[ADVANCED] WOT Mafia: The Great Hunt - GAME OVER!

[Darthe]

Where did you address my claim? Also me des and Nighstrike don't matter. All three are pretty obviously town.

Rand and Shinori also stated interest in voting LZM.

 

If your goal was consolidation you would vote the person with the most votes logically.

 

LZM had 4

I had 2

Your push changed it to 6

 

If you are town you're playing a stupid game.

 

Uno was vastly more important to the plot than the "hundreds" of characters that are in the story.

[Darthe]

Oh and there were no posts in between those four votes. When they started I had 2 votes on me and LZM had 4 so if they wanted consolidation they would have voted for him. This has to be the biggest scum move all game. I am now betting that LZM, Kae, and Shinori are all mafia. Remember, I am Uno.

To be fair Rand had his vote on you previously

 

Also you're definitely off on Shinori unless you think GF is scum which is highly doubtful

 

Where was all of that at? I must have missed or forgotten something in my long conversation with EP.

Where was what at?

 

The roleclaim of GF and saying Shinori is town etc. Seems vague to me.

[Nolder]

Oh and there were no posts in between those four votes. When they started I had 2 votes on me and LZM had 4 so if they wanted consolidation they would have voted for him. This has to be the biggest scum move all game. I am now betting that LZM, Kae, and Shinori are all mafia. Remember, I am Uno.

To be fair Rand had his vote on you previously

 

Also you're definitely off on Shinori unless you think GF is scum which is highly doubtful

 

Where was all of that at? I must have missed or forgotten something in my long conversation with EP.

Where was what at?

 

The roleclaim of GF and saying Shinori is town etc. Seems vague to me.

I believe it occurred around daybreak

[Nolder]

Where did you address my claim?

When I told you I trusted you to shoot the right person if you're telling the truth

What else do you want me to say?

 

Also me des and Nighstrike don't matter. All three are pretty obviously town.

Ermm...yeah ok...

 

Rand and Shinori also stated interest in voting LZM.

LZM isn't on my list of suspects though so why would I want to push a lynch on him?

 

If your goal was consolidation you would vote the person with the most votes logically.

 

LZM had 4

I had 2

Your push changed it to 6

Again LZM isn't a suspect to me at this time

I'd rather lynch someone I think is mafia

 

If you are town you're playing a stupid game.

We'll see I guess

Wouldn't be the first time

 

Uno was vastly more important to the plot than the "hundreds" of characters that are in the story.

Ok let's decrease the number to just say 30 MAJOR characters

That's still plenty of wiggle room for scum

I see no point in focusing on characters

 

It's something we should mention when roleclaiming just to double check that flavor matches character but that's about it IMO

[Darthe]

fair enough. let's see what happens.

[Gabriel Kross]

Mafia Suspects:

Des -7

Nightstrike -4

Darthe -3

 

I don't have much that's tangible on Nightstrike and Darthe but they're my best picks for mafia after Des

It doesn't look like anyone is going to listen to me about Des today which is unfortunate so I'll move my vote to Darthe to consolidate

Unvote

Vote: Darthe

 

We're going to need more votes to make this happen though

GF and Shinori you guys need to vote Darthe with me

I'm fine with that I guess.

I still don't like LZM or Desp.

 

##Unvote:

##Vote: Darthe

I can go with that too, but I could also go with LZM. Unvote, vote Darthe. I'll be online tomorrow, so I'll be here to change my vote if necessary.

 

Will be gone all day again today, going rockhounding again. Found so much yesterday

I am probably going to be gone most of today, so unvote vote Darthe

 

This should tell you all something about my alignment. Dear god look at the speed there, with absolutely no push and with no real need for consolidation yet. So. which of these four are mafia?

 

You are wrong pretty sure Rand was already voting you, which meant you had 3. Also while Uno may be in this game I don't buy that you are Uno. You knew to much about the dreaming god role, and kill abilities could be anti-town.

[Nolder]

That feels kind of all over the place EP

[Gabriel Kross]

How?

[Gabriel Kross]

His play the whole game is not that of town, So I don't believe him to be who he says he is.

[Nolder]

If Darthe is scum he's done a decent job of blending in IMO

Most of my suspicion comes from the way he's interacted with Des who I feel is being kind of obvious this game

[Darthe]

I can understand where you are coming from Nol but I wouldn't even consider EP's casework if I was you. At best it makes you worse at mafia to read.

[Gabriel Kross]

I can understand where you are coming from Nol but I wouldn't even consider EP's casework if I was you. At best it makes you worse at mafia to read.

 

Yranslation: "blah blah blah, I still haven't read the case."

[dicetosser1]

i have tho.

 

you know what just struck me? Darthe has been fairly forceful this game. Uno is a forceful character.

 

 

i find LZM much more suspicious then Darthe. And i DONT like the sudden push on Darthe. EP has been pushing him blindly...but thats just EP tho he is next on my list cause i think he is teamed with LZM.

 

Vote LZM

[Gabriel Kross]

i have tho.

 

you know what just struck me? Darthe has been fairly forceful this game. Uno is a forceful character.

 

 

i find LZM much more suspicious then Darthe. And i DONT like the sudden push on Darthe. EP has been pushing him blindly...but thats just EP tho he is next on my list cause i think he is teamed with LZM.

