Underworld Mafia [Basic] - Game Over. TOWN WINS!

[Andrej]

Marines is Navy with a gun.

 

Maybe he is a Agent Aboard.

 

I have a soft spot for sailors - well one anyways.

 

I'm just being nosy as we are likely to be working together soon.

 

For your HP game? Splendid

But no, I'm not anything as spectacular as a secret agent abroad lol. I was a mechanic but now I sit behind a desk and tell everyone else what to do while I play on DM all night.

[lolguy26]

 

@AJ: how was that in anyway the starting of an argument?!

 

Argument, discussion, debate etc etc. Pick whichever word you want to use for two people talking about a certain topic.

 

The policy lynch thing wasn't the point. Obviously you missed my sarcasm.

 

 

i saw the sarcasm and it was a very cheeky comment 

 

and when i said "policy lynching" i was talking about his intent on why he wanted to lynch vam which is "discussing the game", obviously you missed my point 

[hazelkrs1]

Hey there, was caught up earlier and tried writing up a post while on the toilet earlier and got cloudflaired. So I got one more night off btw, after that I'm going to do a full reread and see if I can catch more.

 

For now tho, here are my best reads and a little bit of reasoning for each:

 

Peace: kinda obvious, he was one of the two (Dap being the other one) that was really preaching caution about the Cloud lynch. His "caution" seemed more opportunistic than Dap's tho. Honestly need to lynch him just to get rid of the wifom imo.

 

Vam: basically, off his meta. He came out casing much earlier than normal, and seemed less hesitant. Also slightly defended a few people I found scummy, Cloud being one of them (also Peace somewhat recently I think)

 

Dap: other part of the cautious pair. There was enough evidence yesterday to see that Cloud was the easy choice for the lynch yesterday, caution be damned. He was more obvious in his stance than Peace however, but then again I don't like his recent "I would have bussed him if I was his teammate" type comments.

 

Panchi: has coasted by, and her bandwagon vote yesterday was very questionable. Was it on Cloud? I can't remember atm.

 

Mish: a bit of an under the radar addition to this list- I almost feel like she's gotten much more involved and confident since she hammered Cloud, as if maybe she thinks that hammer vote bought her a ton of town cred.

 

AJ: more of a gut feeling. A few of his posts have just felt off to me this game. Will have to go back through on his to see what exactly if I wanna case him later. His involvement in Clouds lynch yesterday does make me feel slightly less wary of him tho.

 

With that being said, Vote Peace. His tone today seems somewhat similar to the recent Merlin game in how he was somewhat resigned to his fate. Doesn't seem to be fighting his lynch all that hard.

[Andrej]

 

 

@AJ: how was that in anyway the starting of an argument?!

 

Argument, discussion, debate etc etc. Pick whichever word you want to use for two people talking about a certain topic.

 

The policy lynch thing wasn't the point. Obviously you missed my sarcasm.

 

 

i saw the sarcasm and it was a very cheeky comment 

 

and when i said "policy lynching" i was talking about his intent on why he wanted to lynch vam which is "discussing the game", obviously you missed my point 

 

 

Hardly. I know what you were getting at with your question towards Dap.

 

Speaking of discussion... now that you're here perhaps you'll actually participate and share some thoughts. Who do you think we should lynch today?

[Ithillian Turambar]

I didn't get a read from Despo

 

What does everyone think about me now?

[lolguy26]

you seem to say that every game to me, i sense a pattern 

 

eh i should reread the game to get better reads but for now

 

Vam

Hal 

panch

AJ

 

 

 

Vam: he's gone too quiet after him a sudden increase in his usual activity

Hal: i dont think she's posted much

Panchi: ^ see above

AJ: last time you played like this you were scum, but you have the benefit of doubt 

[Andrej]

you seem to say that every game to me, i sense a pattern 

 

eh i should reread the game to get better reads but for now

 

Vam

Hal 

panch

AJ

 

 

 

Vam: he's gone too quiet after him a sudden increase in his usual activity

Hal: i dont think she's posted much

Panchi: ^ see above

AJ: last time you played like this you were scum, but you have the benefit of doubt 

 

Perhaps there is one. Reflect deeply on this after taking a moment to think of how you play these games.

 

@Despo - No thoughts on Dice?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Everyone seems to be very carefully avoiding saying whether they believe me to be Town or not at this point.

[lolguy26]

im very bad at basic games, thought about that lol 

[lolguy26]

eh ithi lets see, you and cloud could be running a gambit but it seems a stretch, so for now a town(ish) read  

[Andrej]

Everyone seems to be very carefully avoiding saying whether they believe me to be Town or not at this point.

 

It is quite the coincidence.

 

If I really believed that everything that happened with Cloud was one huge gambit, I would make a case about it. It's too far a stretch, I think. The only way you two could successfully pull off both claiming Eve would be that there wasn't another in this game. Unlikely. Too large of a risk, IMO. Claiming VT when Cloud was pushing that she MUST be a PR only reaffirmed this for me considering my role. Cloud's claim at Doc wasn't a smart move either in my mind, but hey, he made it.

