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[Sakaea]

Then you aren't 100% percent sure of anything. Unvote, vote cosmicpanda for claiming to be 100% sure of something when he isn't. What a load of bullshanks. (stealing your word, Red.)

[Myndrunner]

I'm not cop.

Not sure why THIS would warrant a lynch on Cosmic Panda just yet.

 

Then you aren't 100% percent sure of anything. Unvote, vote cosmicpanda for claiming to be 100% sure of something when he isn't. What a load of bullshanks. (stealing your word, Red.)

 

It is possible for Cosmic Panda to be 100% sure about Aemon Kristen if he was the cop, but since he claims not to be cop, we hardly can believe that he truly is 100% sure about Aemon Kristen unless he too was mafia, kinda what Razen says. It would be silly for a cop to claim on Day 1 or Day 2 even if he got a mafia read this early in the game, agreed?

 

Nonetheless, perhaps we should test Cosmic Panda's non-cop instincts? His lynch was building way too fast and Razen's reactions have been town oriented. It was Cosmic Panda who actually voted Aiel Heart due to my wild accusations. AND Aemon Kristen has agreed with me this whole game, which must mean he's trying to buddy up to me.

 

I say we go with Aemon Kristen instead. Cosmic Panda's 100% sure post is significant, cop or not. We can gain a lot more information from this lynch than from Razen, who really hasn't seemed to align with anyone in this game.

 

unvote

 

Vote Aemon Kristen

 

He flips town, Cosmic Panda is on the hot seat.

He flips scum, our non-cop helped us get a scummie AND we can take a long look at who voted Razen instead to deflect away from his lynch.

 

Make sense?

[Aiel Heart]

And we know Cosmik isn't just a scum ratting out a scum mate because?

 

Oh btw I'm Unvoting for now. Will try to do a reread later but I'm rather swamped tonight

[Myndrunner]

I think this is where we are now...

UN-official Votecount

Razen - Aemon Kristen, BGrishinko, Perfexionist, Keyholder, Ishmael (5)

Aemon Kristen - Cosmic Panda, Red, Mynd (3)

Cosmic - Razen, Sakaea (2)

 

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch

Deadline Countdown

 

I find it interesting that Razen and Sakaea are choosing to lynch Cosmic Panda instead of Aemon Kristen. Razen won't vote for Aemon Kristen when he's the other competing train yet Sakaea is all over the place.

[aemonkristen]

I really don't see how lynching me does anything to clear him. When I flip town, all he has do do is say he read me wrong. There is no information gained except that he thought I was scum. Then we are back to Razen's following your insane case against Key and AH's erratic behavior. I think Razen is a much better lynch candidate for today. The conversation has been centered on him most of the day and I have yet to see any coherent reason to remove my vote.

[Nolder]

Votecount

Razen - Aemon, Mynd, BG, Perf, Key, Ishy (5)

Cosmic - Razen, Sakaea (2)

Aemon - Cosmic, Red, Mynd (3)

 

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch

Deadline Countdown

[Nolder]

8 hours until the deadline

[Levity]

Good evening.

[Levity]

So, I'm pretty much almost caught up with the thread at this point. Things I want to note so far:

 

1. The ÓMGUS argument--as long as there's a legitimate reason for a vote at least from my perspective, I don't count it off as anything this simple. If you're genuinely suspicious of someone, it shouldn't matter whether or not they voted you.

 

2. I don't like the sudden Cosmic votes. It was obvious Cosmic was using a figure of speech there--to be 100% certain that someone is scum means that you're pretty confident someone is scum. Am I the only one getting slight pings from Sakaea, by the way? I need to do a conglomeration of individual posts and look at that.

 

3. From what I see, the Razen and Aemon lynches both grew erratically, and I can't quite decide which one is the better; Razen voting Cosmic seemed almost like a diversion of sorts to me, but an odd one that doesn't quite make a lot of sense. He overreacted just a little bit to Mynd's accusation (which I have experience with so I don't blame you, but I was mafia in that game and it's easy to accuse Mynd of pushing townie lynches because he pushes hardcore sometimes from what I've seen), but his recent posts have given off more of a calm feel to me?

