(BASIC): The Perfect Pizza Town wins

[peacesells]

UNVOTE VOTE BERFARONI

[michellem]

That was a deilightfully scummy post Berf. I'll cut you some slack since you apparantly hasn't played with Des when he's in tip top shape, but still. That was pretty awful.

 

Oh and:

 

 

By the way, the only two people who DIDN'T post before the Triggers were all met were Krak and Mish. Kronos even left Mish off his initial read-list too. 

 

That is all.

 

 

The game started 4.30 my time at night, and the triggers ended at around noon, wich is the time I get up (I have sleep troubles). I don't get why you feel it was prudent to point that out though.

[michellem]

Forgot:

 

unvote vote Berf

[berf]

Whelp, looks like I'm done for.

[berf]

Ok - I freely admit I didn't catch the vote by Darthe. I saw the part I bolded and got to sticking a gif in because I thought it was funny. I didn't even think Des was scum at the time as I said. Or I think I said. Either way, it was a joke courtesy of the earlier threads as I said, much like in the recent game we played where I self voted for innactivity based on the game before that.

 

Anyone sensing a pattern here?

 

Moving on.

 

The triggers thing - I initially checked trying to find out if Basel would activate the game with only one person left yet to check in, thinking that could be a good person to keep an eye on. As it stands, the game was started with TWO, Krak and Mish. My point was not that they were mafia, but quite the opposite - with triggers activated and they yet to contribute, I don't think the mod would assign a role based on that demographic seeing as they are not unique. And if all roles are based on things posted as is likely, this can rule out Mish and Krak as being mafia or any sort of town role.

 

I also think some people who would be interesting to look at are certain post count numbers and such, but haven't had a look because I think Despo is mafia and went with that.

 

As to despo's post as a whole - fair enough I guess. let me check for questions.

 

Ok it's big and my eyes are glazing. In a nutshell Tress was the nice target to move a vote to because of Darthe's suspicion, Darthe being true to town meta according to some who have posted. Then when I catch heat, you vote me. All I am saying is that these are good times to put a vote on these two people.

 

I also think the self sacrifice thing is just gross. And the whole "They guilt tripped me into playing" is also a bit erm what for me.

 

I think you are mafia. I think I made a pretty good case and you are wall of texting me out, which will probably work because hey who am I compared to despo in the chain of things at DM mafia, but my case is built on lots of little things all coming together to give me an opinion of you, which I stated.

 

Maybe not well, but stated all the same. And another very clever move I've done is completely miss your comments regarding those I said. That doesn't help. 

 

 

 

I think I'm three to lynch.  I am Anchovies. I also put that out there knowing it won't help my case one lick Vanilla town. That sounds much more palatable.

[berf]

The contradiction with Krak and Kaylee:

 

With Krak, you think it's the mafia sideline prodding. IE - The mafia leaving a blatant scum tell

With Kaylee's fence sitting, it's so blatantly mafia that it can't be mafia - Town leaving blatant scum tell

 

When you think about Krak, you don't seem to be considering that if he was mafia, he would be wary about making such an antagonistic post.

With Kaylee, if she was mafia, she would be thinking about her posts and wouldn't make such an antagonistic post and is therefore town. 

 

Yes?

 

 

And Mish just calling me scummy and saying "what a post" doth not a mafia make me. Reasons?

[berf]

And Despo this isn' personal. This is me joking about based on outside events, and then it just so happened that I found you to be the most scummy.

 

This isn't a 'hard on' for targeting you at all. I'd prefer you town so you'd go bother someone else. I'd prefer you off my damn case because I don't like responding to giant-ass walls of text. 

 

And with the threads I put in my 2c and left. I can't really contribute much more. My playstyle is mine, I joke around, I don't take things too serious if I don't have to. That will include being a sarcastic and dry jerk at times. But stonewalling someone is again just a playstyle. *shrug* Lighten up. All I got to say. And if you say you normally are? Then

[michellem]

Your post felt forced and your arguments felt made-up to me. It felt like you had to go trough it because you had put yourself in a situation with Des and couldn't get out of it. Mostly because the way you try to represent things doesn't add up with my view of how things happened and views od Des' actions doesn't match up at all; I felt like you were trying way too hard to push and angle on himt hat would make us suspect him. Add that to the pit at the end with the triggers and me and Krak, wich I still don't see the point of bringing up (unless you are rolefishing, wich is not cool) then it makes for a post that I def feels warrants a vote.

