[ADVANCED] KaeKey Game of Thrones Mafia - GAME OVER! NIGHT'S WATCH WINS!

[JenLenaMom]

Cult doesn't usually work like that, Rand.

[keyholder21]

@ Key & Kae... I adore the death scene.

 

Oh! And go Night's Watch!

Just want to thank Key for doing such awesome scenes. Those are my weak spot, and she's filling that void wonderfully. you sis

 

Aw, to you both! I am glad you are enjoying the scenes :happy:.

[RandA lThor]

Cult doesn't usually work like that, Rand.

 

Really? I thought it was pretty common to only be able to recruit certain people.

[michellem]

Yeah in the story Jon Snow becomes a member of the Nights Watch, that is what Red 1.0 was referring to.

 

Yes, but like I said, I never got any notice that I was in the Night's Watch this game, I was only told town. We didn't see Tress flip "Night's Watch" either. Just Cult leader, cult alignment. I honestly would have expected the White Walkers or that one rogue NW guy that you never actually get to see in season 2 to be the cult if there were one.

 

I didn't say I thought that was the case, I only answered Rands question.

[RandA lThor]

And my thoughts on that Ep are that they wouldn't tell you you were night watch until you got recruited. Mods do that some games, not bastard modding at all.

[bgrishinko]

Cult doesn't usually work like that, Rand.

 

Really? I thought it was pretty common to only be able to recruit certain people.

 

Generally no. Standard cults can recruit any town and they generally will lose their power at that point... though the losing power part isn't always true. Some cults can even recruit mafia.

[RandA lThor]

Wait,the cult only gets 1 recruit?

[bgrishinko]

Sorry that was ambiguous: The person who was recruited generally loses their power.

[Sakaea]

Mod Note: the cult is the Night's Watch. Just to be clear.

[JenLenaMom]

Wait,the cult only gets 1 recruit?

No usually the cult's win condition is to have a voting majority. The sometimes may get recruit attempts every other night, but maybe every night. But usually one per night.

[bgrishinko]

I'm going off the assumption people would lose their ability if recruited, which is a total guess, but its the best I've got to work with and is the normal way I've seen cults work.

 

Verb, would you know if you were blocked all 3 nights? Simple Yes or No is sufficient.

Same for Despo for last night.

 

There is some fudge space here though because of the RBer.

 

Ishy said he motivated EP again N3, which should mean EP gets doubled again tonight. EP do you get two blocks tonight? You only mentioned 1 earlier.

 

Seriously though, reread through yesterday. When I voted Tress, she and Razen both had four votes, bussing her at that point would have been unneccesary.

 

You were called out for not voting for her even though you said you didn't like her. Slight distancing. You could see Ed had something. Therefore your vote placement is a null tell since you had to wait for Ed to prod you into voting.

 

Basel, still want to hear what you know about this. ^^^^

 

John Snow, speak up. You and EP are the most prime people to have been recruited. We know you were blocked earlier, so that speaks well of you to that point, but you've been far too quiet since then.

 

Where is Red? I know she's active on other places on DM. I've posted in threads she's posted in today. Quite active over in D&D this morning.

 

Kaylee - You were involved in Tress's dying WIFOM and have been too quiet. Plus it seems resonable that Tress would want to recruit you for completely meta reasons. Therefore you need to start speaking out.

 

Rand could be playing dumb about cult to drive away suspicion. He's pretty good about looking up new roles on his own normally.

[Gabriel Kross]

Right, but if I am correct, Tress' character is Night Watch associated and nothing else. That means that she probably could only recruit people who joined the night watch later, like you. And she knew who you were, so she probably recruited you. Very suspicious of you right now EP.

And my thoughts on that Ep are that they wouldn't tell you you were night watch until you got recruited. Mods do that some games, not bastard modding at all.

 

I don't think Rand's comments above were newbie related they strike me as off, opportunistic recruit maybe.

 

I'm going off the assumption people would lose their ability if recruited, which is a total guess, but its the best I've got to work with and is the normal way I've seen cults work.

 

Verb, would you know if you were blocked all 3 nights? Simple Yes or No is sufficient.

Same for Despo for last night.

 

There is some fudge space here though because of the RBer.

 

Ishy said he motivated EP again N3, which should mean EP gets doubled again tonight. EP do you get two blocks tonight? You only mentioned 1 earlier.

 

Seriously though, reread through yesterday. When I voted Tress, she and Razen both had four votes, bussing her at that point would have been unneccesary.

 

You were called out for not voting for her even though you said you didn't like her. Slight distancing. You could see Ed had something. Therefore your vote placement is a null tell since you had to wait for Ed to prod you into voting.

 

Basel, still want to hear what you know about this. ^^^^

 

John Snow, speak up. You and EP are the most prime people to have been recruited. We know you were blocked earlier, so that speaks well of you to that point, but you've been far too quiet since then.

 

Where is Red? I know she's active on other places on DM. I've posted in threads she's posted in today. Quite active over in D&D this morning.

 

Kaylee - You were involved in Tress's dying WIFOM and have been too quiet. Plus it seems resonable that Tress would want to recruit you for completely meta reasons. Therefore you need to start speaking out.

 

Rand could be playing dumb about cult to drive away suspicion. He's pretty good about looking up new roles on his own normally.

