(BASIC): The Perfect Pizza Town wins

[Tiinker]

Will read up on the Des/Berf banter tonight. Have some work to finish off

[Kaylee]

I am leaning town on Des since recent posts that I've read.

 

My comment to Kronos: I may have fence sat, but at least I commented. He came in, made a comment on something that had happened before, yet nothing on the recent. It stood out to me since there had been some discussions going on.

[Hallia]

Berf claimed anchovy?  Doesn't that just reek of evil?

[Basel Gill]

Vote count:

 

Berf (5): Krak, Kronos, Des, Mish, Tress

Mish (1): Berf

Kronos (1): Tiink

Tiink (1): Hally

Des (1): Darthe

Panchi (1): Peace

 

Not voting (3): Panchi, Kaylee, Cindy

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Tues. Jul. 23rd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130723T21&p0=422

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

screw it, panchis around and not posting here.

 

get yourself replaced or start posting, please?

 

vote Panchi

[Basel Gill]

Vote count:

 

Berf (5): Krak, Kronos, Des, Mish, Tress

Mish (1): Berf

Kronos (1): Tiink

Tiink (1): Hally

Des (1): Darthe

Panchi (2): Peace, Cindy

 

Not voting (2): Panchi, Kaylee

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Tues. Jul. 23rd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeandda...30723T21&p0=422

[Darthe]

it's fence sitting to give thoughts I'm asked for, not jump on sleazy or easy trains, and not be ready to vote until I'm ready to, without letting myself get pressured into into it? ok.

 

it's poor form to point out something I see as obvious (they didn't post on night 0 = might be triggers --> one of those who didn't vote appears to go off raging at the theorizer for pointing out her VTness and getting her killed early derail which ended most other game discussion) without slapping up a wall of quotes pretty much designed to make ppl blind and dumb? ok.

 

it's scummy to fos ppl without voting them? no, it's not, I'm not sure how the rest of that is seen in the DM mafia kingdom, but foses get pointed without votes all the time. I don't play but I do read. and I don't play well, or happily, so deal with it, it's the best I can do.

 

I'll vote when I'm ready to vote and it'll be when I'm well caffeinated, here, focused, and sober.

 

small window of opportunity, I'll grant you, but it'll happen.

 

and I won't be browbeaten into it.

 

oh, you didn't get from my thoughts and fosing who I think may be scum?

 

you can read what I already wrote to figure out why, I'll be damned if I'm posting a page of quotes and BS spin to bury the game.

 

des, moderate scum read, explained it as well as I can (and yeah, @ tress, of everyone playing I know des best, and I'm going with gut there on his emo vs smug personae, and no, I don't have the same gut feeling on berf, but I don't get a scum read on him no matter who else does, I did get the feeling, from what he typed, and how he typed it, post after post after post or what seemed like unplanned emo meltdown and then defense, that he wasn't posting a planned well thought out calculated wall or walls of text, but was upset and flustered)

 

tress, you went out of your way to get me riled, trying not to confuse that with a scum tell cause I know it isn't, I think your defense of des was odd, and the only thing keeping me from calling that a scum read is apparently ppl who know you both seem to get where you're coming from. or cause I'm not sure of anything, and anyone who pretends to be is full of it and using false bravado, or has reason to know for sure. or that's how it's being spun to cover a teammate. I don't know. I'd call it a slight scum read.

 

berf, see above, slight town read.

 

darthe, you're sneaky, manipulative and suspiciously nice this game. that should worry me. the fact that I agree with a lot of what you've said ahold worry me more. y'all happier if instead of saying I'm not sure I say null tell? you like those words better? means the same thing but whatever, null tell.

