[Basic]: Girls Gone Wild Mafia

[wheeloftime13]

*hugs hallia* welcome back... :D

[Basel Gill]

Welcome back, Hally.

[michellem]

*hugs Hally*

[dapianoplay3r]

Glad you are we'll

[Hallia]

Thank you all so very much  I'm worn out, but this is what has stood out to me so far.

 

 

 

 

Darthe, you are saying Time is scum cause she hasn't posted?

 

Absolutely not!  I am saying that  Time may be mafia because she did post.  Completely different.

You've posted much more.  So, by your standards it is much more likely you are scum.

 

Not even remotely.  That's just silly, Peace.  By that logic all of the highest posters in the game would be the scum team.  Does that make any sense to you?

 

Answer these questions and think critically.  

 

Are the highest posters in a game the mafia by neccessity?

 

Are the lowest?

 

Is there a correlative trend between post amount and alignment in general?

 

What about for individuals?

 

 

 

See, all that I have done is taken a standard bias that most agree with, which is "Inactives should be lynched because they make mafia easier to hide." and added a stipulation to it.  I stated that mafia are likely to post early in the game and then to fall into this pattern.  

 

The goal of this was, of course, to get early reads.  Beyond that it was to change the standard of how mafia react to early game plays.  Thus, the product is that at least a mafia member has been forced into posting an obscene amount for this period of the game.

 

And... after reviewing the number of posters so far we can, with relative safety, assume that either myself, Dap, or Peace is mafia.  

 

I agree with Darthe here.  

 

okay so the only thing that people are really getting on is that Darthe thinks it suspicious that I posted to check in even though I said I wasn't really going to be active until the 27th... I said that I wasn't going to be really active, and checking in helps get the game started and is usually a short post that doesn't involve me taking notes on...

second, people are getting on Darthe because he got on me... while I can see their reasoning that it could be mafia trying to get an easy town lynch, this early on and with Darthe's experience, I think it highly unlikely that's the case...

 

Time makes a good point here.  I think both Time and Darthe are town, but the others that joined on the lynch are on my suspicious list for being opportunistic.

 

 

Peace it's a weak thing you are clinging too

Kaylee I agree but they can be either so whatever

Explain why it's weak. 

 

Am I clinging to 1 weak thing or 2 weak things?  His bogus case on Time or his fake vote on me...or both?

 

I think he just overlooked it.  I've seen it (and done it once or twice) several times before.

 

unvote vote Darthe

I will see you lynched. I'm not playing with people who won't give the basic courtesy of calling another player by his name. My vote is final and won't change. I'll vote you until you're dead. Simply put.

 

Up until your claim, I was pretty suspicious of this statement.  You wouldn't change it? Even if he were to claim a power role? That's odd.

 

Alright, with this sort of inactivity that's high enough.

 

If you want to play it like this, fine, I'm game.

 

I'm the Healer.

 

And even though he corrected himself afterwards, I find this suspicious.  It's really easy to backpedal once people said something about the role being called Doc and say "oh yeah, that's what my role pm says >.>" 

[michellem]

Good post Hallia, you're really starting to become a good player now!

[Hallia]

Practice practice practice. XD  That means a lot coming from you though, I hold you up as one of the really good players.

[dapianoplay3r]

That's why I tried to get him to say it quickly before he could look it up with his mafia buddies if he was lying

 

If he was to flip mafia we should look to those who call docs healers. Long way away but worth having in the back if our minds use incase

[Hallia]

*nodnod* That is a good point.

[michellem]

Thank you Hallia, but I'm really not I'm average at best.

[peacesells]

Classic in my opinion refers to consistency in meta, regardless of alignment.  Some things are typical as town and some are typical as mafia.  Prodding for emotional response is typical for peace as mafia based on my meta of him, as town he prefers to prod emotionally himself and see if people attack him for it.

 

I would not mind a Peace lynch, Time I am wary of still because other reactions have WIFOM'd her, and Vambram I am also okay with.

 

Past that Basel Dap myself Csarmi Kaylee and mish are all townie to me currently and Hally is once more not here... 

 

Explain the bold Darthe cause it looks like you are saying the same thing twice catching me at both ends.  You've done this several times.  It's manipulative.  On top of that you look to gain friends/support by naming several players as town.  Also emotionally manipulative as you are trying to curry favor from Dap, Csarmi, Kaylee and Mish.  Enough people to lead a speed lynch on me Monday.  You are sharp enough to know that a speed lynch is going to be between you and me and you are setting the tone for my neck to be at the end of the rope. 

