Enter the Dragon Mafia [Basic] D5: Town Wins!!

[csarmi]

You see, if you are town (and you might well be one), you should be thinking about the future. As soon as your coroner's report arrives, we will know the value of your words, your input, and it'll be our responsibility to make use of them. Until you live, however, it's your responsibility to prepare for that eventuality the best way possible.

[Tsukibana]

Confirmed: CS, Dap, Peace, RTE (?)

Unconfrimed: Tsuki, Mish, Darthe, Mill, Tiink, Nolder.

 

Did I miss anyone?

 

I think Mills plays like more of a newb than I do, which pings because he has more experience. I think he's pulled 5 newb cards out of a deck, and we all know there are only one of each card in a suit.

 

I think Darthe is single-minded, and if he wasn't going after me for being a newb, he'd be on Mill's head.

 

I think Mish is slightly scummy, for reasons previously stated.

 

I think Nolder is half-assing this game, and if Lynching lurkers worked, I think lynching the apathetic might net us another one.

 

I think that I can't get a read on Tiink, which means that there is something I am missing, cause I can get a scum read on even Peace and CS, LOL. In fact, that makes him even more scum-ish.

[Tiinker]

Wait you can't read me so I'm scummy?

[Tsukibana]

LOL, yep.

[Tiinker]

Hahhaa..ha..

 

That counter logic right? You can attribute that to your own play not mine.

[Tsukibana]

You are implying that it is my own play that causes me to be unable to get a read?

[Tiinker]

You are implying that it is my own play that causes me to be unable to get a read?

Or rather your inability to play. You not having a read on someone means you don't have a read on someone. Not you don't have a read on someone, they are scummy. If you think I'm hiding something then point it out.

[Tsukibana]

intriguing...  twice I made it clear that the scum read for my own failure to read you was a joke.

Yet you come off quite defensive, implying that were I capable of playing, I would be able to read you. I wonder what you would say that

that read should be? I wonder why that is what you chose to follow, rather than my reads on anyone else. Only Nolder has voted for you,

and yet you seem as if you are worried that my joke will send you to the gallows. Am I that convincing?

 

NOW I am saying that you seem scum. Read achieved.

 

I'm all for voting Nolder for half-assing this game. However, I am looking at actually voting RTE to start with. He is "confirmed" town, and that means he should be

beyond reproach, able to come in and help case. However, he chooses to hide. I believe CS read GF when it came to RTE, and that he's been hiding simply by

being forgotten about.

[Tiinker]

intriguing...  twice I made it clear that the scum read for my own failure to read you was a joke.

Yet you come off quite defensive, implying that were I capable of playing, I would be able to read you. I wonder what you would say that

that read should be? I wonder why that is what you chose to follow, rather than my reads on anyone else. Only Nolder has voted for you,

and yet you seem as if you are worried that my joke will send you to the gallows. Am I that convincing?

 

NOW I am saying that you seem scum. Read achieved.

First off, twice you didn't make it clear you were joking, so the only thing I saw was a big wtf statement on your part.

 

To the red - I've already said I'm vanilla and I'm clearly scum hunting. If you disagreed then you would've questioned my case against Millon but you seem to have let it slide quite nicely so what do you think I'd say my read should be...?

 

To the blue - I don't understand what you're saying.

 

To the green - No.

[Tiinker]

intriguing...  twice I made it clear that the scum read for my own failure to read you was a joke.

Yet you come off quite defensive, implying that were I capable of playing, I would be able to read you. I wonder what you would say that

that read should be? I wonder why that is what you chose to follow, rather than my reads on anyone else. Only Nolder has voted for you,

and yet you seem as if you are worried that my joke will send you to the gallows. Am I that convincing?

 

NOW I am saying that you seem scum. Read achieved.

 

 

In future games you might want to base your casing of people on what happens during the entirety of the game rather than one or two posts.

[Tsukibana]

Ahh, but all those posts have already been gone over and analyzed by myself and other. I judge new information quite nicely, thank you.

 

No comment on my statement about RTE?? why is that? You even edited my post during your quote (not once, but twice!) to erase that part...

[Tiinker]

Because I wasn't replying to it. And no they have not been analyzed. And in combination with their newer posts it makes a big difference. You judge new information horribly if you don't bother to go back and reread what's happened in light of it. Why do you think I went back to reread all of Millons posts? I don't think your scum but I think you're making horrible town judgement bro.

About your point on RTE - It was me who first mentioned the Godfather possibility so I'm obviously skeptical of RTE. But, I think if he was really scum then he'd be putting in doubly as much effort to try and direct but it seems he's playing a generally lazy game so I'm not too sure. Definitely not enough to warrant a vote like you seem to think. 

[ReleaseTheEvil]

As it stands I appear to be the only one convinced that I am town despite the cop viewing.

