Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game 1 - Destiny Islands [Mafia Win!]

[Yates]

Tina [and a little bit Des]:

 

Is there a Yates scum wagon? Where?

That was kind of my point. There isn't one yet. But you have a thumb out on the side of the road just in case a Yates-wagon happens to roll on by.

 

Mafia often know that they have a symp.

Oh really? Because:

Actually, that's not true. If Verbal is scum he wouldn't know that Mish was a symp.

Others have also said mafia don't know who their symps are but Peace is the one that has flipped Town. And that transitions nicely into this thing here...

 

Don´t buy the not looking up stuff anyway.

1st - I would have to know to LOOK UP symp. Mish flipped red scum. Why would I delve any deeper than that?? I didn't look up "Mafia Darkside" either until all this nonsense. [btw - I found it under 'Kingdom Hearts Darkside'"

2nd - Even if I knew to look it up, where would I look to find out how you guys use a symp? You don't have a handy wiki. You want me to look offsite? Fine. Here you go... http://mafia.perendination.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sympathizer

 

"This is a generally evil role who is on the same team as another known member, but is not able to communicate with that person. Usually the other player does not know of their symp's existence or identity. "

 

Guess that demonstrates that even YOU don't know what a symp is and you've been playing here. That OR you are INTENTIONALLY trying to paint me in a bad light.

 

That's assuming you guys don't use this version here: http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?t=20501433

 

"You are a mafia sympathizer. You win the game if the mafia win the game, whether you are alive or dead. You count towards the Mafia voting block, but the mafia do not know who you are, though you will be informed of their identities."

 

Looks like TWO sites disagree with your assertion that scum "usually" know who the symp is. And the kicker?

"You will turn up innocent if investigated."

 

Dude. If that's the case? There's NO FRIGGIN WAY I'd be scum pushing on Mish [as Des asserted] in favor of a goon.

 

[Krakalakachkn]

Just a thought.

 

 

Unless there's an unwritten rule that you don't eff with a wiki (which I'm not aware of), your response seems pretty overblown.  I've always operated under the assumption that players will do a lot and go outside the box to stay alive or pull some move.

[Graendals favourite]

vote yates. I've not seen anyone defend DPR as much as he did.

[Niniel]

Mafia often know they have a symp, but they don´t know who that is. Can we just leave that? Go vote Verbal. 

[Yates]

Just a thought.

 

 

Unless there's an unwritten rule that you don't eff with a wiki (which I'm not aware of), your response seems pretty overblown.  I've always operated under the assumption that players will do a lot and go outside the box to stay alive or pull some move.

MY response is overblown?!! You just accused me deleting stuff from our site's wiki to use to my advantage on another site and you think *I* am the one being unreasonable?? HA!

[Niniel]

Yeh, that was really weird, Krak. And you still have to mention who you are suspicious of.

[Hallia]

Your correct Yates. Day ended with DPR's lynch. I wanted to do a case on peace, and now he's gone so the case I'd started building is now moot

[Hallia]

Your correct Yates. Day ended with DPR's lynch. I wanted to do a case on peace, and now he's gone so the case I'd started building is now moot.

[Hallia]

Stupid mobile

[Yates]

Mafia often know they have a symp, but they don´t know who that is. Can we just leave that?

No. We can't "leave it at that". I just linked to a direct quote from Peace in this game as well as to TWO off site links [rule of 3's in research] that contradict this precise statement. I'm not going to "leave it at that" and let you try to use that to paint me in a negative light. No ma'am. Not happening.

[Verbal32]

Yep. Take a look at Verbal´s post and ask me if you see any attempt at scumhunting.

I can't do both. I'm busy defending what I think is going to be a hard push on me today. I ramp up as games go on - anybody that plays a lot with me can confirm that.

 

I didn't FOS or vote multiple people before because I took a stand on either Hallia or DPR, albeit the wrong stand.

 

Now the day is fresh with a flipped scum and then a NK, and instead of reviewing and looking to case players, you're forcing me to go on the defensive. If you want to back off and allow me to get into my groove, then great! If you want me to roll over and let you push my lynch, it's not going to happen.

[Yates]

vote Verbal.

Why verbal over Hallia or Tinker?

[Niniel]

I do think we should leave it because if you are not going to vote me or paint me as scummy then we need you to focus on others right now. 

[Niniel]

 

Yep. Take a look at Verbal´s post and ask me if you see any attempt at scumhunting.

I can't do both. I'm busy defending what I think is going to be a hard push on me today. I ramp up as games go on - anybody that plays a lot with me can confirm that.

 

I didn't FOS or vote multiple people before because I took a stand on either Hallia or DPR, albeit the wrong stand.

 

Now the day is fresh with a flipped scum and then a NK, and instead of reviewing and looking to case players, you're forcing me to go on the defensive. If you want to back off and allow me to get into my groove, then great! If you want me to roll over and let you push my lynch, it's not going to happen.

