to which she replies yes.

 

 

 

Nyn

 

 

 

 

 

[Nynaeve]

 

 

Well, we might be able to trust guilty results as our millers should have claimed already.

>.>

 

 

 

Nyn

Do you disagree?

 

 

Heh. Well, I'm not one to volunteer information... but since it's a direct question.... then yes, I disagree. I was also told that my alignment is town but that I would appear as mafia. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if there are mafia members running around that would appear as town. So right now I'm trusting viewing as far as I can throw them... which isn't far at all.

 

 

 

Nyn

 

 

[Darthe]

^WTL

[LilyElizabeth]

I'm going to take off for a while. I agree that sharing my results won't do any good, by the way. 

 

 

I don't buy that you wouldn't view me already if you were cop.

 

 

This made me lol for real. Ego much?

[Darthe]

Its not ego, you've been at me since literally the beginning of the game, call me scummy at every opportunity without backing any of it up (before it even could be), and have pushed for my lynch each and every day start.

 

If you were cop uou woild have viewed me.

[Nynaeve]

I'm going to take off for a while. I agree that sharing my results won't do any good, by the way. 

 

 

Yes, especially if you're lying :P

 

 

 

 

Nyn

[LilyElizabeth]

I've been doing it Kivam's way. Lynch from the bottom, view from the top. At least I think that's how he put it. Anyway, I've been viewing those that seem most town to me, and trying to lynch those who seem scummy. 

 

Its not ego, you've been at me since literally the beginning of the game, call me scummy at every opportunity without backing any of it up (before it even could be), and have pushed for my lynch each and every day start.

If you were cop uou woild have viewed me.

 

This is not entirely true, Darthe. I was saying that you may not be scum, because I always see you as scummy originally. If you're going to accuse someone, at least get it right. 

 

At any rate, lynch me if y'all want to. I don't see how I'm any use, anyway. 

[Darthe]

I am okay with all of that post except the AtE at the end.

[aemonkristen]

There are a lot of people that haven't chimed in on this. If I remember correctly, deadline is in about 17.5-18.5 hours. That's through the night where I am. My main licks right now are Darthe (for previously stated reason), Mish (because of the "confusion" posts and the Verb fixation), and Krak because he seems to pop in, make some comments that are in no way helpful (most of them aren't even related to whats going on), and then disappear.

 

I am good with lynching Darthe or Krak today. The lovers WIFOM with Mish is a can of worms we should probably leave for another day.