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Why are you guys saying:

 

I am not third party, I am not cult, I am not mafia, I am not any kind of anti-town and I am indeed Town.

 

I believe that myself and the others have said this just in case there is a Lie Detector in this advanced mafia game.

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ok..so you came in and made that contribution to the game.  Hmm..you plan on doing anything else other than talk about how you won't be around?

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Right chuckles

 

The petulant player that believes posts = town

 

So he got all uppity when people said he wasn't posting stuff of worth and all his posts were shallow. He then asked where he had just posted "so" or "I don't"

 

I'm going to broaden this. I'm going to look for anywhere that he has posted something that, if he was bale fired and everything he did was removed form this game completely, has effected the game in any way shape or form

 

Here follows the posts of chuckles

 

hello, a bunch of new people, well i did play with notbob once but dont know the rest of them

Great! Nothing said, maybe setting up a little meta on not bob later but doubt it, off to a great start

 

 

 

hello, a bunch of new people, well i did play with notbob once but dont know the rest of them

 

..I want to call you Lulz for some strange reason. and welcome to the game. Thoughts?

might be the whole lolguything but call me chuckles ;)

 

no thoughts yet

No thoughts yet...

This comes after despos mini case on that "you're distancing!" "Well youre.defending!" "And you're linking stuff"

thoughts weren't hard to come by

 

 

 

 

 

hello, a bunch of new people, well i did play with notbob once but dont know the rest of them

 

hello

been a while, so whats up

Living the dream, man. How you doing?

good, so thoughts so far?

And now we begin the chuckles MO*

 

1. Find someone with thoughts

2. Second/repeat/agree with them

3. Profit

 

*no originality required

 

wombat your confusing me, do you mind if people vote around without justifying it or not?

"Is it ok for me to vote without justification in the future?"

 

 

 

I don't mind unexplained votes in principle. That being said, they should be used sparingly.

 

ok thanks

"I know know how to look more town!"

 

 

To add to that: yes I'm interested in why people vote. Maybe they saw something I didn't. Or, maybe they're being lazy with their vote. By knowing the reason I get a better feel for them.

 

and i agree with this line of reasoning

Back to the MO

Someone else needs to say it first or else it's having an opinion right chuckles?

 

@mod: do we have a Deadline yet?

Just something more that has no effect on the game....

(Well very little. I guess a deadline is important but after everything else it's just another way to post without an opinion)

 

 

I like how the countertrain to Kaylee is on Thorum, the biggest D1 lynch target in the history of DM mafia. That's not transparent at all.

 

i didnt know that. and neither would half the players in the game

Lol

You sound like a childish mafia

"It's not fair that this is scummy! I didn't know it was scummy so you can't call me scummy over it"

Posted

 

 

 

Which is what makes it even more telling imo. The mafia may not have known not to do it.

 

dude thats BS, your assuming too much and basing it all on nothing

 

but saying that, i agree that kaylee seems a better lynch than thorum now

Lol

Then back to only agreeing

 

 

 

@mod: do we have a Deadline yet?

 

What's the hurry?

So we know when to hurry, like now for example, we have about 1 day and 8 hours or so till the time ends

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vote Hallia

 

So we can have 2 competing trains with the same number of votes and i like the points despo made regarding her

This is almost a thought!

But the deadline stuff. The mod hadn't made a deadline. She isn't suddenly gunna make it in 24 hours

 

 

derailing the lynch is my guess

 

I missed the quote this replied to. I believe it was wombat saying the Hally train was taking off though

 

This is probably the most original thought from chuckles all game.

 

hmm hal claims cop, and we get 2 votes on wombat and one on kaylee

 

 

 

 

so current VC

 

UNOfficial Vote Count Mish (1/11): peaceKaylee (4/11): Womby, Player, Hallia, TigraineBasel (3/11): Razen, Kraka, TiinkThorum (1/11): MishWombat (3/11): TG , NotBob, Thorum,

Hallia (6/11):Despo, Chuckles, Basel, Rhea, Darthe, Not voting (1/20): alannalynn.Deadline!!! Monday 20:00 EST http://www.timeandda...lin Mafia Day 1

 

So he acknowledges the cop claim

He does a vote count

 

But fails to unvote (even though he just tallied the votes so knows he is voting the claimed cop)

 

???

I don't even know

 

 

If I can believe Hallia's claim that she is the cop, then it appears at this time there is only one other lynch train which has a good chance of being completed.

 

Pushing the kaylee train without actually being on it

 

Atleast he had a thought. This post of Vams has more of a read than everything else you've said so far

I'll claim in the morning if need be.Unvote

 

soft claiming :rolleyes:

And unvoting......

But yea yet another statement to be seen posting

 

 

 

Good lord this guys is scum.