 

So no, I am not avoiding it. I just didn't feel the need to voice the fact that you are essentially vetted on my list. I was rather surprised that you weren't killed last night, tbh.

[hazelkrs1]

Lol ithi I would've thought that you wouldn't have exactly wanted your town flag waived too high in the air, since that makes you more of a target if everyone looks at you as cleared town. Def think the CC kinda clears you IMO. Didn't seem gambity to me, and a gambit would be too risky in a basic game of this size anyways.

 

In the meantime tho you don't have to focus too much on yourself and what people say of you, use those fancy scum hunting skills to find us some more scum

 

@Andrej: nope, nothing really stood out to me about Dice at all. If there had been something I prob would have mentioned it.

 

Why are you so concerned with my thoughts about someone who isn't even a major player at this point?

[Andrej]

Because scum will lurk, Despo. Given that you are an experienced player I am surprised you asked me something that like. Mafia can just sit back and let the Town pick each other apart, especially with everything that happened involving Cloud's alignment. We basically had two lynch candidates lined up from the start of today with Dap and Peace because of their hesitance.

 

A lot of your reads are fairly obvious and make sense, which is fine. I liked the one on Mish especially. I am not particularly suspicious of her at the moment but I liked the insight. I never really fully trust Mish after she burned me in my first game lol

[hazelkrs1]

Of course scum may lurk, but there are many who could be said to have been lurking this game. Why were you asking about Dice specifically?

 

Also, who told you I was an experienced player? I don't remember seeing anyone else mention that in thread, and thus is the first game I've played with you...

[hazelkrs1]

Going to sleep btw, def more in zombie mode than any of my other archetypes atm

[Andrej]

Because I am voting Dice. I took it as an understanding that you are an experienced player. Most regulars on DM tend to be. Also, you have mafia siggies in your rotation.

[michellem]

Ithi is solidly town in my book, and AJ too I'm pretty certain is town because of his claim of Michael, wich no-one has CC'ed (and I find it extremely hard to believe Michael would not be in this game).

[bgrishinko]

Ithi is solidly town in my book, and AJ too I'm pretty certain is town because of his claim of Michael, wich no-one has CC'ed (and I find it extremely hard to believe Michael would not be in this game).

i want to ditto this statement.

[Andrej]

Who do you think we should lynch today BG?

 

What do you think of Despo deciding the players without many posts are ignorable?

[peacesells]

Despo, after this game you really need to think about your reads on me.  They've been wrong each game since you've been back. 

[peacesells]

The next person who votes me dies. 

[bgrishinko]

I'm spending most my time with family this weekend so I'm just popping in here and there on my phone. Don't have a lot of time for analysis. I think Peace is the best candidate right now, not because of straight up defense but more for fence sitting. On the lynch. All info was in, fake claim, Ithi's counter and AJs support, but Peace still said he was unsure if I remember right. Either defend or don't. Apologies if those weren't your exact words Peace.

[lolguy26]

The next person who votes me dies. 

 

eh what?!

[bgrishinko]

Now there's a completely town thing to say.

[Andrej]

These are my thoughts thus far:

 

Ithi is Town.

 

Peace I am willing to gamble is Town. He is an easy target now that Cloud flipped as scum but I also feel he is a relatively easy target because of the circumstance. I am more suspicious of those who continue to gun for him. Like I said previously, my town read is based on the fact that Cloud never acknowledged his defending. A Town player would have likely been suspicious that Peace was trying to buddy.

 

Despo could be Town based on how he was on Cloud's train albeit early. I dislike his reasoning to ignore players who he considers not important due to their involvement thus far.

 

Dap I feel is Town. He had the perfect reason not to vote a teammate and still look town which is the major concern. I don't trust him fully but it is still early in the game.

 

Mish I am unsure of. She hammered Cloud, but some of my thoughts echo Despo's.

 

Dice is Mafia. I trust Darthe's instincts and his lack of participation despite what he claims as the reason bothers me. In his short post earlier he attempts to cast suspicion on two other players while basically parroting everyone else's thoughts considering Cloud's flip. It felt like an attempt to direct attention elsewhere so he can remain in the shadows.

 

BG I am unsure of. He hasn't said much since replacing in but his statement on Darthe's WIFOM were logical. Darthe dying somewhat clears him in my mind.

 

Panchi hasn't done or said much. However, I think Peace has a point that she hasn't died yet considering her lack of involvement. If I were scum, she would make a good choice for NK considering there isn't enough to connect her to anyone.

 

Vam I could go either way on. I think a lot of his posts come across scummy because he has trouble expressing his thoughts.

 

Turin is probably Town. Peace's comments interested me and I noticed he was focusing rather hard on Peace's defense of Cloud which makes me suspicious. But his involvement during Cloud's lynch wants to make me think he is Town.

 

Chuckles is playing by his typical meta. Which is basically crappy play. I would push to lynch him just because he gets on my nerves, but I don't feel he is mafia and I would rather kill scum.