[ADVANCED] KaeKey Game of Thrones Mafia - GAME OVER! NIGHT'S WATCH WINS!

[Sakaea]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Ishy (2) - Songs, Basel

John Snow (1) - Lenlo

BG (3) - Darthe, peace, Cyan

JLM (1) - EP

Songs (1) - Nightstrike

Nightstrike (1) - John Snow

Basel (11) - Mish, leelou, Des, Ishy, Rand, Ed, JLM, Red, Nolder, BG, Razen

 

 

Not voting (4): Kaylee, Verb, dice, WoT

With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch.

 

DL: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?year=2012&month=oct&day=9&hour=12&min=00&sec=00&p0=2440&msg=Day+1+Deadline&csz=1# 16.5 hours

[John E. Kelley]

I think Razen was referring to Snow and EP. But I'm drunk, so I could be wrong. I frequently am.

[ed2funy]

Is it bad that it bothers me that the vote counts aren't ordered by who has the most votes?

 

 

I know, I'm weird.

[ed2funy]

I think Razen was referring to Snow and EP. But I'm mafia, so I could be wrong. I frequently am.

 

[John E. Kelley]

I see wut yu did thar Scummy McScummerson.

[Basel Gill]

Uhhhh, what?

You're willing to vote Lord Noldermort?

 

This makes me laugh. As to the train: I've said my piece. I can't think of anything else which would convince you lot that I'm town. If you want to hammer, then I suppose you are willing to deal with not having a town NK on your side.

[Songstress]

Unvote, vote Basel

 

As I said earlier, I'm not sold that Jaqen H'ghar is town.

 

Others I'm not trusting right now, in no particular order: Ishy, Red, Cyan, and Rand.

[Songstress]

AAAAND FORMATTING!!!

 

Unvote, Vote Basel

[RandA lThor]

OK, well all the reasons for voting him had already been thrown out there when I cast my vote. Those were my reasons, but people had already covered them. The closer you get to the end of the train, the more likely it is that you shall see similar reasoning.

[hazelkrs1]

Lord Noldermort.

 

That was seriously worth a snortle

[RandA lThor]

I have to agree, that was pretty good.

[Nolder]

You don't sound happy about it Nol. You disagree? Have someone else in mind?

I have enough doubt to prefer lynching someone who isn't really participating

[peacesells]

Nolder, you wanna clear up the issue where you say you know that EP and Jon Snow are town? It's pretty apparent you guys aren't masons.

[hazelkrs1]

I'll be honest in that in a game where No Lynch isn't an option, lynching an inactive early isn't quite as bad.

 

But there's still a risk that we lose a town power role. Yes, that role in the hands of an inactive player is most likely not going to be used as effectively, but chances are if that person stays inactive eventually the mod will replace them, hopefully with a more skilled and active player

[hazelkrs1]

I gotta say btw, that some new players are cropping up on my scumdar. I was reading up on the game on my phone so I can't remember which ones exactly, but I'll go back again and check.

 

If for some reason we were going to lynch an inactive, my vote would be Leelou. She's barely played this game, yet has been very active over on JN. Her scummy bandwagon vote and kinda odd unvote (didn't mention anything about Snow's claim, just said she had to do a reread and unvoted, then disappeared again) seems like enough grounds to lynch her on.

 

I still think a lynch on one of the better candidates today would make more sense, as it would benefit town a lot more and give us more info

[hazelkrs1]

Reading Red's quotes that she pulled, I just was struck by an odd idea.

 

If Nol claimed that he knows that both EP and Snow are both town, then how is it that EP is joining a train on him? Something's not sitting right with me with the whole knowing business. I will go back to check the exact timestamps, but if I recall correctly, this was before Nol had said that he knew that they were both town, but after Nol was mod confirmed as town. So even if they were trying to hide that fact, it's still a VERY strange vote coming from him.

 

I'd like to hear an explanation about that. So much so that if we weren't this close to the deadline, I'd be voting for one of them. But given that I have class all morning tomorrow (and no computer allowed), I'm going to unvote, vote: Basel.

 

Thank you for popping in again Razen and making it easier to make a case against you later

 

You're using some pretty messed up logic here to continue and try and discredit either EP or Snow, two people that discussion should have stopped on LONG ago.

 

EP is within his town meta, and claimed Jailer. He should be able to vet his role tonight (although it was stupid to announce who he would jail)

 

Mr. Snow never had much of a case on him. He was initially one of the people that didn't like EP's behavior BEFORE EP claimed, and EP pretty much just went after him after that, and everyone else followed EP's logic (Bahahaha!!!!!)

 

They both claimed Stark characters, who will be town in this game (slight bit of doubt in EP's case, since Night's Watch could be third party, but meh). Even if they are lying, they will eventually be outed.

 

Once again, thank you for making it that much easier to secure your lynch tomorrow. Wish we had enough people that had listened to me earlier, we might still have enough time to get one on you today

[hazelkrs1]

Reading Red's quotes that she pulled, I just was struck by an odd idea.

 

If Nol claimed that he knows that both EP and Snow are both town, then how is it that EP is joining a train on him? Something's not sitting right with me with the whole knowing business. I will go back to check the exact timestamps, but if I recall correctly, this was before Nol had said that he knew that they were both town, but after Nol was mod confirmed as town. So even if they were trying to hide that fact, it's still a VERY strange vote coming from him.

 

I'd like to hear an explanation about that. So much so that if we weren't this close to the deadline, I'd be voting for one of them. But given that I have class all morning tomorrow (and no computer allowed), I'm going to unvote, vote: Basel.