 

Vote LZM

 

I am not teamed with LZM, but nice blind connecting there buddy, Darthe has been inconsistent all game, saying he has done things he hasn't and what not.

 

I have no problem moving to LZM as he is on my suspect list, I'd still like to lynch Darthe though.

[RandA lThor]

I think I missed your claim, you were Uno and what role?

[Darthe]

Basically a revenge killer.

[Darthe]

i have tho.

 

you know what just struck me? Darthe has been fairly forceful this game. Uno is a forceful character..

 

I am honestly attempting to develop a bit stronger and more distinct style but that is ironic. Perhaps priming had some significance.

[Darthe]

1.Wombat JLM

2. John Snow - Rand al'Thor, Town Searcher and Watchmaker, Killed Day 2

3. Peace - Renna, Mafia Vote Thief, Lynched Day 2

4. EP

5. wheeloftime Turin (what did he flip as again?)

6. Player - Egwene Al'Vere, Town Dreaming God

7. Tiinker Nolder, strange actions lately - middling read

8. BG - middling read

9. GF – Claims Hurin, Cop - middling read

10. LZM

11. Lenlo - Mat Cauthon, Town Searcher, Killed Night 1

12. Niel

13. Sakaea

14. Nightstrike

15. notbob

16. dicetosser

17. Despo

18. Shinori – Claims Elayne Trakand

19. Sorcha - Nynaeve, Town Healer, Killed Night 1

20. Darthe - Claims Uno

21. Rand - Claims Loial

22. lolguy

 

Green (town), Orange (Middling), and Purple (mafia) are my reads on people. Red and Blue are corriner reports. People who aren't highlighted have either not contributed much at all or I have a null read on.

 

 

Shinori, strange and weak claim but I believe it, somehow confirmed by a semi-cop?

EP - would not push so much as mafia, living breathing WIFOM, benefits mafia regardless of affiliation

LZM pings a lot

WoT13 being quiet STILL

Grandeal Favorite generally accepted as Hurin, Cop. Perhaps needs to be tested more during late game but claim is believable

Nightstrike not here much, when he is his comments are fairly pro-town, may need tested later

BG comes from nowhere and pushes John to not use his power.. DISAPPEARS?

Kae was scummy early, remains so. Overly Cautious and underly helpful

Rand keeps under the radar, doesn't say much and only bandwagons. Loial claim is almost certainly true.

Lolguy has good potential to be mafia. Lurking mafia. Statistically speaking, if rand is town then he is not.

JLM is oddly not here.

Notbob is playing the pot stirrer, oddly quiet for him.

 

My mafia list so far is:

LZM, Kae, NotBob, EP and lolguy.

 

My town list so far is:

Darthe, Despo, Niel, Nightstrike Player, Dice, and JLM

 

Here is the thing. My own list bugs me. I know people say that statistics and math do not have a place in mafia but that is because those people have a bias against math. Quite frankly a roster should always have mafia spaced through it evenly. It doesn't but almost every game I have ever played in has them close together, with the ends being more likely to produce mafia because of the way a random number table works (the mathematical device used by Random.org). What is bugging me is this:

 

15. notbob

16. dicetosser

17. Despo

18. Shinori – Claims Elayne Trakand

19. Sorcha - Nynaeve, Town Healer, Killed Night 1

20. Darthe - Claims Uno

21. Rand - Claims Loial

22. lolguy

 

as opposed to this:

 

1.Wombat JLM

2. John Snow - Rand al'Thor, Town Searcher and Watchmaker, Killed Day 2

3. Peace - Renna, Mafia Vote Thief, Lynched Day 2

4. EP

5. wheeloftime Turin

6. Player - Egwene Al'Vere, Town Dreaming God

7. Tiinker Nolder, strange actions lately - middling read

 

Does anyone else see the disparity in color here?

If we can assume a minimum of 6-7 anti-town characters in a game of 22 (which we can) then the top list should not be possible.

The improbability, according to my calculator, of 6 people in a row being town is .0035 out of 1.0000. There is almost no way. it's .35%.

So my list is somewhat wrong. However, I do not know where at so we will have to see what the concensus says.

 

In other news:

 

FULLY UPDATED. PLEASE RECAP CLAIMS OF CHARACTERS AND ROLES FOR ME SO I CAN UPDATE MORE.

[RandA lThor]

Well, I don't think we should use the list, I mean what if random.org had some weird luck. Anyways, I haven't been bandwagoning, i was suspicious of you before, and as you said, not having Loial in this game would be weird considering the amount he was in here. And why do you have WoT13 as quiet if she is not in the game?

[Darthe]

Damn, I forgot she was replaced.

[Gabriel Kross]

so you say I wouldn't push so much as mafia yet you list me as probable mafia? More contradictions ftw!

[Nolder]

man lots of activity

this is gonna take me forever to catch up on

we'll have no problem achieving a lynch at this rate /s

[Nolder]

you know what just struck me? Darthe has been fairly forceful this game. Uno is a forceful character.

You think...that he's role playing his character?

[Nolder]

Darthe the disparity is most likely incorrect reads

[LedZepMan]

The amityville horror is a stupid movie