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE DARTHE.

[dapianoplay3r]

So how is what you are doing any better than what he is doing peace?

[peacesells]

So how is what you are doing any better than what he is doing peace?

 

Explain what I am doing compared to what he is doing? 

[dapianoplay3r]

You are sharp enough to know that a speed lynch is going to be between you and me and you are setting the tone for my neck to be at the end of the rope. 

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE DARTHE.

You are doing exactly what he's doing, he's trying to make sure the lynch is on you, you're trying to make sure it's on him

You are both trying to curry favour to save yourself

[peacesells]

No...I've cased him without cowtowing to the other players.  I've been direct with my statements and he's been manipulative.  He's also talked out of both sides of his mouth.

 

Dap..do me a favor and do one of your cases on Darthe.  I think you will see what I mean.

 

Also, If I am scum...don't you think I'd be going after Vambram instead of Darthe?  Others have already supported Darthe...he's a horrible target for me to go after if I'm scum.  Vam would be much easier to get lynched. 

[dapianoplay3r]

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/80711-basic-girls-gone-wild-mafia/?p=2854515

 

When I read through everything I came up with a town read in Darthe

 

What if my case shows him to be town? What if I did a case on you instead?

[peacesells]

Sure..case me. Surprised you haven't already.

 

BTW I am Aang. (Avatar - The last airbender.)  Not giving up any role information though. 

 

 

Also, on Darthe..you don't consider his play very manipulative?  Picking phrases to get other players to go along with him or see him favorably?  Seems pretty obvious to me.

[peacesells]

Dap...let me ask you this question.

 

If I were to be lynched to day and flip town, what you your opinion of Darthe be then? 

[peacesells]

Gonna run through WOT's posts just a get a bearing on her since I was by defaut defending her when going after Darthe.

 

just checking in...

We know before this point that's all she was gonna do.

 

ok... so after a long week of school stuffs and a doctor appointment tonight, I am finally catching up!!!

 

Confirmation she is back.

 

okay so the only thing that people are really getting on is that Darthe thinks it suspicious that I posted to check in even though I said I wasn't really going to be active until the 27th... I said that I wasn't going to be really active, and checking in helps get the game started and is usually a short post that doesn't involve me taking notes on...

second, people are getting on Darthe because he got on me... while I can see their reasoning that it could be mafia trying to get an easy town lynch, this early on and with Darthe's experience, I think it highly unlikely that's the case...

introduces wifom with the experience take.  imo, a good player can manipulate many types of situations.  darthe, imo, was doing a mynd fake.

 

I think it is off about Peace getting on Darthe, but it could just be pressure that he uses when he plays normally... I think that as a new player, Via is doing well, but I have to say that I somewhat disagree with her reasoning for her vote... on day one, people come and go and usually wait for someone else to talk before saying something... or they have nothing to say... I do agree that he needed prodding though...

Bold, kind of a fence sitting post.  Not sure there is any kind of read there.  The rest is a slight defense of Vam.  May come into play later in the game.

 

 

 

I think it is off about Peace getting on Darthe, but it could just be pressure that he uses when he plays normally... I think that as a new player, Via is doing well, but I have to say that I somewhat disagree with her reasoning for her vote... on day one, people come and go and usually wait for someone else to talk before saying something... or they have nothing to say... I do agree that he needed prodding though...

 

This sounds like a bit of fence-sitting to me. Vote Time.

it wasn't intended as fence-sitting, i am pointing out both of the possibilities that i see and my opinions on both of them... and I did say that he needed prodding and that I agree with Via about that...

 

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I think it is off about Peace getting on Darthe, but it could just be pressure that he uses when he plays normally... I think that as a new player, Via is doing well, but I have to say that I somewhat disagree with her reasoning for her vote... on day one, people come and go and usually wait for someone else to talk before saying something... or they have nothing to say... I do agree that he needed prodding though...

 

What was this?  Is it like a read or something?  I am having a tough time deciphering your feelings and intentions right now.

 

not a read... and my feelings were that while I understood her wanting to prod Vam, I think that because of Day 1, it was a bit too quick to do that... however, I do agree with her that Vam needed to be prodded, and now that the game's been going on for a while, he should start showing up more, and I do find him slightly scummy at this point...

