[Advanced] Bloodlust Mafia Game Over!

[Darthe]

 

Smiley tossed out:

I would suppose meta analysis is also fine, but all read and understood

 

And Darthe retorted:

 

Meta is totally cool by me.

 

Smiley decided that this whole 3rd person thing might be an easy way to get on people's nerves

 

Darthe contemplated abusing his moderator powers to convince Smiley to rectify his sentence 

 

 But then decided better. 

[michellem]

In a more obvious example, if a player was to state that they would be on VLA and then continue to posted elsewhere, I wouldn't kill them or punish you.  That was simple stupidity on their part.

 

 

If anyone was stupid enough to do that... *shakes head*

[_CLOUD]

Lenlo flipped mafia day doc. So his job was to protect the vamps from day kills from vigs. I would wager all the town vig shots are day. I would also wager there are more out there. Not sure if 2 would be enough to have a doc to offset.

 

I still think that tress or possibly Kaylee is best way to go today. I highly doubt that all the mafia were on the hoof lynch. They are the most likely based on numbers.

 

I really don't like the people saying town can afford to mislynch today. How do you know? We are down 5 town for 1 mafia, with the high possibility of recruiting.

Even Darthe has said times were getting desperate.

 

Finally, cloud, why are you unwilling to die for town? If you are town and your death gives confirmation to your results it will help town considerably.

 

Simply because it will allow the mafia to reach a majority faster. I have already stated my reasonings a couple of times before. We are close to lynching mafia members and you guys keep getting sidetracked. 

 

Because it wasn't supposed to be delivered till Friday and I have booked Monday off. But then I got an email on Monday saying it had been shipped and would arrive on Tuesday - which is my Regular Day Off.

 

Plus, if I had got it delivered to home, and it didn't fit through the letter box - and looking at it I do not think that it would - then it would not be left and I would just have a card saying call this number to have it redelivered in 48 hours. And then it would disappear into the abyss known as the Bradford East Sorting Office, never to be seen again. At least if stuff comes here I know I'm going to get it.

 

I think an isolation posty thing on Turin's alternative candidates for Lynch would be a good idea. I think Cloud should do it if he wants to make a case for staying alive lol. You can bring up people's actual posts on the DM search thingy if you use the wheel icon and select the forum and the times in between you are searching for and then click view as posts - but it would bring up all of the posts made by that person in that forum during that time period.

 

haha very funny >.>

 

That seems like all of them. So a vote and case on Dice, a non explained vote for Len, and then back on me, who was previously Dice.

 

On the Dice/Ithi votes she does give reasons, but on the Len vote it is pure bandwagoning. And he did turn out to be Mafia.

 

So when she is voting for someone I know to be Town she will provide a case, but on a Mafia Vote it is just pure Wombat. Interesting.

 

See. 

[_CLOUD]

Also I'm not taking Ishy serious if he keeps refusing to build a case on me.

[Smiley73]

he is not refusing to build it, but neglecting to direct us to it, if I understand him correctly

[John E. Kelley]

Also I'm not taking Ishy serious if he keeps refusing to build a case on me.

 

Dying scum needs to die. Panda next.

[_CLOUD]

lol

[_CLOUD]

he is not refusing to build it, but neglecting to direct us to it, if I understand him correctly

 

Yeah a case from D1 and D2. Not really relevant now is it? 

[John E. Kelley]

If you were scum then, you're scum now. Very relevant.

[_CLOUD]

If you found me to be scum then why didn't you advocate for my lynch before? 

[John E. Kelley]

If you found me to be scum then why didn't you advocate for my lynch before? 

 

LOL!! Never advocated for your lynch before now?? Are you even playing the same game the rest of us are? The amount of fail in your question is staggering.

[Turin Turambar]

If you found me to be scum then why didn't you advocate for my lynch before?

Funniest post ever. He has been advocating your lynch pretty much the entire game. I can't go back to look but IIRC the day 1 case was pretty weak. Don't remember the day 2 stuff. Maybe check tonight.

 

Although I think the tress posts reinforce her as mafia. She hasn't posted much and the bandwagon onto Lenlo with the Wombat jokes thrown in looks like someone that can bus like a pro. She couldn't be as silent as you say she would be Ishy cause LZM was that quiet. No lurking when you replace a lurker.

 

We still have a day left, right.

 

Maybe a vig can just shoot/stab one and we can lynch the other.