 

mish, for that VT rage which was either flawed logic (no, I don't need to explain that further, I don't believe anyone reading the thread could fail to see it) or a hard push to get your VTness cemented in ppls minds, or a push to keep the heat where you wanted it, more than slight scum read

 

peace, got no time to use words, vote flipping with the winds, lazy distracted read

 

kronos, depressed not into it read

 

kaylee, more noncommittal than me but get the feeling she's using her words carefully, kerping her opinions to herself. doesn't give any specifics, doesnt attach her own sentiments to her responses, says thats what he said, or something like it, that's the point he was making. UN translator for Scotland type stuff. null read.

 

krak, no input, or I missed it. no read studying for some test read.

 

tiink, not much to say, what he says makes sense but seems willing to give the benefit of the doubt or is more subtle than me in fosing, null read

 

hally, very little today and every word sweet. null read.

 

panchi - srsly don't like the policy lynch once of, and numbers this low it would be real dumb to lynch someone based on one post and a standard disappearing act. no read at all except do you need a replacement or would running you up get you to post?

 

that's all I got, rip it apart, I'm getting my coffee.

 

good morning.

 

Again, passive aggressive statements that don't say much aren't going to get you any favors.  

 

I find it amazing that you can post this about panchi and have legitimate scum reads but then choose to vote panchi over Des or anyone else you have a negative read on. 

Also, all but three people being null does not equal reads even if you think you can summate their play in a half sentence each.  I don't mind it for a few (btw Basel, prods and replacements?) but this list is rediculously easy for mafia to fake.

[Basel Gill]

Panchi has until the end of day phase to step it up or be replaced. One post in the whole game by this point is not nearly enough.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

 

it's fence sitting to give thoughts I'm asked for, not jump on sleazy or easy trains, and not be ready to vote until I'm ready to, without letting myself get pressured into into it? ok.

it's poor form to point out something I see as obvious (they didn't post on night 0 = might be triggers --> one of those who didn't vote appears to go off raging at the theorizer for pointing out her VTness and getting her killed early derail which ended most other game discussion) without slapping up a wall of quotes pretty much designed to make ppl blind and dumb? ok.

it's scummy to fos ppl without voting them? no, it's not, I'm not sure how the rest of that is seen in the DM mafia kingdom, but foses get pointed without votes all the time. I don't play but I do read. and I don't play well, or happily, so deal with it, it's the best I can do.

I'll vote when I'm ready to vote and it'll be when I'm well caffeinated, here, focused, and sober.

small window of opportunity, I'll grant you, but it'll happen.

and I won't be browbeaten into it.

oh, you didn't get from my thoughts and fosing who I think may be scum?

you can read what I already wrote to figure out why, I'll be damned if I'm posting a page of quotes and BS spin to bury the game.

des, moderate scum read, explained it as well as I can (and yeah, @ tress, of everyone playing I know des best, and I'm going with gut there on his emo vs smug personae, and no, I don't have the same gut feeling on berf, but I don't get a scum read on him no matter who else does, I did get the feeling, from what he typed, and how he typed it, post after post after post or what seemed like unplanned emo meltdown and then defense, that he wasn't posting a planned well thought out calculated wall or walls of text, but was upset and flustered)

tress, you went out of your way to get me riled, trying not to confuse that with a scum tell cause I know it isn't, I think your defense of des was odd, and the only thing keeping me from calling that a scum read is apparently ppl who know you both seem to get where you're coming from. or cause I'm not sure of anything, and anyone who pretends to be is full of it and using false bravado, or has reason to know for sure. or that's how it's being spun to cover a teammate. I don't know. I'd call it a slight scum read.

berf, see above, slight town read.

darthe, you're sneaky, manipulative and suspiciously nice this game. that should worry me. the fact that I agree with a lot of what you've said ahold worry me more. y'all happier if instead of saying I'm not sure I say null tell? you like those words better? means the same thing but whatever, null tell.