 

The fence sitting was pointed out by Basel and she responded to it well I think.  Then the Vam thing.  Agreeing again that he needed prodding then predicting he would post more.  Possibly a hint she'd be pushing him in the QT if they are both mafia.  It's thin reasoning at this point though.  Again, something to hold on to for later in the game.

 

I have a question for you csarmi.... if this isn't your first game, shouldn't you know what to expect from other players?? and if you do, and you get emotional about it, then why don't you have a way to cope with it without making it seem like you are overreacting??

lol..read this post and to me I picture her sitting in a chair with a notepad in her hand.  Csarmi is lying on the couch.  "so...tell me about your problems."

This isn't really a game related post in my opinion.  Not sure how the game moves along with any answer to this question.  Null tell.

 

why exactly do you think I wouldn't be an awful candidate for a lynch Darthe??

Legit question. 

 

I just find csarmi's posts a bit over aggressive as well as some of them kinda rude... I'd rather have someone who makes a little bit of a slip up than someone who makes a big one, and at the moment, Darthe has only made a small one... and his reason for voting him at first was because he didn't call him by his name.... and he got mad at it being pointed out that he could be lying... a) he's either not enjoying the possibility of getting caught at it and has become over aggressive to make it seem like he's town that's just acting over aggressive, or he's town that finds even the smallest insult or mafia plan in almost everything... right now I'm inclined to think he's mafia especially because of his bogus reason for voting Darthe...

 

vote csarmi

Not sure if I agree with her reasoning here, but I can see it from a town player.  Also, she thinks that Darthe made a small slip.  She never hinted that she thought so previously when addressing Darthe.  Slight scum feel based on the Darthe slip comment.

 

okay then... unvote

Unvotes Csarmi after reveal.  Only choice, null tell. 

 

At worst..I read Tina so far as the very slightest of scum.  Which in the end really means nothing.  The good part is that there are some nice statements that can be referred back to later in the game.  Hope people remember them. 

[Darthe]

No...I've cased him without cowtowing to the other players.  I've been direct with my statements and he's been manipulative.  He's also talked out of both sides of his mouth.

 

Dap..do me a favor and do one of your cases on Darthe.  I think you will see what I mean.

 

Also, If I am scum...don't you think I'd be going after Vambram instead of Darthe?  Others have already supported Darthe...he's a horrible target for me to go after if I'm scum.  Vam would be much easier to get lynched. 

 

This requires Vambram to be town.  Do you know that Vam is town?  This entire post is really scummy to me.

 

Sure..case me. Surprised you haven't already.

 

BTW I am Aang. (Avatar - The last airbender.)  Not giving up any role information though. 

 

 

Also, on Darthe..you don't consider his play very manipulative?  Picking phrases to get other players to go along with him or see him favorably?  Seems pretty obvious to me.

 

Is Aang female?

[peacesells]

no..he's a boy.  Haven't seen the last airbender?

[peacesells]

 

No...I've cased him without cowtowing to the other players.  I've been direct with my statements and he's been manipulative.  He's also talked out of both sides of his mouth.

 

Dap..do me a favor and do one of your cases on Darthe.  I think you will see what I mean.

 

Also, If I am scum...don't you think I'd be going after Vambram instead of Darthe?  Others have already supported Darthe...he's a horrible target for me to go after if I'm scum.  Vam would be much easier to get lynched. 

 

This requires Vambram to be town.  Do you know that Vam is town?  This entire post is really scummy to me.

 

If I were scum, I'd know his alignment.  But, I see your point that if we are both scum, then I wouldn't go after him. 

[dapianoplay3r]

I want Vam to post his sources on that thing from a page or two back

 

Darthe would be less town like in my eyes but its not a lynchable offence

 

You are bugging me anyway peace, but your reveal is a bit premature don't you think?

[peacesells]

I want Vam to post his sources on that thing from a page or two back

 

Darthe would be less town like in my eyes but its not a lynchable offence

 

You are bugging me anyway peace, but your reveal is a bit premature don't you think?

 

And bugging you means what?  I've done nothing that should bug you.  Get over yourself.

 

My name reveal is the perfect time.  I'll be asleep during the day tomorrow.  We all know it's gonna be a last day run up. 

[Darthe]

So.. you're a boy in "Girl's gone wild" mafia..