 

I know this is basic, and there is some leeway there, but I feel some of our theorizing is getting out of the realm of what is feasible in a basic game. I'm not saying that there can't be a GF in a basic game, but if there is it isn't me.

 

Moving on, Tiinker is playing pretty quietly and holding his cards rather close to his chest so to speak. I'd say based on playstyles Tiink and Nolder are having rather passive games, which is rather curious, and Millon just pings me. Of the three I feel rather confident we would find at least one scum among them.

 

You can lynch me if you think it will provide you with info but thus far I think my gameplay has been a bit lacking. Also, it would incriminate Tsuki who I think is town, and I don't want to pull town under the bus with me.

[Tsukibana]

Excellent. Got him back in the game.

 

Tiink, saying I'm looking at voting someone is not the same as actually voting. I can already tell that I'm not a fan of constant Vote/Unvote.

Thanks for calling my judgement into question. 'SIdes, I haven't actually started building a case. All I want is some reactions (which I got),

and some more activity (which I got). Worked for me. Putting up WoT is not my style. I prefer a much more organic "feel" for what a person is

doing/thinking, rather than a nit-pick over every single post. Sometimes, however, the post needs picking apart (like me thinking MIsh

claimed the "real" Lee, which BTW has real evidence now that we see Hallia's coroner report having a name on it) in order to figure out an

intent. If all I want is a read on a person, I shall NOT go back and reread every post they make, because of the likelihood of taking something

out of context, which you are so worried that I did with you.

You ping scum, I ping scum, we all ping scum... except Darthe, it seems. Defend yourself, sir!! 

[Tsukibana]

Clarification: A call upon Darthe to defend himself, not you.

[Tiinker]

Excellent. Got him back in the game.

 

Tiink, saying I'm looking at voting someone is not the same as actually voting. I can already tell that I'm not a fan of constant Vote/Unvote.

Thanks for calling my judgement into question. 'SIdes, I haven't actually started building a case. All I want is some reactions (which I got),

and some more activity (which I got). Worked for me. Putting up WoT is not my style. I prefer a much more organic "feel" for what a person is

doing/thinking, rather than a nit-pick over every single post. Sometimes, however, the post needs picking apart (like me thinking MIsh

claimed the "real" Lee, which BTW has real evidence now that we see Hallia's coroner report having a name on it) in order to figure out an

intent. If all I want is a read on a person, I shall NOT go back and reread every post they make, because of the likelihood of taking something

out of context, which you are so worried that I did with you.

You ping scum, I ping scum, we all ping scum... except Darthe, it seems. Defend yourself, sir!!

It's like you're trolling me...

[Nolder]

I guess no one wants to lynch Tiinker?

 

Ok, w/e. Me or Mills it is.

 

Unvote Vote Millon

[Darthe]

I'm catching up but the million lynch needs to stop now, as I have a few questions.

 

Until then, I prefer to unvote vote Nolder

[Nolder]

I'm catching up but the million lynch needs to stop now, as I have a few questions.

 

Until then, I prefer to unvote vote Nolder

Who died and made you king again?

[Tiinker]

And where your questions at?

[Darthe]

 

 

vote Hally

 

First one to reveal, obviously eager to start the game, scumster right there

 

And I'm eel...

 

 

watchin you althor. First to try to draw attention to someone else in an actual 'game on' fashion. I don't think everyone has even signed in yet and you're already goin at it. Goin to hold off on my vote for now until everyone is here.

 

 

 

Weekends are rough. Still here. On my phone and DM sucks on my phone. Lol. At a graduation now so I'll post my vote when I can. I still think Rand is scum. Didn't really react much to a possible vote as though he's just tryin to blow it off. Would make an official vote if I could format letters here.

 

 

 

This is the first time I have experienced a self vote. I just ignored it and took his explanation. I never really THOUGHT about it. After reading everyone's explanation though now I see why it was dumb. You really CAN'T dismiss anything anyone says in mafia can you? Lol.

I am near %100 certain I won't have access to a computer before deadline and I am on my phone and don't know how to format letters. But I would like to vote Rand.

Maybe if I write the code? [bold] VOTE RAND[/bold] is that it? Is it bold?

 

 

 

It helps to keep the pace going and clear confusion too. Although, and I am not sure it's a good idea to point it out cause it's going to make me look scummy, but the first game i ever played going after people who defend lurkers got us two mafia. Still lost that game lol but it drew them out. Since then I have always gone after lurkers. If you're town it would make sense to participate and not hide out on the side lines. It just seems suspicious to not participate.

 

So, night. Who wants to start a pool on whose goin down? Lol. Nol has been the most aggressive IMO so far. (No offense man). Whose been the most quiet? Is it okay to ask for an updated post count for a lazy arse? Lol Now if he goes down the finger will be pointed at me. Just trying to think what a good scum strategy would be. He could just be an aggressive town or scum hiding behind aggressive town (waytostatetheobvious) I know. Still trying to grasp how this goes. And I think I'll stop referencing how new I am because its starting to seem even scummy to me. Hahahaha

 

 

What's not to like about my play so far? yeah, I don't do quotes often because, like Mish on mobile.

