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Wait, when did Red stop being for NS's lynch? I thought we were all pretty much agreed on that and simply stalling to keep this from being a waste day.

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:wub: @ Nol

 

Verb, I never said it was a good post. :laugh:

 

 

Red (and Nol), I have already said I don't doubt Nol, so stop trying to imply that.

Have youto ever badgered your parents for so long as a kid for something that they just said ok?

That is what Nol's "admission" that EP and John are for sure 100% Town because of something the Mod said is a bunch of malarky.

He only did it to shut you and I up, Red.

 

That being said, yes, Noldy is Town.

As for John and EP, they are not Mod-confirmed, and can still be scum. EP has more of a chance imo, but no, I don't think either is scum yet.

EP I get that idea for awhile, but his play is just stupid and scummy.

 

 

 

 

 

As for Despo, not wanting to vote Night because he could be a Jester and you don't want to give him that win. BS.

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Darthe - not arguing against a Strike lynch. infact if you read i say that the info alone will be worth it, the NK on Red 1.0 and the aims behind it are just making my gut twist. not enough to not lynch him, i think he's the best candidate right now; but enough to go looking for more info and to start examining his lynch and push last night.

 

also, for why i suspect you. my resons have remained the same as what i've previously said in my other WoT's. i got a gut ping on you from the get go and its not gone away since.

 

 

Ishy - Red 1.0 was NKd and yes your reaction to that was scumtastic imo. your vote on Strike is opportunistic rather than for solid scum hunting reasons. also, your vote on Strike and your reaction to Red 1.0's flip are the last things your pinging me for. you'v ebeen pingign me well before this point and i've said as much as well.

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:wub: @ Nol

 

Verb, I never said it was a good post. :laugh:

 

 

Red (and Nol), I have already said I don't doubt Nol, so stop trying to imply that.

Have youto ever badgered your parents for so long as a kid for something that they just said ok?

That is what Nol's "admission" that EP and John are for sure 100% Town because of something the Mod said is a bunch of malarky.

He only did it to shut you and I up, Red.

 

That being said, yes, Noldy is Town.

As for John and EP, they are not Mod-confirmed, and can still be scum. EP has more of a chance imo, but no, I don't think either is scum yet.

EP I get that idea for awhile, but his play is just stupid and scummy.

 

 

 

 

 

As for Despo, not wanting to vote Night because he could be a Jester and you don't want to give him that win. BS.

 

Ed. the bolded is you putting doubt on Nol.

 

hence, your higher up on my list than before.

 

 

though i agree with you about Despo concerning Strike.

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You've been harping on them since they claimed Ed

Yet you pulled your vote iirc implying you believe them

If you believe them then why every time they come up do you repeat that you don't trust them?

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Okay, well, here's what I've been stewing about in my head.

 

Town:

Nolder: Mod-Confirmed

EP: Nolder-Confirmed

JS: Nolder-Confirmed

Basel: As good as confirmed in my book.

 

While I'm not sure what happened to cause the confirmations to Nolder, I'll roll with it. I know people see the Leelou replacement thing as a null tell, I think it shows Basel is town and I haven't seen anything else to convince me otherwise right now.

 

As for those I'm watching most right now are Strike, Peace, and to a lesser extent Red 2.0. Now I don't think they are all teamed up because that seems contradictory. I do agree that no matter what Nightstrike will provide the most info. If Nightstrike is scum, then my ping level on Peace goes down a few notches. I felt like Peace was mischaracterizing Nightstrike before and then that got carried away... Red 1.0 got in on the action and Nightstrike effectively talked himself into a corner then self imploded. He seemed townie to me up until he went all weird.

 

The way Nightstrike got all weird today makes me wonder if I was wrong about a few things. Maybe Peace's pressure was good and outted Night's scumminess. Seems likely. In which case, good job Peace, sorry for doubting you. I still think you badgered him a bit yesterday, but whatever works.

 

Then again, maybe Nightstrike flips town. In which case, Peace has been awfully quiet about him compared to yesterday other than to vote him. Which is odd when he was one of the root causes of many thinking he was looking scummy. He seems like he is just riding out the lynch. Either way, I think it will paint a better picture when he is lynched.

 

Red 2.0's mighty change of heart here has given me a bit of a pause too. I'm not sure if it is from sincerity about having herself killed, or if it is a WIFOMY distancing trick. Either way it seems odd to me, but I can't quite figure it out.

 

I'm overly weary of some newer folks because of the Leelou situation as well. That puts Cyan, Mish, and Wot13 (and Dice because he replaced Lolguy) on my list as well since they are the newest people I know of. But I've played with all them before and I'd think they'd know that still.

 

Everyone else seems like talking heads so far nothing really has stuck out to me too much one way or another.

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You've been harping on them since they claimed Ed

Yet you pulled your vote iirc implying you believe them

If you believe them then why every time they come up do you repeat that you don't trust them?