 

 

I´m forcing you to go on the defensive? Wow, I must have awesome powers I didn´t know about.

[Verbal32]

Mafia often know they have a symp, but they don´t know who that is. Can we just leave that? Go vote Verbal.

That's enough. Stop pushing 1 side of the coin. Yes, some symps are actually mafia waiting to be recruited by a team looking fit them. Please note this is NOT how the symp role was designed - it is a variant.

 

Normal symps are exactly as I've previously defined - they know scum but scum doesn't even know they exist. Trying to push 1 over the other is pointless, and makes your reasoning suspect on this point.

[Niniel]

 

vote Verbal.

Why verbal over Hallia or Tinker?

 

 

Read my posts from today. It´s the last two pages so you don´t need to look far away. Short version: I think Hallia has done a lot of mistakes that makes me think she is not paying attention to the game. Mafia pays attention. Tiinker is highly suspicious and I could vote there too but I feel that Verbal is more interesting to focus on right now. 

[Niniel]

 

Mafia often know they have a symp, but they don´t know who that is. Can we just leave that? Go vote Verbal.

That's enough. Stop pushing 1 side of the coin. Yes, some symps are actually mafia waiting to be recruited by a team looking fit them. Please note this is NOT how the symp role was designed - it is a variant.

 

Normal symps are exactly as I've previously defined - they know scum but scum doesn't even know they exist. Trying to push 1 over the other is pointless, and makes your reasoning suspect on this point.

 

 

I´m just saying what I have experienced. 

[Yates]

I do think we should leave it because if you are not going to vote me or paint me as scummy then we need you to focus on others right now.

Did you miss my whole case on Hallia as well as my breakdown of the three wagons yesterday? Also, I do think you are worth looking into more closely as evidenced by the fact I said I'd be reading you more closely.

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

Yep. Take a look at Verbal´s post and ask me if you see any attempt at scumhunting.

I can't do both. I'm busy defending what I think is going to be a hard push on me today. I ramp up as games go on - anybody that plays a lot with me can confirm that.

 

I didn't FOS or vote multiple people before because I took a stand on either Hallia or DPR, albeit the wrong stand.

 

Now the day is fresh with a flipped scum and then a NK, and instead of reviewing and looking to case players, you're forcing me to go on the defensive. If you want to back off and allow me to get into my groove, then great! If you want me to roll over and let you push my lynch, it's not going to happen.

I´m forcing you to go on the defensive? Wow, I must have awesome powers I didn´t know about.

Don't be ridiculous. I'm at or near the top of most people's scum list, and you came out and voted me. You know that will start a train - it's actually the perfect move for scum, seeing as you yourself were mentioned as scummy by a few folks.

 

You're also smart enough to realize what my toeing the scummy line might indicate, and you are capitalizing on that. I'll compliment you on a well thought out case, but you're still overlooking the "townies play the scummiest games" tendency.

[Niniel]

Verbal - who are you suspicious of? Me? Cause I´ve not seen you mention any names today... or yesterday. 

[Verbal32]

 

 

 

Mafia often know they have a symp, but they don´t know who that is. Can we just leave that? Go vote Verbal.

That's enough. Stop pushing 1 side of the coin. Yes, some symps are actually mafia waiting to be recruited by a team looking fit them. Please note this is NOT how the symp role was designed - it is a variant.

 

Normal symps are exactly as I've previously defined - they know scum but scum doesn't even know they exist. Trying to push 1 over the other is pointless, and makes your reasoning suspect on this point.

I´m just saying what I have experienced.

Out of hundreds of games I've played, the vast majority have symps exactly as I've defined.

 

What does that mean for this game? Zilch.

 

If you keep trying to fit round plugs into square holes, you're gonna get called out for it.

[_CLOUD]

Verbal - who are you suspicious of? Me? Cause I´ve not seen you mention any names today... or yesterday. 

 

He did say that he wouldn't be voting for Hallia. 

 

@Verb: Who do you think is scum?

[Verbal32]

Verbal - who are you suspicious of? Me? Cause I´ve not seen you mention any names today... or yesterday.

Look harder. Yesterday I was all about Hallia. Today I haven't made a decision, but your full court press has gotten my attention. ;-)

[Yates]

Yeh, that was really weird, Krak.

Is this normal for Krak? Now I have yet ANOTHER person to go look at...

[Verbal32]

 

 

Verbal - who are you suspicious of? Me? Cause I´ve not seen you mention any names today... or yesterday.

He did say that he wouldn't be voting for Hallia.

 

@Verb: Who do you think is scum?

I'm really not sure. I was very wrong on DPR, so I'll need to re-read some with that correction in mind. I'm also going to take a closer look at the case on Tiinker.

 

I also think Tina is suspect for how she's trying just a bit too hard to generate votes for my train. Could be pressure, but I don't remember seeing her dial it up like this before.