 

Vote Chuckles

 

You keep trying to act like the helpful townie, asking the mod for a deadline, posting unofficial VC's, and that last post is just ewww. How in the world is what Kaylee said soft-claiming? I see literally no hint of any kind of a claim in there.

 

I really think some people are struggling with the concept of soft-claiming lately. Someone said Hallia's cryptic post before her reveal was soft-claiming, that wasn't either. Soft-claiming is hinting at or partially revealing a role; saying or implying that they're town is NOT a soft claim because pretty much EVERYONE would claim they were town.

I agree more with chuckles here. Kaylee hinted that she had a form of role to reveal, which I dislike. Anyway that's off topic for this

 

i am being helpful not trying

You are being helpful as a co mod

Not as a player

 

So far we could wipe you from the game and feel no loss at all

Harsh but true

Posted

 

@despo: when says ill claim in the morning, what does that imply?

Good you are finally taking a stand on something. Pity it's only cos someone called you out on It but whatever

 

:rolleyes:

 

dude, when she claims, that will leave us with almost no time to start another train or something,

 

Or something?

This is also a push on all other current trains (aren't you still voting Hally? If you wanted her to reveal quicker why not vote and pressure her?)

 

so your saying because im being nice and helpful that makes me scum?

At the moment you are dead weight

Regardless of alignment.

 

However the few times you get skittish and based off meta you are more likely mafia than town

 

 

whats the rest of the reason im so scumtastic??

I don't think anyone used that word. But for what reason are you town?

You've had no original ideas. You are following everyone

You are scared to take a stand

You emphasise deadlines

You post for the sake of posting

You jump when people call you scummy

 

 

 

 

whats the rest of the reason im so scumtastic??

 

Partly that you're not really doing anything.

hey you cant blame me, everytime i post something im "trying too look like helpful"

So we can't blame you for what you are doing?

Why not be helpful? Instead of doing meaningless stuff?

 

You're trumping up bad fos's on people and trying to be cute too much. I was already suspicious of you before, those last two posts of yours I quoted last page confirmed it for me.

Here here

 

im always cute :wink:

 

Not the time or the place

 

 

Well, there goes my hope something would have happened during work :(

 

I'll unvote and put my vote back on kaylee

 

 

I won't get back online before deadline. We need to lynch someone and it's probably gonna be between her and basel.

 

so you either skimmed through her claim or dont believe it

 

which one is it?

How quickly you forget that wombat called you out for Thorum earlier lol

But at least you're consistent

 

 

 

Well, there goes my hope something would have happened during work :(

 

I'll unvote and put my vote back on kaylee

 

 

I won't get back online before deadline. We need to lynch someone and it's probably gonna be between her and basel.

 

After she's claimed? This coming from and experienced player?

 

I've read through the game a couple times this morning which has left my head spinning a bit. Lots of WIFOM and game mechanics. If it weren't so close to deadline I'd be voting Thorum for that vote on Kaylee. Seeing as I have to go to work and won't be back this evening the only viable thing I think I can do is right now is Vote Basel and hope for the best.

when has anyone mentioned game mechanics?

Omg!

You're doing something!

 

im sure someone can explain game mechanics better than i can, but joke voting and RVS is just game play,

 

oh right unvote

 

and let me get a VC up

You are an idiot

 

You call someone out for skimming or not believing a claim while your vote rots on a claimed cop

 

You even did a VC with your own name on said cop

 

Explain your use in this game?

 

meh ill just let the mod do the VC

Yes

Do this for the rest of the game. One less thing yu can pretend to help with

 

 

 

 

Well, there goes my hope something would have happened during work :(

I'll unvote and put my vote back on kaylee

I won't get back online before deadline. We need to lynch someone and it's probably gonna be between her and basel.

 

so you either skimmed through her claim or dont believe it

which one is it?

Probably doesn't believe and/or doesn't care. Why should we all of a sudden hop off a scummy player just because she claims vig?

probably cuz she claimed vig

Kinda void now that she flipped SK, but SKers often fake claim vigs

Sometimes mafia do too

 

This is not a role that claiming should grant you instant unvotes

 

 

Finally,unvote

Vote: Basel

He's not as scummy as Kaylee but he's still been a complete sketchball this game and he's the only player close to lynch atm.

Tomorrow I'll probably be going for Kaylee or Mish.

 

why mish?

 

i dont think you mentioned her before

(sorry if you did, im just too tired to go back and check)

Why so worried for mish?

 

But getting originalish

 

Right before I go to bedvote basel

I hate randoms

Almost as much as you hate having to think for yourself

 

for some reason thorum you remind me of this

 

Back_in_my_day_Img01.jpg

 

What were you saying about not spamming?

