Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

Tyler Glembo · May 25, 2013

Darthe · May 25, 2013

Okay, here is what I figured out (sorry I disappeared all, had to split earlier). The town has lynches and presents do one of two things. Kill or reveal alignment. There is no middle ground and no need for other power. With this as the incentive and setup (and now confirmed by DPR's talk) it seems that we can only win by both effective lynches and effective vig shots. Here was my conclusion:

Wasting the vig shot on anything less than a use determined by majority is going to lose us this game.

I'll say it again as someone you now can be certain is confirmed town (at least for the hour).

Wasting the vig shot on anything less than a use determined by majority is going to lose us this game.

Is that clear? If you get a shot, you reveal it and it gets used as an instalynch by the town. I leave it to the individual to choose what level of majority is needed (based on time left etc), and if they listen or not but this is the only way to get ahead and thus it makes the most sense.

Beyond this, I think that the peace train (while a bad vig shot) is contrived and I choose to unvote vote cloud.

Gabriel Kross · May 25, 2013

Feels kind of cheap to put DPR on the spot like that.

Why don't we focus on playing the game instead of grilling the mod for all the setup info eh?

I am focused on gameplay, but it doesn't hurt to ask

+1 for DPR for the Rounders reference. Great B-movie. Great.

vote EP

Seriously, at this point we should be focused on scumhunting. There are mafia, let's find and kill them. Enough distracting setup talk.

Wooooooooow instead of being useful going for one of the active trains or casing somebody you pull this? You're no help at all to the town so pot meet kettle, now you two play nicely

berf · May 25, 2013

Need to dedicate some time to a catch up. Nobody lynch or vig anyone until about 1am east coast Australia time.

I apologise in advance for any vitriolic alcohol-based accusations that may come your way.

Ps how long until hour deadline?

The Crusher · May 25, 2013

Okay, here is what I figured out (sorry I disappeared all, had to split earlier). The town has lynches and presents do one of two things. Kill or reveal alignment. There is no middle ground and no need for other power. With this as the incentive and setup (and now confirmed by DPR's talk) it seems that we can only win by both effective lynches and effective vig shots. Here was my conclusion:

Wasting the vig shot on anything less than a use determined by majority is going to lose us this game.

I'll say it again as someone you now can be certain is confirmed town (at least for the hour).

Wasting the vig shot on anything less than a use determined by majority is going to lose us this game.

Is that clear? If you get a shot, you reveal it and it gets used as an instalynch by the town. I leave it to the individual to choose what level of majority is needed (based on time left etc), and if they listen or not but this is the only way to get ahead and thus it makes the most sense.

Beyond this, I think that the peace train (while a bad vig shot) is contrived and I choose to unvote vote cloud.

I would choose to shoot you in the face if I could.

Nolder · May 25, 2013

Yeah so I did some rereading and given the information that Darthe is town I've decided to put my vote back on Peace

I don't know if Des's case is right but I've been leery of Peace since Hour 1 and that's been constantly reinforced as the game went on

I want to trust him despite everything but my gut is telling me that's a mistake and I'm going to listen to it

Vote Peace

John McClane · May 25, 2013

Guys, I'm back from west coast and my sister and brother and law showed up yesterday for a surprise visit with their dog. I'm going to try to catch up this morning, post some, and then my day will be a little consumed with the visit.

Also, I've got to drive down to connecticut tomorrow, after they leave, for a baby shower of a friend. So, again, I'll try to be as efficient with my reading/contributions as I can.

DPR · May 25, 2013

1:00 am

There are 4 Possessed

With 21 players, it takes 11 to lynch

Deadline is in 48 hours.

Tyler Glembo · May 25, 2013

Okay, here is what I figured out (sorry I disappeared all, had to split earlier). The town has lynches and presents do one of two things. Kill or reveal alignment. There is no middle ground and no need for other power. With this as the incentive and setup (and now confirmed by DPR's talk) it seems that we can only win by both effective lynches and effective vig shots. Here was my conclusion:

Wasting the vig shot on anything less than a use determined by majority is going to lose us this game.

I'll say it again as someone you now can be certain is confirmed town (at least for the hour).