 

I am going to use the new mafia thingy I learned this game with a FoS on Mish. You only voted Rand for a majority is counter productive. If you weren't sure hes was scum or town my bet would have been not to vote. We lost a town because of your want for a majority. Seemed opportunistic more than logical. Scum saw an opportunity and seized on it. Holding my vote where it is though to see if Tink does pick it up. *no offense sir*

 

 

Gibberish? Lol. Nice. I thought the arguments to take Rand out made sense. I have no basis of comparison for games or playing style. Rand doing the self vote thing seemed off to me. So I voted.

 

 

Maybe I'm inexperienced but it ticks me off when people are in multiple games. Thanks a lot. You're a vanilla town who is admittedly ditching your game. Appreciate the help. You spend most of your time explaining how busy and pre-occupied  and all that, then toss out an off handed vote for a lynch. Scum or not. Vote Mish. You are offering nothing and throwing in the towel and just throwing out fog with useless posts between what could be constructive posts.

 

Now for me, what did I say to tick of anyone's scumdar? Yeah, I am a bit spammy. My apologies. I just try to be active. I have difficulty building arguments okay? Sue me. I play mostly from my gut.

 

 

Is there ALWAYS A doc role with mafia? Is there a possibility hallia is protecting Dap and Peace by claiming they are all 3 town when, prior to that post, someone mentions in a game of 15 that there would likely be 3 mafia?

Sweet creator that was a lit of reading on the phone. Sorry for bein so absent all. Week ends are family time and I'm going to be going to a BBQ shortly but wanted to say get I'm here.

I am leaning more towards a boy named Tsu myself. Not for specific quotes but that he was going HARD at Mish for a hot minute and then........lets look at someone else. Tsuki, do you think your argument that Mish was scum was strong enough for a lynch if you had kept going with it? Why go through all that work to target her and then drop it? It confuses me. It seems like, for a basic mafia game, that you're posting so much on a lead you had no intention of doing anything with just to crowd out inexperienced players. I'm not defending Mish just want you to clarify why you dropped your lead.

 

 

Damn phone! Dice would have been hammered hours ago if my post would have counted. Wasn't able to get my formatting in there. Sorry all. Just means no one is reading ym posts. Which could be bad. lol Either everyone has made up there mind I am scum and they are justtaking there time or I am just a really ineffectual player.  Not the most productive sure but come on. i think I'vee offered SOMETHING. I hope.

 

 

I would love to hear how i ping scum. lol

 

 

So, a Dr. can, in certain games, protect themselves? Can they protect the same person more than once? Could she have protected herself or does it mean she used her protect on the Cop who has, I think, one more 'shot' left?

 

Damn it! Had a post and it was eaten. Does a cop only see if they are scum or town or does it reveal a role as well? If they come up scum why do we have to lynch right away? Is it a rule that mafia must be lynched upon reveal? If it shows they are scum without a role couldn't we just let them hang until we are certain of the rest of the scum and then lynch them? Also, I am not sure on why you wouldn't reveal town. Scum already know who town is so it's not like you're holding back information. I would sayreveal town so we know we are not arguing down a false trail and concentrate on the unconfirmed. Can someone clarify why town should not be revealed?

 

 

Here.  Millon, these were the posts quoted in the case against you.  So far as any of us are aware we have no way to garner more information in this game and thus if you know you are town then your goal should be to stay alive in the hopes of killing one of the others who you feel are not town.  However, you have failed to do this.  Four others live, two of which must be scum unless a godfather exists.  

 

With these thoughts in mind, I have to question why you aren't pushing any of the others? Why instead you have become absorbed with your own death.  

Further, I would love to hear Millons thoughts on each of the four people (including myself) in full and if not a response in full to each point of the case against him then at least the thoughts behind each of these posts (hence why they are quoted above with blank space).  Most importantly, I am interested in the bolded segments.

 

 After all, if I can find another two townies then I know who the mafia are.  I mean, you know, the one besides Tsuki.

[peacesells]

lol Darthe on that last line.

 

I think that is a good post.  Millon you would do well to address what he asks.  It is a pro town move.

[Tyler Glembo]

CURRENT VOTE COUNT

 

Nolder (2) - Peace, Darthe

Millon (5) - Tiinker, Dap, RTE, Misheru, Nolder

Tsuki (1), Millon

 

Not Voting (2): Tsuki, CSarmi

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch 

 

Deadline

: The Deadline will be Saturday at Noon EST (US). Countdown: http://www.timeandda...ragon Mafia: D4

[Darthe]

Swear to god if Csarmi comes in and screws this up...

[dapianoplay3r]

Mish, Tsuki and Nolder.  2 of 3 imo.

 

Yup

 

Darthe. Lets hope he doesn't ay