 

I noticed that. I could vote him.

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Official Vote Count:

 

Nightstrike (9) Ishy, BG, Misheru, JLM, John Snow, peace, Eds, Basel, Dice

Rand (3) Red, Razen, Songs

BG (1) Darthe

Verbal (1) EP

Razen (1) Desp

Eds (1) Nolder

 

Not voting (6) Kaylee, Verbal, Rand, Nightstrike, WoT, Cyan

 

 

With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

 

 

Still need a replacement for WoT.

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my main point on Strike N1 was applying a bit of pressure. when he started flailing about is when i backed off. my main pressure was about his votes and his previous posting.

 

his flailing honestly could go either way imo and at that point i was more interested in who jumped on the "pressure Strike" wagon and who defended him. Despo is the only one who came to his defense, which i remarked on.

 

 

Mish, JLM, and peace to a lesser extent are the others that stood out to me over the night. all, excluding peace, i remarked on. peace has been pinging me. he's been giving me that back seat manipulator feeling all game, same as Darthe.

 

 

 

in post edit - i'm down for some Ed pressure. he's been way to buddy buddy with me all game. first in my corner against Ep all the way, then with Strike to a lesser extent. i think he keeps riding the Ep train so hard cause Red 1.0 flipped town and he thinks he can use that to justify his actions. the whole "see a townie thought he was scum as well"

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Because, Nol. Your role as Innocent Child lets you have the mod confirm you in thread at any time, as far as I am tracking.

And I reply to people telling me they HAVE to be Town because no, they don't. If, on the chance they are scum, people are being blinded.

Constant vigilance!

 

Again, Red, no. Only on those two. Stop saying I am casting doubt on Nol himself.

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I find it interesting that Red thinks that fence sitting is an indication of scum yet she is doing it on the NS lynch.

 

She is trying to be subtle about it but she is still doing it. First, she's all over him as red 1.0. Then day comes and she wants pressure on someone else. I get that, info is all good. But now she's hedging with saying his lynch is good regardless of his alignment cause it will give info. That where she starts straddling.

 

I only point this out cause in this thread she came out against fence sitting and is doing here...albeit in a less noticeable manner than Rand but still fence sitting.

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Red, I didn't hop on to those thoughts AFTER you began bulldogging, so nope. I just think they are scum.

 

As for buddying, I have told you, you are not my buddy. :tongue:

Ironically.

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Because, Nol. Your role as Innocent Child lets you have the mod confirm you in thread at any time, as far as I am tracking.

And I reply to people telling me they HAVE to be Town because no, they don't. If, on the chance they are scum, people are being blinded.

Constant vigilance!

 

Again, Red, no. Only on those two. Stop saying I am casting doubt on Nol himself.

My support of them is besides the point

 

They claimed

You either believe them or you don't

If you don't believe them then why aren't you still voting them?

If you do believe them then why do you keep casting doubt on their claims?

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Ed - Nol stated theyre mod confirmed town to him, you stated and rather clearly "he's saying that to shut us up" implying he's lieing abotu it. hence, your casting doubt on Nol. i've no reason to doubt Nol, all i wanted to know was whether his 100% was his own gut or from the mod. he said from the mod, i drop it; simple as that.

 

and yes, i'm fence sitting on Strikes alignement now. i'm unsure how he'll flip at thsi point becuase of the NK on Red 1.0. he pinged for play style, comments, his vote and his wishy washyness on votes. these are good scum pings. but his flailing could be either way and the play style ping i'm taking with a grain of salt given EPs play style pinged hardcore and i'm obviously wrong about him. as i said i'm not unsure about him but not enought to not want to lynch him given the info he'll give.

 

 

Peace - i stated over the night, in response to you infact, that i didn't want a rush lynch on Strike and wanted competing trains D2. and i'm not trying to be subtle abotu my unsureness on Strike, i've been rather striaght forward about it honestly.

 

 

Ishy - you want to push that angle bro, bring it. if anything it will just put a nail in your lynch wagon and others who are pushign this trian of thought, and thats enough for me *grins* why not put your vote where your FoS is? or are you afriad peopel might call you out for jumping off Strikes train since you went after him hard core.

Posted

Because of EP's play. John has the benefit of the doubt. He is low on the 'could still possibly be scum'.

EP, as I said, goes back and forth.

 

 

*poops on Ishy*

Posted

but Nol said their 100% mod confirmed to him. you're basiclaly calling Nol a liar which is casting doubt on him. only scum lie to the town Ed.

 

 

 

i dislike this greatly.

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UseRed, Townies can and have lied. For whatever reasons they might have had. I have done it as Town.

 

If Nol's role has been used and he is not a Mason, then there is no plausible way he know they are MOD-confirmed. Plain and simple.

My doubt is on that one aspect of what Nol has done, not on his alignment.

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