 

I cannot Jail 2 tonight, I've been over this previously, but I did not recieve motivation from night 3, being why I asked if John Snow was blocked. Again he has not responded, but I could have swore he posted at the start of day 4 right after my question so I will have to go back and look.

 

You guys probably won't believe me at this point when I tell you I haven't been recruited, but by going off the odds while we haven't loss as many town as we normally would visibly since our lynches have been pretty spot on, I would suspect we've lost quite a few behind the scenes. Seeing as Kae clarified that Tress was Night's Watch, that looks really bad on me but the only thing I can say is I'm not nor have I ever been Night's Watch this game.

[Gabriel Kross]

Anyone know what page day 4 started on?

[Gabriel Kross]

Happy anniversary, Des. Vote Ishy.

 

Why?

 

I'd also like to know if John Snow was blocked again. I do not want to know your role John, just if you were blocked. I have reasons to ask this.

 

Ok I found the question, but looks like John Snow has not posted since day started, we've either got a silencer in the game, or John Snow was recruited.

[bgrishinko]

Anyone know what page day 4 started on?

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/75295-advanced-kaekey-game-of-thrones-mafia-night-4/page__st__2120?do=findComment&comment=2623491

 

 

I was just looking back trying to find what you said about that, because I couldn't remember clearly what you said about 2 actions or not. Thanks EP for clarification.

[Gabriel Kross]

I had already found it by the time you responded BG :P

[ed2funy]

*waves bye to Tress*

Good riddance!

 

Well, that was an interesting day, indeed.

[dicetosser1]

ok let me get this straight

 

EP you have been getting doubled but didnt tonight. Ishy has been doing the doubling and it seems as picked noone other then you to double.

 

Now ishy says "trust me" and you DONT get doubled

 

Have i got thaqt straight??

[bgrishinko]

Maybe a better question is has anyone else gotten a doubled notification since EP didn't?

[Gabriel Kross]

ok let me get this straight

 

EP you have been getting doubled but didnt tonight. Ishy has been doing the doubling and it seems as picked noone other then you to double.

 

Now ishy says "trust me" and you DONT get doubled

 

Have i got thaqt straight??

 

Your post doesn't make any sense at all, and the way you so "gallantly" stuck up for Song earlier when Songstress aka Song aka Songtsie aka Tress really sits off, the only one that'd make sense to correct people other than Tress herself is Ishy. Why you made a big deal about it makes no sense since Song of Ice and Fire is not playing this game.

[Gabriel Kross]

For the record if anyone wants to know what my current thoughts on the doubling thing is I've already posted them. It's called reading, you should try it.

 

I got the feeling that Basel is the roleblocker from how he questioned me/Ishy earlier (that is under the assumption that Ishy is still town.)

[John E. Kelley]

N1, N2, and N3, I doubled EP. For the record, the role is Town Motivator. Yeah, I had never heard of it either. The way the role works, I pick a player that will have their NA for the following night doubled. So as it stands, EP should have had his NA doubled twice so far, and it will be doubled again tonight, due to me targetting him last night.

[Basel Gill]

Basically what you are getting at Basel is you are the rokeblocker and you are trying to set up me and Ishy by trying to say it was impossible for him to have doubled me ON night 3.

 

That's a strange leap of logic, since my intent here was simply to get some clarification on your comments. Your intial post to me really made it sound like you were doubled on N2 and N3, but not N1, which contradicted your interactions with Ishy earlier. But you cleared that up.

 

Oh shit.

That means there should be 3 more if she recruited each night.

And let's hope the recruit didn't pass on.

 

There could be fewer than 3. Don't some cults have the recruitment with a percentage to fail? That being said, I won't rest easy concerning the cult till we have eliminated 3.

 

Also, I'd like accountability from EP of his NA's at this point and what Basel thinks is odd about it.

 

Nothing, now that EP has mentioned he didn't get a doubling on N3. That just tells me that Ishy and EP have been likely telling the truth. I am Ser Jorah Mormont (the Old Bear's son and Dany's wannabe lover/husband). I am the Town RB. Ishy claimed to target EP and EP didn't get it N3, which fits with my own NAs.

 

N1 I blocked NS.

N2 I blocked Darthe.

N3 I blocked Ishy.

 

@ Key & Kae... I adore the death scene.

 

Oh! And go Night's Watch!

 

Yes, it was an awesome scene. Very well-written.

 

I actually am no longer sure of Ishy IIRC our little exchange happened day 3, which is the last time I was notified of receiving motivation. He could have been blocked Night 3, or he could have went elsewhere. However until that point he was town, because if he was cult he would have been doubling Tress, and I doubt he'd have doubled me if he were mafia to give me a higher percentage to block his team, so unless he was recruited night 2 or 3 He is town, but I cannot be sure.

 

He was blocked, so the big question here is... when he stated he targeted you N3, was he truthful about that? If he suspected I was the RB like you did, then cult-Ishy could have targeted Tress or someone else and claimed to have doubled you, and we couldn't prove otherwise. I'll give Ishy the benefit of doubt for now, but I'm keeping an eye on him.

[bgrishinko]

Hrm. Why in the world block Ishy at that point?

[bgrishinko]

You ask if he was telling the truth. Well if you hadn't created the WIFOM by blocking Ishy we'd know for sure. You caused this mess. And what are the odds of a roleblocker and jailer and a mafia roleblocker?