 

CDs?!! :huh::tongue:

 

and one of the most embarrassing (and funniest) thing i ever asked my grandmother was that when she was small, were the people black and white

 

:dry: they still make fun of me for that :rolleyes:

Spams

 


So that takes us to the start of Day Two

 

So far he hasn't said much Of use (he even admits it at one point)

So there is the evidence for that

 

Who knows though. He might have actual useful posts in the next few pages before he goes all petulant and asks for the evidence

 


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ok..so you came in and made that contribution to the game.  Hmm..you plan on doing anything else other than talk about how you won't be around?

 

 I don't spend half my day on Dragonmount.

 

I don't care if you don't like that I do not spend as much time playing mafia as you do. 

Posted

 

Fair enough. I was also considering voting TG, but not for the vote at the end of the day. I found his vote and case on you very contrived earlier in the day. I could possibly switch, but as I mentioned I still think Chuckles would make a great info lynch for the reasons I stated.

your reasoning is as legit as ever despo, i mean you've never played with me, yet you claim that im pretending to be helpful when i pretty much always do VC if i can

It's cos you do a VC instead of anything useful

 

 

 

How could they not do it intentionally?

She claimed vigilante and even though its town alignment it still works in the sense that she's more likely to hit town than mafia so why take out someone that however tenuous is actually kind of an asset?

 

 

*sigh* it could be any number of reasons

They are new like Dap says is possible and got scared,

She was onto one of them,

Or they are trying to set up someone that she was onto

The question is, which one?

It seems like I spend more of my time in mafia games asking questions than doing anything else. My brain always sees 5 possibilities for every action. It's exhausting.

 

I don't like this. I don't like this at all.

 

 

vote Tig

i agree with this, i think she's selling the confused townie card too hard

 

vote tigs

And back to following

 

well the doc would most likely protect hal, and since she claimed vig, a fairly new mafia would do their best to take out all the kills which they cant control, hence why its the most logical choice, and im not voting her for questioning it, its more cuz she's trying too hard for the confused townie..

aren't you the only new player around really? And it wasn't logical, but I think that got covered at the time.

And same to you, people aren't voting you cos of the VCs. Tey are voting you cos you are trying too hard to be helpful townie

 

 

Someone very unexpected was nightkilled.

 

i dont agree with that btw, it isnt unexpected, especially in an advanced game, its normal

I don't understand the last part?

 

And Kaylee was unexpected, there was a strong case to be made that she was a SK and should be lynched. No need to NK her

 

 

 

well the doc would most likely protect hal, and since she claimed vig, a fairly new mafia would do their best to take out all the kills which they cant control, hence why its the most logical choice

 

That is... not true?

i just read it and it seems confusing, i meant by she (kaylee)

Use proper English

 

No I know what you meant. It's just not true.

 

then why ?

Cos it was a waste if a NK. She was a fairly easy lynch candidate so the NK would of been better served else where

 

 

Vig is more likely to hit town, at least at first.

 

whats this post supposed to mean?

 

i mean if the vig shot kaylee thats cuz he/she didnt want to CC and instead shot her

 

if it was mafia then like i said before, its to remove someone they thought was a threat

Ill deal with this in more detail when I look at krak, but I read this as going with the info before the NK. She was a claimed Vig, so vigs often hit town and so are useful to the mafia when they shoot early

 

And like I said before, they could of removed her with a lynch

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nope, but since krak mentioned vig, i just went with it

 

But you went with "if a Vig shot Kaylee" when you had been talking about mafia NKing her being logical

That's the discrepancy

hmm

 

your only reason is cuz i mentioned a hypothetical situation, if you notice the many "IF"'s there

 

Nope lots if reasons

 

 

 

hmm

 

your only reason is cuz i mentioned a hypothetical situation, if you notice the many "IF"'s there

 

No..read my post again.

 

You state "if THE vig....blah blah blah" as if a vig's existence is known. How would you know? Then when questioned about it you state Krak mentioned there was a vig. He did no such thing.

 

Basically it looks like you are trying sew confusion on who committed the nk.

well honestly im pretty sure there's a vig this game, most advanced games have some sort of vig, so it isnt exactly an impossible suggestion

It isn't impossible is very different to pretty sure......

 

 

 

Well you are saying the most logical choice for a NK would be Kaylee if it was a fairly new mafia. But there are no fairly new players. So it's your logic that's horrible, not mine. And to me it looks like you're trying to distance yourself away from the mafia, with the idea of a new mafia, since you are not a new player.

 

eh mish....i am (i think) the newest player here

So it was logical for you to NKt Kaylee? But not really for anyone else

And Kaylee got NKed....

 

So it's logical you did it?

 

Lol is that the logic you are going with ?