 

Oh and I forgot to mention something else scummy about this post: tossing Red's name in there so it seems like he's just following an idea put forth by Red. I never like when people reference other's cases to justify their own fos's or votes

[peacesells]

Desp, I think we have good day 1 options as is. But, I do understand that in a no lynch game an inactive would be good..but only if Basel hadn't claimed yet. Your idea would be good if were getting down to the nitty gritty and he had a last minute claim of an role we shouldn't lynch at all like cop.

 

Then having an inactive in our pocket would be a great choice. But Basel has claimed. And I think that changes the scenario greatly.

 

Something is troubling me though. I don't really believe his claim, but I could be wrong so I'm hesitant to pull the trigger. Lately we've had some very successful town vigs in games. They can holster when unsure and put to sleep a scummy player that seems unlynchable for some reason.

 

What I am finding really interesting is several people have claimed they are willing to vote BG but are voting Basel instead with comments like "even a town vig can be bad for town." Imo, that's a very weak reason. If you think someone is likely innocent, don't vote for them. Especially when you have another viable option that several others agree with. This is really nagging at me.

 

Even if there isn't enough initially to lynch BG, two trains is great day 1 info and can set the rest of the game up nicely for town.

[ed2funy]

Lord Noldermort.

 

That was seriously worth a snortle

 

 

I'll be honest in that in a game where No Lynch isn't an option, lynching an inactive early isn't quite as bad.

 

But there's still a risk that we lose a town power role. Yes, that role in the hands of an inactive player is most likely not going to be used as effectively, but chances are if that person stays inactive eventually the mod will replace them, hopefully with a more skilled and active player

 

Why the flippy floppy?

 

They both claimed Stark characters, who will be town in this game (slight bit of doubt in EP's case, since Night's Watch could be third party, but meh). Even if they are lying, they will eventually be outed.

 

Still mentioning third parties when the Mods posted the win conditions of only Town and Mafia.

 

Noted.

[hazelkrs1]

I'll be honest in that in a game where No Lynch isn't an option, lynching an inactive early isn't quite as bad.

 

But there's still a risk that we lose a town power role. Yes, that role in the hands of an inactive player is most likely not going to be used as effectively, but chances are if that person stays inactive eventually the mod will replace them, hopefully with a more skilled and active player

 

Why the flippy floppy?

 

1. I remembered that no lynch wasn't an option

2. One of the inactives (Leelou) struck me as a good candidate for the inactive thing cause for posting very little, she actually had a fair amount against her

3. Cause I can flippy floppy if I WANT durnit!

 

 

They both claimed Stark characters, who will be town in this game (slight bit of doubt in EP's case, since Night's Watch could be third party, but meh). Even if they are lying, they will eventually be outed.

 

Still mentioning third parties when the Mods posted the win conditions of only Town and Mafia.

 

Noted.

 

You may now post. In the Game of Thrones, you win, or you die.

 

R&R to your role PM before posting.

 

Town win condition: You win with the town when all threats to the town have been removed.

 

Mafia win condition: You win when you gain a voting majority.If some of your role pm win conditions are worded differently, it was my mistake.

 

THESE ARE THE CORRECT WIN CONDITIONS.

 

Hmmm you're right. Forgot about that. Went back to see if they were as lock tight as DPR's were, and they seem to be to me. Doesn't seem like third party will be in this game.

 

Which means Jon Snow is town. Which means you should stop suggesting peeps kill him.

 

Incidentally, why did we never consider a wot13 lynch? It seems the entire reason for her getting the PR had to do with something about win conditions, and the part about mafia win conditions being worded diff by mistake kinda makes me think she's prob mafia. Plus she's been totally absent since getting her PR, she's posted like.. twice since then I think?

 

Would it make us meanyheads to just lynch her instead?

[hazelkrs1]

Desp, I think we have good day 1 options as is. But, I do understand that in a no lynch game an inactive would be good..but only if Basel hadn't claimed yet. Your idea would be good if were getting down to the nitty gritty and he had a last minute claim of an role we shouldn't lynch at all like cop.

 

Then having an inactive in our pocket would be a great choice. But Basel has claimed. And I think that changes the scenario greatly.

 

Something is troubling me though. I don't really believe his claim, but I could be wrong so I'm hesitant to pull the trigger. Lately we've had some very successful town vigs in games. They can holster when unsure and put to sleep a scummy player that seems unlynchable for some reason.

 

What I am finding really interesting is several people have claimed they are willing to vote BG but are voting Basel instead with comments like "even a town vig can be bad for town." Imo, that's a very weak reason. If you think someone is likely innocent, don't vote for them. Especially when you have another viable option that several others agree with. This is really nagging at me.

 

Even if there isn't enough initially to lynch BG, two trains is great day 1 info and can set the rest of the game up nicely for town.

 

It's a bit late to try setting up competing trains most likely tho.

 

But I'd be willing to follow onto BG if it seems like enough people would do the same.

 

In fact,

 

Unvote, Vote BG

[John E. Kelley]

In 13 hours? You're a little too optimistic methinks.

[RandA lThor]

Actually, he has a point. Now with this, it takes out the whole Basel is 3rd party. Not good, he probably is the vig, unvote vote BG

[ed2funy]

It's been stated a few times that No Lynch was an option.

 

And I have quoted the Win Conditions quote before.

 

And I only think he should die because I don't quite trust him.

 

 

 

Me no likely your reply at all, Desp.

[hazelkrs1]

I don't like your face Ed.

 

And you're way off your meta btw. Never seen you this active in a mafia game. Thinking you're scummerooni