Wasting the vig shot on anything less than a use determined by majority is going to lose us this game.

Is that clear? If you get a shot, you reveal it and it gets used as an instalynch by the town. I leave it to the individual to choose what level of majority is needed (based on time left etc), and if they listen or not but this is the only way to get ahead and thus it makes the most sense.

Beyond this, I think that the peace train (while a bad vig shot) is contrived and I choose to unvote vote cloud.

Darthe, whether you are town or not I completely disagree. We don't know how the scum kill mechanic works. When, during the hour, do they have to kill? Can they do it anytime? If so, a town vig revealing means the town vig will be killed.

Tyler Glembo · May 25, 2013

+1 for DPR for the Rounders reference. Great B-movie. Great.

vote EP

Seriously, at this point we should be focused on scumhunting. There are mafia, let's find and kill them. Enough distracting setup talk.

Wooooooooow instead of being useful going for one of the active trains or casing somebody you pull this? You're no help at all to the town so pot meet kettle, now you two play nicely

Really EP? Yes, there could be human mafia. But, when I point out I'm voting you because you've been discussing game mechanics and not scumhunting you reply asking me why I'm not scumhunting?

Nolder · May 25, 2013

votecount?

or did votes get reset?

Hallia · May 25, 2013

With the new hour, they would've been reset.

Gabriel Kross · May 25, 2013

vote cloud

The Crusher · May 25, 2013

Nothing unusual appears on the screen.

DARTHE IS TOWN

He must have changed back knowing full well I was unto him.

The Crusher · May 25, 2013

unvote

John McClane · May 25, 2013

Re-read interupted by dead laptop... just caught up. The Peace vs. Despo thing pinged me towards Peace more, I think he was scum last game and argued the same way with me, where he kept avoiding how he was being cased in favor of commanding his target answer him a certain way. I got that feeling when he said "answer me point by point, don't pick and choose what to respond to".

I'd be okay with a vote on Peace, but it's far from my first choice.

I do it in the morning, right now I sleep

You and my ex wife have a lot in common.

This was the funniest post of the re-read.

Seeing Leelou and Crusher still alive is chilling. I'm also worried about Nolder. Can someone re-count all of the FLIR's we've seen in order, and tell me which of those people is still alive? Which aren't?

I need to re-acclimate a little to what's going on before casting a vote. When is the deadline?

John McClane · May 25, 2013

If someone can give the list of living people that have been FLIR'ed that's probably where I'd narrow my search at this point. Since the FLIRs seem to be coming from random people it's far less likely that anyone would be re-FLIR'ed, making the "confirmed townies" the good targets for conversion, especially since all game long we've been focused on the inactive folks.

John McClane · May 25, 2013

1. Peace

2. bgrishinko - TOWN. KILLED 10:00

3. Verbal - TOWN. KILLED 12:00

4. Lily - TOWN. KILLED 9:00

5. Dap (dapianoplay3r)

6. Tina - TOWN. KILLED 10:00

7. Ishy (replaced by Despo) - TOWN. KILLED 12:00

8. Mish

9. Kronos (Wolfbrotherkronos)

10. Tress (Songstress)

11. Tigy

12. Basel

13. Hallia

14. Vam - TOWN. LYNCHED 9:00

15. RTE (Release The Evil)

16. Ithi - POSSESSED. LYNCHED 11:00

17. Cloud

18. Turin - TOWN. KILLED 8:00

19. Darthe

20. Rand

21. Kaylee

22. EP (Eternal Pheonix)

23. Nolder (FLIR)

24. Berf (Ineed4berfs)

25. Talya - TOWN. KILLED 11:00

26. TGlems

27. Sakaea

28. NotBob - POSSESSED. LYNCHED 10:00

29. Red - TOWN. KILLED 10:00

30. Crusher

31. Ape (John McClane)

32. Leelou

33. Wombat - TOWN. KILLED 11:00

Darthe · May 25, 2013

Okay, here is what I figured out (sorry I disappeared all, had to split earlier). The town has lynches and presents do one of two things. Kill or reveal alignment. There is no middle ground and no need for other power. With this as the incentive and setup (and now confirmed by DPR's talk) it seems that we can only win by both effective lynches and effective vig shots. Here was my conclusion:

Wasting the vig shot on anything less than a use determined by majority is going to lose us this game.

