August 9, 2013: CONCLUDED

lolguy26 · July 18, 2013

.......

And you should all unvote me now.

you keep on repeating this but you dont give us any good reason tbh

Don't I?

They're lynching town instead of playing the game. Going on a crazy and useless hunt that has already costed town a lot in one of the threads.

Should be enough reason to unvote, start playing and start voting people.

see if we unvote and start voting others

there'll be a constant cloud of wifom surrounding you, which will be annoying the further we the game progress, what part of that didnt you understand?

Leelou · July 18, 2013

Tell me that sort of information is worth the cost of:

- lynching a town PR + 2 vanilla towns (over the threads)

- half the players not even taking stance

- not having competing towns

- too much globalization all over the place

Enough with the globalization. You are the one that started it and keep mentioning it.

csarmi · July 18, 2013

Leelou, as I'm not bright enough to see this, please help me out.

Exactly what sort of information will we have when I flip town in all games?

Are you mocking me or seriously asking?

I'm quite serious. Please make sure to tell us what we will have gained in global and what we will have gained locally, in this game.

In exchange, I'm happy to try and spend some time on this thread. Ask me some questions, etc.

peacesells · July 18, 2013

Aren't you busy working?

BTW..in the last game I modded you were scum and claimed the busy angle too.

csarmi · July 18, 2013

Oh..people aren't playing yet? How'd you get lynched in T2?

Well, I can't really comment much on T2 as I'm dead there and I'm not supposed to.

But do you seriously believe that fixating on one train D1 with half the players not even voting at all, then doing a crazy hammer 64h before deadline is "playing"?

csarmi · July 18, 2013

Aren't you busy working?

BTW..in the last game I modded you were scum and claimed the busy angle too.

Yes. And I was busy as hell too.

peacesells · July 18, 2013

Oh..people aren't playing yet? How'd you get lynched in T2?

Well, I can't really comment much on T2 as I'm dead there and I'm not supposed to.

But do you seriously believe that fixating on one train D1 with half the players not even voting at all, then doing a crazy hammer 64h before deadline is "playing"?

My answer is.......

YES.

csarmi · July 18, 2013

Aren't you busy working?

BTW..in the last game I modded you were scum and claimed the busy angle too.

I mean, I didn't claim the busy angle because I was scum, I claimed the busy angle because I was busy. And you, as the mod, should know that quite well, as you got to watch the maffia QT and the game threads as well. So what's your point here?

Tiinker · July 18, 2013

Meltdown alert. Dude's pulling a me.

lollzzz, this is why I can appreciate you Des.

Thanks

Hey, why you take my name off that quote in your siggy btw?

*sad*

I didn't. Think site bugged out or something.

Leelou · July 18, 2013

Leelou, as I'm not bright enough to see this, please help me out.

Exactly what sort of information will we have when I flip town in all games?

Are you mocking me or seriously asking?

I'm quite serious. Please make sure to tell us what we will have gained in global and what we will have gained locally, in this game.

In exchange, I'm happy to try and spend some time on this thread. Ask me some questions, etc.

Again, the global thing: That was all YOU!!! You are the one that cross meta'd all three threads by c/ping and starting bandwagons. Until then, and you did this very early, people were treating the threads differently. You brought the focus on yourself in 3 threads and made it GLOBAL. The info we will get is from how people have reacted to your trains. If you haven't noticed, some people are acting very differently in regards to your trains on different threads and having your alignment will help assess their behaviors.

csarmi · July 18, 2013

Oh..people aren't playing yet? How'd you get lynched in T2?

Well, I can't really comment much on T2 as I'm dead there and I'm not supposed to.

But do you seriously believe that fixating on one train D1 with half the players not even voting at all, then doing a crazy hammer 64h before deadline is "playing"?

My answer is.......

YES.

Next question: and does it seem like a play for you that's useful for town? A play that will get you guys information when I flipped town everywhere?

Tiinker · July 18, 2013

.......

And you should all unvote me now.

you keep on repeating this but you dont give us any good reason tbh

Don't I?