mish, for that VT rage which was either flawed logic (no, I don't need to explain that further, I don't believe anyone reading the thread could fail to see it) or a hard push to get your VTness cemented in ppls minds, or a push to keep the heat where you wanted it, more than slight scum read

peace, got no time to use words, vote flipping with the winds, lazy distracted read

kronos, depressed not into it read

kaylee, more noncommittal than me but get the feeling she's using her words carefully, kerping her opinions to herself. doesn't give any specifics, doesnt attach her own sentiments to her responses, says thats what he said, or something like it, that's the point he was making. UN translator for Scotland type stuff. null read.

krak, no input, or I missed it. no read studying for some test read.

tiink, not much to say, what he says makes sense but seems willing to give the benefit of the doubt or is more subtle than me in fosing, null read

hally, very little today and every word sweet. null read.

panchi - srsly don't like the policy lynch once of, and numbers this low it would be real dumb to lynch someone based on one post and a standard disappearing act. no read at all except do you need a replacement or would running you up get you to post?

that's all I got, rip it apart, I'm getting my coffee.

good morning.

 

 

Again, passive aggressive statements that don't say much aren't going to get you any favors.  

 

I find it amazing that you can post this about panchi and have legitimate scum reads but then choose to vote panchi over Des or anyone else you have a negative read on. 

Also, all but three people being null does not equal reads even if you think you can summate their play in a half sentence each.  I don't mind it for a few (btw Basel, prods and replacements?) but this list is rediculously easy for mafia to fake.

I'll vote who I want when I want but feel free to direct me as you choose.

[Darthe]

Aye Aye Cap'n

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

and I'm not gonna fake an opinion for you.

 

I don't frakking know, and I don't know how you do.

 

amazing, I know.

 

I'll change my vote if and when I want to.

 

push me harder or shoot me, I don't need to be annoyed right now, thanks.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

and it was four that didn't read null to me and how much scum you figure in a game this size?

 

and I'm out for the night if I have an ounce of sense.

[hazelkrs1]

Gonna have to catch up in here later, ran out of wife patience credits

[Kaylee]

Some good points were brought up about MIsh. Trying to seem confirmed VT? possiby. Adding some pressure there could prove useful.

 

 Vote Mish

[michellem]

"Could prove useful". That's waffle. Seems like a reason for a vote, but isn't a reason at all. Exactly how would it be useful?  And exactly wich points were good about me? More specific reasons plz. That just looks like a bogus mafia reason to start a train.

[berf]

Not this "Who started the train" business again

[Kaylee]

Mish: I gave reasons. I said for pushing the VT vetted angle. I also said I was voting to add pressure.

[michellem]

And what do you wanna acheive with that pressure?

[Kaylee]

As always to see what it yields: reactions.

[Basel Gill]

Vote count:

 

Berf (5): Krak, Kronos, Des, Mish, Tress

Mish (2): Berf, Kaylee

Kronos (1): Tiink

Tiink (1): Hally

Des (1): Darthe

Panchi (2): Peace, Cindy

 

Not voting (1): Panchi

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Tues. Jul. 23rd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeandda...30723T21&p0=422

[Darthe]

I would rather see death.  Reaction voting is generally pointless once you call it reaction posting.  It enforces the idea that your vote is not meant to achieve a lynch and thus simultaneously distances from the lynch.

[berf]

So with exception to Krak, all the peeps voting me are those who have been FOS'd-toward themselves.

 

Interesting.

[Kaylee]

An attempt to discredit everyone on your train. Interesting.

[Kaylee]

I would rather see death. Reaction voting is generally pointless once you call it reaction posting. It enforces the idea that your vote is not meant to achieve a lynch and thus simultaneously distances from the lynch.

Are you referring to the train on Berf you said you don't agree with?

[berf]

Kaylee I'm already clearly not thinking Desp and Mish are worthy of credit anyway. Plus Krono and Tress had early pressure and have since dropped off. Not exactly shining paragon's of Town-ness, not that this is anywhere near an accusation at this stage.

 

My statement is bringing attention to the fact that of those who have sustained pressure on Day 1, 100% of them are on my train. This has set my mind into motion, and it might do others.