 

 

Is everyone here as experienced as mish wants us to believe?

Also, chuckles is very quiet about it, but he did EXACTLY the same thing as krak. Hence: unvote and vote chuckles.

 

i was asleep dude :dry:

 

(timezones and such)

 

 

what am i very quiet about?

Yea he's taking about votes

 

If you properly read my posts you'd see I did not vote her for questioning why there's a NK but for trying to sell the whole I'm a confused townie act too hard and secondly I didn't say the mafia team was new I was just stating possiblities

" a fairly new mafia would do their best to take out all the kills which they cant control"

Is what you said

That's what happened (Kaylee was killed)

 

Ergo you think there is a new mafia team

 

See the logic there

 

So be better with your words and explain fully or don't make silly statements

 

 

Vote Chuckles

Replies like "So?" and "No I didn't." aren't going to cut it. I'm not 100% on you being scum, but from your posting it seems like your too lazy to even get your head in the game.

 

where did i just post "So"? or "no i didnt"?

Where did you post anything that has progressed the game forwards

 

 

 

 

Vote Chuckles

Replies like "So?" and "No I didn't." aren't going to cut it. I'm not 100% on you being scum, but from your posting it seems like your too lazy to even get your head in the game.

 

where did i just post "So"? or "no i didnt"?

Basically the gist of all your replies.

 

I've got the same exact impression about Chuckles posts. Thanks for putting words to it Tiinker.

 

Proof?

See above

trying to convince you guys is almost impossible simply because you all are too experienced and very good at twisting words to suit your case (no use denying it)

 

My only defense is that i post without really thinking stuff through which in most cases seems scummy, hence everyone always has a scummy read on me

. Call this a policy lynch then if it helps yu sleep at night

oh and proof is very important, you cant just say something without atleast backing it up especially when you mention someone's posting . I believe I've provided enough proof of your uselessness thus far

 

 

1. That's not a defense.

2. You'll know better next time. . We hope If someone's obviously twisting words then they'll be called out on their bullshitting sooner or later. You simply haven't even given us the words to twist which is why no one seems to be coming to your defense.

 

thats the thing, you guys are too experienced enough to twist my words obviously, and seriously dude, ive been posting, what else do you want, spell it out for me will ya then start looking for it and try prove the word twisting. Or rely on more experienced players to point it out later and take you lynch like a man and accept that there is info attached

no worries, tiink but seriously i dont think im being inactive no one called you inactive did that? Just not useful or spamming, i havent even spammed this game >.>.<

you draw a fine line between useless posts and spam but there was the night picture stuff

 

 

Chuckles, your waa waa is showing.

 

Case someone. Stop giving nonchalant frivolous answers for everything. Anyway, I'm not believing this ploy cause you aren't even this casual in other games.

 

:huh:

 

what?

Nw who is playing the confused townie card?

 

i didnt know i had a proper meta......

just cos you keep saying this doesnt make it true

 

and anyways i was going for something new this game, sadly it hasnt worked out,

the sheep technique?

 

but just to get this clear, im scum for being not on my meta/not posting many game related posts/ general scumminess?

Pretty much

Lol pull a rand :tongue:

But seriously I'm just a vanilla but if I'm not lynched by the time I wake up,ill reread and post my thoughts,

I can't wait .

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vote chuckles

 

 

ok..so you came in and made that contribution to the game.  Hmm..you plan on doing anything else other than talk about how you won't be around?

 

 

 I don't spend half my day on Dragonmount.

 

I don't care if you don't like that I do not spend as much time playing mafia as you do.

I don't care how much time you spend on DM and neither does he or any other players

It's the amount of game related stuff you post

Chuckles spends all this time on DM and has hardly posted anything of use

If every time you had posted it was an insightful game related post you would be beating him and no one would mind

 

That's what people want

  

 

I am town, not mafia, not third party, not cult or any other kind of anti-town.

Posted

Oh goodie, I get one too?!  I can only hope mine is as bitchy.

 

 

 

I'll agree that lolguy's statement about "fairly new mafia" is his most concrete incriminating post so far.

Posted

Oh goodie, I get one too?!  I can only hope mine is as bitchy.

 

 

 

I'll agree that lolguy's statement about "fairly new mafia" is his most concrete incriminating post so far.

Lol it did get a bit mean

Sorry about that

Just recovering from some form of man flu and have to go out to a friends birthday tonight

So there was a short window I had to do it and RL was making me bitchy

 

Points still stand

Posted

I don't want to Hammer Chuckles before he has a chance to defend himself. Lets let him sit there for a bit at the L-1 mark.

Posted

I don't want to Hammer Chuckles before he has a chance to defend himself. Lets let him sit there for a bit at the L-1 mark.

 

 

Prove it.

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