They're lynching town instead of playing the game. Going on a crazy and useless hunt that has already costed town a lot in one of the threads.

Should be enough reason to unvote, start playing and start voting people.

see if we unvote and start voting others

there'll be a constant cloud of wifom surrounding you, which will be annoying the further we the game progress, what part of that didnt you understand?

Hahahhaa.. So any time someone gets close to a lynch it's go time? The constant WIFOM cloud you have here is imaginary. I hate this reasoning. It's like you haven't even read what's been going on but are trying to think of a clever way to insert an input without really believing it. -> :flamingsword:

Vote Chuck

To all those - Boo Tinker didn't vote Csarmi, what a scumbag. He's L-2 and said he'd self hammer at L-1.

csarmi · July 18, 2013

Leelou, as I'm not bright enough to see this, please help me out.

Exactly what sort of information will we have when I flip town in all games?

Are you mocking me or seriously asking?

I'm quite serious. Please make sure to tell us what we will have gained in global and what we will have gained locally, in this game.

In exchange, I'm happy to try and spend some time on this thread. Ask me some questions, etc.

Again, the global thing: That was all YOU!!! You are the one that cross meta'd all three threads by c/ping and starting bandwagons. Until then, and you did this very early, people were treating the threads differently. You brought the focus on yourself in 3 threads and made it GLOBAL. The info we will get is from how people have reacted to your trains. If you haven't noticed, some people are acting very differently in regards to your trains on different threads and having your alignment will help assess their behaviors.

Leelou, yes, I did link all the threads (intentionally). I'm quite sure that if I didn't, someone else would have. Mainly cause I thought it would help us.

I also did bring the focus on me with that and that's fine - but that focus should have been moved by now, or at least the horizons widened - by a lot more.

I'm only one player. I can't do that alone.

As for having my alignment helping - you know just as well as I do that you can gain very low amount of info from a D1 townie lynch, especially if there are no competing trains. I do not blame you for not having some. But we should.

csarmi · July 18, 2013

@Peace. Yea I'M busy, but I'm trying to participate a little. The work I'm doing right now is particularly boring (basically I'm comparing two huge excel tables, page by page and look for differences), so I'm taking some time off every now and then.

csarmi · July 18, 2013

Tiinker, I don't get why you're voting Chuckles, but I like that motion.

Despo, I'll be watching you!

vote Chuckles

hazelkrs1 · July 18, 2013

Alright, all caught up here.

First off, I believe Csarmi's claim here and don't see the reasoning behind lynching him in all three threads day 1.

I did notice that Leelou seems to be sheeping Verbal in this thread. Is there a reason for this that I am perhaps unaware of? Is verbal known as a good player on this site? I'm going to read through the other threads and see if I can put this together.

@Leelou: did you not believe Csarmi's claim?

vote: Leelou

Metawise, both Serra and Yates seem like their town selves here. I'm glad.

First off, wrong thread to call me out for sheeping, I'm not in any but I could see it in a different thread where I actually ask Verbal who we should vote. BTW I pretty much start every game out like this with Verbal. Where I normally play mafia, they are a bit more jokey and we evolve into seriousness through Day 1. For me, this game picked up too seriously too quickly.

Just an opening post.

*sits on a desk, cross legged waiting for other people to visit this thread*

hi

The next few series of posts are jokes from the other site a few of us play on, Verbal and Nol included.

Let's make this quick, I've got a nap to take.

Vote Verbal

We'll speak of this tomorrow. ;-)

We could preemptively start that up...

pew pew pew

This vote was for bandwagoning:

vote Yates

I was already on board with lynching salami, so I voted.

unvote, vote salami

My explanation for voting salami is in these next two posts

Lotta quiet sheeping going on. Would appreciate a little more input from those of you who are just jumping on the Csarmi train.

I voted him first. In the other thread.

Hard to keep track of such things...

And the threads are only ~5 pages each at most.

Inter thread play is going to get complicated quick.

I suggest it be dropped by tomorrow unless there's a good reason for it or we're going to all get way too twisted.

I voted him first for bandwagoning, and then I think he was posting on the three threads at that time.