[John E. Kelley]

I can see why you might think that about Tress Turin, but just as you're an expert on Ithi's play, so am I with Tress. I'd stake my reputation that she's Town. You're of course, welcome to disagree, but I'm completely confident in her alignment. I wasn't during the LZM persona, but since she replaced in, I'm convinced. Cloud and Panda are our guys. And perhaps a recruit from before Len was lynched.

[Basel Gill]

Despo got killed. We don't know what the timescale for dying by poison is. You had a big to and fro with Turin about this remember?

 

Also - I just think that if Smiley thinks you are Mafia he should say so, instead of dancing around the subject and saying he is voting you for the greater good. Same re Mish and Basel.

 

 

This is suspicious. How do you know that any of us aren't voting Cloud for the greater good? Cloud might very well be town, but that doesn't make him any less worth lynching. We need to vet his results one way or the other, and the only really effective way to do that is determine if he is town. If he still had an ability it would be different, but he's out of power. I've said that I don't trust him; that isn't the same as saying he is scum. It just means I'm not convinced he is town. What I am convinced of is that lynching him will clear up the cloud of WIFOM we have here.

 

 

of course ... I was shown how to do it when I helped with the MoN's reports in the WT - but I can't use it here because I have to stay in stealth mobile mode at work, and I still have no wifi at home

 

that is sad, well, I don't think I'll go and right all those quotes, but I think they should all be there

 

I think I would have found a way to mess up that wall of quotes even under the old quoting sytem.

[cosmicpanda]

Just a note to say I'm still around. I'm reading up from early in the game, so please bear with me. 

[Basel Gill]

Just a note to say I'm still around. I'm reading up from early in the game, so please bear with me. 

 

I see what you did there.

[John E. Kelley]

Just a note to say I'm still around. I'm reading up from early in the game, so please bear with me. 

 

Here, I'll make it easy for you. Start bussing Cloud now.

[cosmicpanda]

Ishy, you seem to have something against me. State your case or back off. Re-read still in progress. 

[John E. Kelley]

Nothing against you personally, it's all gameplay. My "something" that I'm against are the Mafia. Which you're a member of.

[cosmicpanda]

So you have no case. Right. 

 

(And yeah, I meant in terms of gameplay of course.)

[cosmicpanda]

I'm up to page 29, but now I have to go and do some stuff in town. I'm starting to get quite worried about this whole recruitment thing, which seems likely in a vampirism game but has been largely ignored.

[Red2111]

i'm on page 19, post #365, and i have to say wtf people.

 

you let Mish off easy with her blatant defense of Cloud and the scummiest person thus far int he game, Scummy Mc Scummerson Turin, has gone un-pressured so far.  then you have cheer McCheerleader Dice going un noticed for the most part as well.

 

i mean for crying out loud, all you guys focused on was Mynd, i have 5 pages of notes from D1 alone and only that few because i have a slew of corner reports that i dont have to second guess people on.  town you have played a very lazy game thus far and i have YET to see a proper case on anyone.  how do you lot expect to find scum this way?

 

/vent

 

 

VOTE: TURIN

 

my vote is subject to change as i'm not fully caught up, but right now what i'm seeing from Turin has me convinced hes scum enough to vote him with only half the game read.  

 

(disclaimer: my casing will be different than normal due to the crappy quoting system DM has and that i'm taking notes in Word as i read. so instead of quoting, i'm referencing the post # for majority of the casing)

 

 

#52: Turin ->

Vote Mynd

Spreading misinformation even in his distraction spam. It is almost universally being reported that Khan is NOT the villain in the upcoming Star Trek film

Lenlo, overeager. You are assuming cloud really did something vote Worthy. Mynd was being Mynd.

Ishy, drunk mafia on Tuesday?

Basel, you seem to be trying awfully hard to look town.

vote on Mynd reads as a Joke Vote; slides in two semi-serious FoS’s while using two non-serious accusations. and doesn’t mention Mish at all even though she’s the scummiest this far, in fact he defends her in a way. this post reeks.  another point, Len was pointing out Mishes defense of Cloud, whereas Turin is focusing on the two vote aspect instead.
 

#75: Turin ->

Cosmic, the game is less than 24 hours old, on page 3, with several players that have not checked in. There are several joke votes out at the moment. Lighten up.

rather defensive reaction there imo

 

#113: Turin -> WIFOMs Mynds train.  scumtastic!

 

 

#145: Turin ->

Where is Mynd anyway? This feels like his team told him to lay low and they are going to see if they can divert the town's attention elsewhere. The only way that would be worth it to them is if his role is really valuable to them.

Cosmic, initially my vote was because he pushed an extremely weak case like he was starting the game and then went back to spam (with misleading information. Khan is not in new ST film). Also because BG basically dared anyone to put a second vote on him. You can ask verb about me and dares.