I'll say it again as someone you now can be certain is confirmed town (at least for the hour).

Wasting the vig shot on anything less than a use determined by majority is going to lose us this game.

Is that clear? If you get a shot, you reveal it and it gets used as an instalynch by the town. I leave it to the individual to choose what level of majority is needed (based on time left etc), and if they listen or not but this is the only way to get ahead and thus it makes the most sense.

Beyond this, I think that the peace train (while a bad vig shot) is contrived and I choose to unvote vote cloud.

Darthe, whether you are town or not I completely disagree. We don't know how the scum kill mechanic works. When, during the hour, do they have to kill? Can they do it anytime? If so, a town vig revealing means the town vig will be killed.

Look, the vig shots seem to be our only way of getting ahead. I understand that mafia may do this is we are onto them, but more likely they will want the extra kill and try to use it. Past that, you're absolutely right that we don't know. So basing an argument on things out of our control seems counterproductive.

Nolder · May 25, 2013

Vote Peace

Ape: Other FLIR views include EP, Darthe, Ithi, and I think Notbob

That might not be all of them though. Can't remember.

I think you should also list people who have confirmed killed. IIRC Mish claimed a kill and Peace did as well.

Tyler Glembo · May 25, 2013

Look, the vig shots seem to be our only way of getting ahead. I understand that mafia may do this is we are onto them, but more likely they will want the extra kill and try to use it. Past that, you're absolutely right that we don't know. So basing an argument on things out of our control seems counterproductive.

So are you calling my argument counterproductive or yours?

Tyler Glembo · May 25, 2013

Vote Peace

Ape: Other FLIR views include EP, Darthe, Ithi, and I think Notbob

That might not be all of them though. Can't remember.

I think you should also list people who have confirmed killed. IIRC Mish claimed a kill and Peace did as well.

As did Basel

Tyler Glembo · May 25, 2013

1. Peace - CLAIMED VIG KILL

2. bgrishinko - TOWN. KILLED 10:00

3. Verbal - TOWN. KILLED 12:00

4. Lily - TOWN. KILLED 9:00

5. Dap (dapianoplay3r)

6. Tina - TOWN. KILLED 10:00

7. Ishy (replaced by Despo) - TOWN. KILLED 12:00

8. Mish - CLAIMED VIG KILL

9. Kronos (Wolfbrotherkronos)

10. Tress (Songstress)

11. Tigy

12. Basel - CLAIMED VIG KILL

13. Hallia

14. Vam - TOWN. LYNCHED 9:00

15. RTE (Release The Evil) - USED FLIR

16. Ithi - POSSESSED. LYNCHED 11:00

17. Cloud - USED FLIR

18. Turin - TOWN. KILLED 8:00

19. Darthe

20. Rand

21. Kaylee

22. EP (Eternal Pheonix)

23. Nolder (FLIR)

24. Berf (Ineed4berfs)

25. Talya - TOWN. KILLED 11:00

26. TGlems - used FLIR

27. Sakaea

28. NotBob - POSSESSED. LYNCHED 10:00

29. Red - TOWN. KILLED 10:00

30. Crusher

31. Ape (John McClane)

32. Leelou

33. Wombat - TOWN. KILLED 11:00

Gabriel Kross · May 25, 2013

UNVOTE VOTE APE

I don't like the way APe is playing. He usually takes a more forward approach to games. Yes yes he was busy with rl stuff but stillI've never seen Ape ask for so much info instead of looking for it himself. Meta reasons but it makes sense to me.

Nolder · May 25, 2013

UNVOTE VOTE APE

I don't like the way APe is playing. He usually takes a more forward approach to games. Yes yes he was busy with rl stuff but stillI've never seen Ape ask for so much info instead of looking for it himself. Meta reasons but it makes sense to me.

Unvote Vote EP

You're wrong. When Ape is busy he often asks for someone to fill in the gaps for him.

I think you've been turned.

Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

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