To your question:

@Leelou: did you not believe Csarmi's claim?

At this point, he's claimed VT, we wouldn't be losing a PR, there is still the possibility he's a lying scum, and the salami lynches across all three threads will give us a lot of actual info from Day 1. He's the one that bridged the games together, posting exactly the same in a way that seemed to try to mask a meta. I was all for playing the threads as separate games (I started off voting people who were quick to bandwagon). I'd much rather get his lynches out of the way, see which way he flips and then analyze each thread on their own and see about picking out scum from there. As it is, without an actual alignment from him it's hard to judge why people are acting the way they are in each thread. Lynching anyone else without an actual strong read would be a waste of a day because we will lose all the reactions from this train.

Secondly, Leelou, sheep Verbal? Nah, never happen.

Seems like a bit much in response to one comment about you sheeping. I didn't think you were sheeping incidentally, or at least not Verbal. If anyone, a good bit of us are sheeping Nolder. I could say you were buddying Verbal, but I wouldn't because I know yall have a close friendship. You could've just as easily pointed this out to 'ol dude.

.......

And you should all unvote me now.

you keep on repeating this but you dont give us any good reason tbh

Don't I?

They're lynching town instead of playing the game. Going on a crazy and useless hunt that has already costed town a lot in one of the threads.

Should be enough reason to unvote, start playing and start voting people.

Yeah cause a 1-time BPV that has already claimed is SOOOO useful to town. The PR to top all other PR's

:rolleyes:

lolguy26 · July 18, 2013

.......

And you should all unvote me now.

you keep on repeating this but you dont give us any good reason tbh

Don't I?

They're lynching town instead of playing the game. Going on a crazy and useless hunt that has already costed town a lot in one of the threads.

Should be enough reason to unvote, start playing and start voting people.

see if we unvote and start voting others

there'll be a constant cloud of wifom surrounding you, which will be annoying the further we the game progress, what part of that didnt you understand?

Hahahhaa.. So any time someone gets close to a lynch it's go time? The constant WIFOM cloud you have here is imaginary. I hate this reasoning. It's like you haven't even read what's been going on but are trying to think of a clever way to insert an input without really believing it. ->

Vote Chuck

To all those - Boo Tinker didn't vote Csarmi, what a scumbag. He's L-2 and said he'd self hammer at L-1.

@green: wtf are you talking about, when did i even say anything close to that?!

@blue: :rolleyes: , keeping salami alive, wont cause any wifom at all

Tiinker · July 18, 2013

.......

And you should all unvote me now.

you keep on repeating this but you dont give us any good reason tbh

Don't I?

They're lynching town instead of playing the game. Going on a crazy and useless hunt that has already costed town a lot in one of the threads.

Should be enough reason to unvote, start playing and start voting people.

see if we unvote and start voting others

there'll be a constant cloud of wifom surrounding you, which will be annoying the further we the game progress, what part of that didnt you understand?

Hahahhaa.. So any time someone gets close to a lynch it's go time? The constant WIFOM cloud you have here is imaginary. I hate this reasoning. It's like you haven't even read what's been going on but are trying to think of a clever way to insert an input without really believing it. ->

Vote Chuck

To all those - Boo Tinker didn't vote Csarmi, what a scumbag. He's L-2 and said he'd self hammer at L-1.

@green: wtf are you talking about, when did i even say anything close to that?!

@blue: , keeping salami alive, wont cause any wifom at all

Why do you want to get rid of Csarmi? Because he's close to lynch now. That about sums it up.

Pls explain where this cloud comes from. The case is built from meta'ing and it's pretty fricken tiny. There ain't roles involved, there ain't shiz. Please show me the obvious WIFOM you see.

You've set yourself here the standard of voting people for "wifom cloud" with a Csarmi lynch when on this lynch it barely exists.

Leelou · July 18, 2013

Alright, all caught up here.

First off, I believe Csarmi's claim here and don't see the reasoning behind lynching him in all three threads day 1.

I did notice that Leelou seems to be sheeping Verbal in this thread. Is there a reason for this that I am perhaps unaware of? Is verbal known as a good player on this site? I'm going to read through the other threads and see if I can put this together.