[berf]

I really don't see, how after clearly explaining why I mentioned the triggers, my looking into it and mentioning is role fishing or mafia. I'm trying to figure out who might be mafia, and presented my findings.

 

As for the rest, I can't argue that, is your opinion. So we'll see how you look when I flip town.

[michellem]

You really still think it was a good idea to point out very clearly that it's very likely both me and Krak are vanilla? How is that good for town to have out in the open so early? That is something that I preferred to WIFOM to death.

[berf]

I'm kinda forced to talk about what I did and didn't say here Mish...

[michellem]

What does that mean? I'm trying to ask you why you felt it as good for town to point it out in the first place. You didn't have to. There was no reason whatsoever to do so, at least with the reasons you've provided. Please explain to me exactly how you think it was a pro-town idea to point out in the first place the thing about the triggers.

[berf]

I was looking for mafia, and presented my findings? 

 

I'm asking people to look for those who they think might have roles. It's not about who is VT, it's about who might not be. I didn't start banging on about it until I was pressed. If you didn't want attention drawn to it, why push me on it?

[berf]

And by roles, I mean mafia roles. It just so happens that those same triggers also may contain town power roles. That doesn't mean I'm going to ignore a potential avenue for finding mafia, and encourage others to do the same.

[michellem]

And you just conviently forgot that the point of having vanillas is to hide the town PRs? That you just made the mafia's job of finding PRs possibly quite a bit easier?

[berf]

So let's just not look at anything then because of incidental information?

 

I'm trying to check who may have set off triggers, because that is how mafia was assigned this game, like every role yes, but I'm focusing on mafia. I'm looking for people who may have set off those triggers, and what tells they may give, much like everyone else in this game more than likely. It is only natural to maybe check on who has posted when in regards to the triggers. It's an avenue of investigation. I'm copping heat because I happen to be the one who brings it up, when it was always going to come up.

 

If two vanilla towns are confirmed, then that is two nights of NK's not hitting town roles. Forget that?

[michellem]

Oh yeah, thanks for getting me killed of early, really nice of you.

[Basel Gill]

Vote count:

 

Berf (5): Krak, Kronos, Des, Peace, Mish

Des (1): Berf

Kronos (2): Tiink, Darthe

Tiink (1): Hally

 

Not voting (4): Panchi, Tress, Kaylee, Cindy

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Tues. Jul. 23rd at 9 PM EST.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130723T21&p0=422

[Darthe]

Berf is a pitiable lynch for the day.

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

i haven't played with berf... is he normally this emo and reactive, or was that all mockery until mish started pressuring him?  

 

i'm thinking back on that game i played with des where he did nearly the same thing.  i was convinced he was mafia, he was getting lynched and getting smacked around pretty good, and he stopped defending himself and just lay down and died, very emo, very sad.  and i knew when he did that he was town, he has a particular emo when he's really emo that i don't think he can fake.  it was a while ago, maybe he's learned to since then. 

 

either way, i haven't felt that genuine emo from des here.  confident and logical.  not the des i know.

 

kinda feeling it from berf, tho.  who i don't know much at all.

[Tiinker]

And you just conviently forgot that the point of having vanillas is to hide the town PRs? That you just made the mafia's job of finding PRs possibly quite a bit easier?

 

Think about this for a sec. If this was what he as doing, then why the F wouldn't he just post it in the mafia QT? 

[Mrs. Cindy Gill]

so you think that was a lapse in logic, tiink, and not a push?

[Krakalakachkn]

Well I don't like how Berf seems to be linking Mish and I, but if he ends up town, I definitely appreciate the defense, buddy.

 

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And you just conviently forgot that the point of having vanillas is to hide the town PRs? That you just made the mafia's job of finding PRs possibly quite a bit easier?

 

 

Think about this for a sec. If this was what he as doing, then why the F wouldn't he just post it in the mafia QT?

That's a valid point

[michellem]

 

And you just conviently forgot that the point of having vanillas is to hide the town PRs? That you just made the mafia's job of finding PRs possibly quite a bit easier?

 

Think about this for a sec. If this was what he as doing, then why the F wouldn't he just post it in the mafia QT? 

 

 

To earn som townie cred by making it seem like he's being helpful?

[Hallia]

At the risk of someone calling him out?