I do find it extremely odd that Mynd has Such a large and vocal defense team. I think you will find mafia supporting him. I think he is also mafia and like my vote where it is.

I was hoping Despo would be the master vamp just for the irony. Then I could be on his case-let.,

bold - this i'm stunned to see posted. we all know Mynd, 1st off no scum team in their right mynd would tell Mynd to be quiet, and especially not after causing a ruckous like he has. #1 to get lynched and highlight himself imo. 2nd, Mynd would never listen to that "command" from team mates and would likely tell them to rightly stfu only nicer. i'm astonished Turin actually said this and even more so that no one appears to have called him out on this bullshanks.

and i wont even touch his bullshit reason for voting Mynd in the first place, which he agian affirms like its not a joke vote. he once again takes a shot at setting up lynching, only more subtly this time to reinforce his first WIFOM statement.

 

 

#289: Turin -> vote with no explanation.  regardless of the quickly approaching DL, this stinks, especially with a Mason claim.  its not the vote that pings, its the lack of comment on current events that does.

 

 

#289: Turin -> vote with no explanation.  regardless of the quickly approaching DL, this stinks, especially with a Mason claim.  its not the vote that pings, its the lack of comment on current events that does.

 

#292: Len -> Mafia comes into hammer the townie with no comment as well not even 10 minutes after Turins vote.  which condemns Turins vote even more imo

 

#304: Turin -> goes hard core agaisnt the mason claim and posts this gem

“The only reason I voted too was that hoof voted himself which signaled to me either he was mafia(unlikely) or he was vanilla sacrificing himself to prevent a random.”

conveniently after Hoof’s death scene.  

 

#330: Turin -> first to mention recruiting.  not as a guess but as fact.  uses this to continue to cast doubt on the mason claim.

 

#351: Turin -> continues to push the recruit aspect

 

#352: Turin ->

Mynd had his 6th vote on the 20th, more than 3 days before deadline. No more votes until 13 hours from deadline. Only change from that time was that Hoof train built up. then three late votes as deadline approached. Ishy claims with about 10 hours left. Hoof only other real chance for consolidation. I still say this is poor play if town and more likely mafia play as last resort when votes didn't fall off earlier.

more pressure on the late claim.  tbh, this is a damned if you do, damned if you dont situation.  and i have a feeling Turin would be trying to discredit the reveal regardless of when Ishy revealed.
 

#355: Turin -> stats his role PM gave him the info, and is sure to clarify he isn’t a recruiter.  if the info was gained from his role PM, why wait until now to bring up the info and only then to use it to discredit a mason team?

 

#357: Turin ->  now thats classic  “Do you really blindly follow the mason claim? Why don't you just go ahead and tell us you are mafia Rand?”

so you chide a person for blindly not questioning a mason claim, given the possibility of scum claiming Mason is small seeing as theres more chance than benefit in the fake claim; yet you expect people to follow your claim of recruiting in the game when the only proof is “in your role PM”

classic turin, classic.

 

#358: Turin -> cause if you were the recruiter you’d totally come clean and out yourself :eyeroll: ofcourse your claiming not to be the recruiter, even though you happen to have this inside info that no one else apparently has.  what pings is that you felt the need to clarify this, its almost like you’re over compensating on this.

 

 

and then the post that convinced me to go ahead and post my case.  in this quote hes responding to Rand.

 

#365: Turin ->

So you are saying that even if Mynd (and by extension Ishy) is mafia that my play of not believing them is anti-town. I don't see how lynching mafia is anti- town. I kinda thought that was the entire job of the town. That you have no knowledge of their alignment and yet are defending them so hard makes me very suspicious of you. as does the incorrect information you are pushing in your reason for voting me. There is no way that my vote could in any reasonable mind be categorized as a OMGUS. Iam not trying to instill fear about recruiting. I think that information of that sort is better put into the town's hands so that someone viewed N1 as clean is not assumed to be clean D3. To hold that back would be anti-town in my opinion. Trying to knock out masons with a lynch?

 

he reasons are not wrong for voting you, had i been in the game id be voting you too and if Mynd didn't have computer problems you wouldn't have had free reign in this absurdness.

 

your vote on Mynd  IS an OMGUS. you ARE trying to instill fear (as well as chaos and mistrust and doubt on the finder) with this recruiting nonsense.

and your reasoning for pressuring rand are contradictory as you are expecting people to follow you blindly on this recruiting stuff.