@Leelou: did you not believe Csarmi's claim?

vote: Leelou

Metawise, both Serra and Yates seem like their town selves here. I'm glad.

First off, wrong thread to call me out for sheeping, I'm not in any but I could see it in a different thread where I actually ask Verbal who we should vote. BTW I pretty much start every game out like this with Verbal. Where I normally play mafia, they are a bit more jokey and we evolve into seriousness through Day 1. For me, this game picked up too seriously too quickly.

Just an opening post.

*sits on a desk, cross legged waiting for other people to visit this thread*

hi

The next few series of posts are jokes from the other site a few of us play on, Verbal and Nol included.

Let's make this quick, I've got a nap to take.

Vote Verbal

We'll speak of this tomorrow. ;-)

We could preemptively start that up...

pew pew pew

This vote was for bandwagoning:

vote Yates

I was already on board with lynching salami, so I voted.

unvote, vote salami

My explanation for voting salami is in these next two posts

Lotta quiet sheeping going on. Would appreciate a little more input from those of you who are just jumping on the Csarmi train.

I voted him first. In the other thread.

Hard to keep track of such things...

And the threads are only ~5 pages each at most.

Inter thread play is going to get complicated quick.

I suggest it be dropped by tomorrow unless there's a good reason for it or we're going to all get way too twisted.

I voted him first for bandwagoning, and then I think he was posting on the three threads at that time.

To your question:

@Leelou: did you not believe Csarmi's claim?

At this point, he's claimed VT, we wouldn't be losing a PR, there is still the possibility he's a lying scum, and the salami lynches across all three threads will give us a lot of actual info from Day 1. He's the one that bridged the games together, posting exactly the same in a way that seemed to try to mask a meta. I was all for playing the threads as separate games (I started off voting people who were quick to bandwagon). I'd much rather get his lynches out of the way, see which way he flips and then analyze each thread on their own and see about picking out scum from there. As it is, without an actual alignment from him it's hard to judge why people are acting the way they are in each thread. Lynching anyone else without an actual strong read would be a waste of a day because we will lose all the reactions from this train.

Secondly, Leelou, sheep Verbal? Nah, never happen.

Seems like a bit much in response to one comment about you sheeping. I didn't think you were sheeping incidentally, or at least not Verbal. If anyone, a good bit of us are sheeping Nolder. I could say you were buddying Verbal, but I wouldn't because I know yall have a close friendship. You could've just as easily pointed this out to 'ol dude.

I guess it's one of my pet peeves. Ape tries to say I follow the Ape all the time when I don't, so I don't really like being called out wrongfully for sheeping. I pulled up my posts just to show that I'm not sheeping in case anyone tried to latch on to it.

Niniel · July 18, 2013

I don´t like this triple lynch idea but I don´t see that anyone else will get lynched. Lynching a vanilla isn´t that bad. I will look at people that started the whole triple lynch idea. Those are the people that are trying to hide their meta by voting Cs in each thread.

Vote Cs

lolguy26 · July 18, 2013

Am I voting him? NO

The wifom is how do we know he isn't mafia "IN THIS THREAD"

And why are you so blantly defending him?

Tiinker · July 18, 2013

Am I voting him? NO

The wifom is how do we know he isn't mafia "IN THIS THREAD"

And why are you so blantly defending him?

I've stated my thoughts on his lynch. Your comments stick out. Why you think helping push his lynch along without voting yourself is advantageous to you is beyond me.

lolguy26 · July 18, 2013

Really stick out in what way?

csarmi · July 18, 2013

Yeah cause a 1-time BPV that has already claimed is SOOOO useful to town. The PR to top all other PR's

It's quite useful, actually. Are you saying that a player that can't be killed is not a thorn in the maffia's side?

What if that townie gets confirmed?

That role has a lot of tactical uses. Keep denying it, I'm sure that's gonna help you.

Tiinker · July 18, 2013

Really stick out in what way?

Push for lynch with nonsensical reasoning.

August 9, 2013: CONCLUDED

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