Lanfear (Full Spoilers)

[Barid Bel Medar]

Events in the book and the mysteries that were off-screen. 

[Magus sedai]

To be honest I always hoped Cydane was Asmodean brought back I loved the "last chance" name and hoped Lanfear would find redemption, always felt this was coming with the fact of how often they show or mention how different her going to the shadow was, how she chose her own name, never really followed orders, was part of drilling the bore, her aiel was rands ancestor

[F Horn of Valere]

I felt like her early scenes with Rand built up to nothing, but I am kind of glad. The last thing I wanted was another scene where gullible Rand gives in to Lady Selene's charm, so I'm glad that plotline was avoided.

 

Her interaction with Perrin was... interesting. Not sure my opinion on it though, at least not yet. I'll have to do a reread to figure that out, now that I have a better idea of her end-goal with him.

[Danjaman]

Has anyone played Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess? I found that Lanfear was a perfect Midna to Perrin's Link. I, for one, liked their relationship and actually believed she was sincere. Her death was awesome.

[Arran]

Has anyone played Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess? I found that Lanfear was a perfect Midna to Perrin's Link. I, for one, liked their relationship and actually believed she was sincere. Her death was awesome.

Such a great game, although I never got to complete it. But I see what you mean. I also thought she was sincere up until it became apparent that she'd used Compulsion on him!

[Suttree]

To be honest I always hoped Cydane was Asmodean brought back I loved the "last chance" name and hoped Lanfear would find redemption, always felt this was coming with the fact of how often they show or mention how different her going to the shadow was, how she chose her own name, never really followed orders, was part of drilling the bore, her aiel was rands ancestor

Cyndane was Asmodean? It was pretty clear very early on who she was and it was totally confirmed as of Winters Heart.

 

Also I'm always confused when people say they thought redemption was coming for Lanfear. From day 1 we are told power is her driving motivation. She never truly loved LTT, she just like the prestige of being his partner. RJ called it "laughable" that she would do anything good for Rand's sake. In an age in which self sacrifice was cherished above all she failed to earn the third name despite being the most powerful woman channeler alive. We also know that she was not twisted in any way by the bore project, she was "ripe for the shadows plucking" long before. In fact she was the only person involved with the project to go over to the Shadow. It would have been totally against every shred of information we know about her to all of sudden about face and return to the light for unselfish reasons.

[Magus sedai]

Oh I agree I just thought it would make a nice surprise one final twist, one final lure to trap rand I hoped that was coming after that strange dream scene at the end of ToM before AMoL came out wasn't trying to say I didn't know Cydane was Lanfear I just hoped they would do something with her, maybe I missed it but did they ever say Gran used balefire on Asmodean I always wondered why he wasn't brought back some insight would be welcome

[Rhienne]

I thought her attatchment to Perrin was a bit late in the day, but I suppose semi-plausible given he had become one of the top 3 in terms of strength in TAR.  He just didn't seem glamorous enough or prominent enough in the real world for Lanfear to take any interest in him.

 

I was glad Perrin killed her, and even in a kind of brutal way.  After a series where all three male leads have continually and painfully struggled with killing women, the fact that Perrin ends up just snapping her neck without much pause for thought was satisfying.  It seemed kind of like Perrin finally realised that women could be just as evil and dangerous as men, and that sometimes death was the only way to deal with them too.  The scene was a little bit abrupt, but then, I found quite a lot of scenes too abrupt for my liking in AMoL.

[Disco]

I thought I knew exactly what happened

 

- her interaction with rand about their being more to things

- telling Perrin that 'some say those who are turned are dead already... Some say'

- that those who are supremely good when turned become supremely bad... Those mildy good become mildy bad'

 

I was SURE I knew what was coming...

 

That she was turned. That she was never that good, loved power not the light, but that didn't make her evil. So she become mildy evil. And then had to watch her friends & family say 'of course she'd go over to him'

 

So she just embraced it. And maybe she did wear LTT like an ornament, but she loved him in her own way. Whatever happened to her in her life, she couldn't make herself vulnerable, not to love, and not to show rand really what happened in TRR.

 

I thought she wasn't originally evil, just turned and betrayed.

 

Then her last scene with Perrin... Damn! It was such a good theory that explained everything!

[Entreri]

She is small minded like Demandred, good to see Perrin kill her, always thinking that she is greater than she was. 

 

More like LTT wore her like an ornament.  Powerful men do have trophy wives (plus many mistresses of course), what is more trophy than the most beautiful woman in the world? Then he dumps her for Ilyena.  That is BOSS.

[PhoenixUK]

I was glad Perrin killed her, and even in a kind of brutal way.  After a series where all three male leads have continually and painfully struggled with killing women, the fact that Perrin ends up just snapping her neck without much pause for thought was satisfying.  It seemed kind of like Perrin finally realised that women could be just as evil and dangerous as men, and that sometimes death was the only way to deal with them too.  .

Yes that realisation was long overdue. I wonder if LTT ever had that problem in his own era?

 

Lanfear's arc was initially great but after TFOH it kinda petered out. She hung about as cyndane, giving Moridin dirty looks and that was about it. As already said, I am glad that rand  did not fall for her routine a second time. I guess she played to form, waiting until the best moment to use events to her advantage. All of creation is at risk, and she still plays the gambit to let the Dark One be at verge of defeat before stepping in to help him. Not sure how i feel about it being Perrin to kill her, they didnt really fit together v well but not sure who else it should have been. Moiraine?

[Disco]

She also told Perrin that killing 'men' in TRR doesn't remove them from the pattern

 

Did she mean

 

A) women it does, men it doesn't

B) humans don't get removed , therefore she may still be around

C) she was lying and now gone for good

[Entreri]

 

I was glad Perrin killed her, and even in a kind of brutal way.  After a series where all three male leads have continually and painfully struggled with killing women, the fact that Perrin ends up just snapping her neck without much pause for thought was satisfying.  It seemed kind of like Perrin finally realised that women could be just as evil and dangerous as men, and that sometimes death was the only way to deal with them too.  .

Yes that realisation was long overdue. I wonder if LTT ever had that problem in his own era?

 

Lanfear's arc was initially great but after TFOH it kinda petered out. She hung about as cyndane, giving Moridin dirty looks and that was about it. As already said, I am glad that rand  did not fall for her routine a second time. I guess she played to form, waiting until the best moment to use events to her advantage. All of creation is at risk, and she still plays the gambit to let the Dark One be at verge of defeat before stepping in to help him. Not sure how i feel about it being Perrin to kill her, they didnt really fit together v well but not sure who else it should have been. Moiraine?

 

Since the Light siders were no longer using balefire, Moraine would have trouble, but anything is possible, poetic justice of Moraine killing her? Rand Sedai would be able to spank her quickly before she can run to TAR. Too bad he did not.