 

if your telling the truth about the recruitment, which at this point i doubt, given all i have to go on at this point is your word *snort* then why not come striaght out with it eh?  why wait to reveal this so called info when its conveniently being used in your case to discredit and push a lynch on outted masons?  using it as a reason to KEEP pushing a lynch on me or Ishy even if/when a finder clears us.  

 

your scummy, your setting up lynching and making moves to discredit the finder.  if there is a recruiting element in this game, my money is on you being the recruiter.  a scums best case is always laced with truth Turin and you stink a mile away.

 

 

 

 

Who says they are masons? they do.

 

gee, like your claim of there being recruiting in the game.  you sure must have one hell of a bill for window replacement living in that glass house of yours and throwing all sorts of stone.

 

 

 

doI believe it? not at the present. it is just as likely that Mynd meant to jump out take some heat on Day 1, slide by it by getting someone else lynched without having to make a claim and then let the heat disiipate chalking it up to Day 1 Mynd shenanigans. He certainly had enough defenders. Including you that voted Peace who was a Mynd detractor and as we now know was town.

 

and now you use a confirmed townie to give traction and beef up your bogus push against outted masons.  nice scum move there, tell me did you guys NK him for this reason or was it just lucky happenstance? 

 

To equate a mason claim with an un-cc'ed cop claim is a bit off IMO. Especially a mason claim in these circumstances.

 

i semi agree, but i also agree that its more scummier to push to lynch on outted masons without a cop saying otherwise on their claim.  scum have less to gain by fake claiming masons, especially when one draws as much heat as Mynd and the other partner cheerleads without question the way Ishy did.  not unheard of, but very unlikely, becuase it essentially gives the town 2 for one.  scum gain much more by pushing hard to get one of the masons lynch, even if it lands in them being lynched as well.

 

They had THREE DAYS to claim when it was not looking like it was going to produce what they wanted.

 

your going on the assumption that Mynd and Ishy rehearsed this entire thing, which isnt what happened.  Mynd started his normal antics, his computer screwed him over not allowing him to follow through on his plan and Ishy had to scramble to do damage control.  and btw, i have a feelign that if they had claimed sooner youd still be harping abotu the claim being false, instead saying "they claimed too early"  

 

i agree with Ishy waiting as logn as he did.  in hopes Mynd would be able to get back on and because the Hoof thing, while a late train was garnering alot of info aside from the info already available from Mynds train.  had he claimed earlier, some good info on you alone would have been lost, among others.

 

 

 

It has been repeated time and again that masons are the one type of power role that can generally get away with claimingearly as mafia is afraid to NK them early on as it vets the unkilled partner and provides additional informationto the town. You may also notice that neither of them died last night although someone that was doubtful of their claim did. Kinda funny the mafia killed the miller. but that is another story.

 

and i disagree with your opinon on Masons being golden on claiming.

 

pretty funny that the scummiest person of the game comes out of the gate swinging at their claim when the most vocal against them was Nkd.  smells a bit too convenient imo

 

even funnier when said person uses peace to support his push against the masons.

 

 

 

case tbc...  i'm sure theres more to come from this scummy mcscummerson

[Turin Turambar]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

 

You will see there is no regular cop this game. There are some with one shots and there is BG with his gunsmith role. He has already viewed me as innocent(no gun/fangs) Good job taking over for Mynd with his push against me tho. Enjoy yourself.

 

I love the myriad ways you managed to use the word scum in your case fantasy..

 

Carry on. I need to read something funny. I'll let you finish of course. It would be rude not to.

[Red2111]

and when did BG "clear you Turin? 

 

post #366: BG ->

 

If there is a recruiter, we will deal with it later. For now, stop voting Mynd or Ishy. It's a stupid lynch option.


I have a very good reason to think the Mason claim is true. One may be turned at some point but if you are basing your lynch on Day 1, you will be wrong.

 

 

because if its after the post quoted above his viewings were likely messed with if he got a town viewing or whatever on you.  that alone quote alone is obvious that he had a viewing role and viewed either Mynd or Ishy and got a non-scum reading on them.

 

so his clearing you after this hint says nothign for your alignment imo as your actions are way too scummy to not be scum.

[Songstress]

Finished with AMOL about 4:45 this morning.  After two consecutive nights of less than 3 hours sleep, I'm about to pass out.

 

Before I do, I'd like to throw a great big FOS on everyone who's been discussing just how scummy I am without voting me.

 

You know I'm town, you know when I die it'll just make you look bad, so you're waiting on someone else to take the lead to get me out of your way.

 

Ishy luv, you're sure about Cloud?