 

I'm having trouble remembering a lot of what Aemon posted (which is bothering me a little), so I'm going to have to read back again to build a case on that side.

[Levity]

Oh and I'm also really paranoid about the lyncher

I'm always really paranoid about lyncher-type roles, but

just a thought

[bgrishinko]

Odd how the Razer lynch stalled out so close to deadline and people tried to push Cosmic for being helpful. If cosmic were scum, he'd have greater advantage in letting the soft claim continue to hang in the wind rather than coming forth right now.

[John E. Kelley]

7 hours everyone.

[Nolder]

5 hours 30 minutes

[cosmicpanda]

Deadline: Unvote, vote: Razen

[Nolder]

Votecount

Razen - Aemon, Mynd, BG, Perf, Key, Ishy, Cosmic (6)

Cosmic - Razen, Sakaea (2)

Aemon - Red, Mynd (2)

 

Not Voting: Amega, Arez, Levity

 

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch

Deadline Countdown

 

I realize I haven't made this clear before now and I'm really sorry about that

but just so it's clear from now on I will be random killing from non voters if a lynch (or No Lynch) is not achieved

[cosmicpanda]

Oh yeah, meant to do this before:

 

And we know Cosmik isn't just a scum ratting out a scum mate because?

 

Also, if I were scum, why would I out him like that on day one? Don't be absurd.

[Nolder]

little less than 3 hours

it's looking like we're gonna go random...

[Arez Al'Loke]

Blah.. Not fun with randoms.. Srry Razen, I don't really find the arguments to lynch you "Convincing" But the deadline is comming

 

Vote Razen

[Perfexionist]

Fex, would you like to attack any thoughts to that vote?

 

Not really. Deadline is coming; hopefully someone can hammer before random kill falls.

[Myndrunner]

unvote

 

vote Razen

 

Let's get the majority. Still, this whole Cosmic Panda / Aemon Kristen thing needs looking into.

[Red2111]

UNVOTE

 

VOTE: RAZEN

 

jic

 

brb with the quotes i got.

 

 

[Red2111]

Hey Red, no hard feelins! You've been town in so many games that the odds were that you would be scum at some point, but your posts seem coherent enough to indicate town. Maybe.

 

 

no hard feeligns here either even though i totlaly went emo class 4 metldown in that game

 

lmao, you'll learn mynd, Meta wont help you in casing me all that much i tend to switch up my play style and play the same reguardless of alignment just to screw with peopel who rely on meta. its the simple things in life, like messing with people, that make me happy *grins*

 

 

 

Unvote, Vote: aemonkristen because it looks like cosmic is softclaiming cop. I can get behind that, but FOS Mynd for asking him to full on say it. Doesn't sit right in my brain that town-Mynd would do that.

 

In addition to outing Cosmic if he is indeed the cop, you also "unvoted" when you hadn't placed a vote in the first place, according to the votecount before this post. Interesting.

 

to the underlined - good catch, i find it very interesting as well.

 

 

Actually, there is a competing train. Is no one commenting on this Aemon Kristen vs Cosmic Panda business anymore? This lynch on Razen is building way too fast for my liking. Yeah, we have about half a day but seriously? I'd still like to know why Cosmic Panda is 100% sure of Aemon Kristen and whether or not we should consider Aemon Kristen instead.

 

so your giving Kae flake for pointing out the soft claim but with the underlined your asking him to basically come out and claim if he is cop. how is what your doing any different from what Kae did?

 

 

And I never said the tomfoolery didn't have a purpose. Look at how much we've learned from it!!! I certainly am not writing it off. Where did I say that I was? Just because I wasn't being serious doesn't mean other people weren't

 

to the underlined - when you said "who says i'm being serious" if your taking the phase as a joke, your writing off what happens in that phase. and AH, this isn't about other peoples reactions to the Night 0 antics of Mynd, it's about your reaction, so how other peolpe behaved has no barring on the ping your behavior has given me.

 

 

and your controdicting yourself. you can't call it tomfoolery (implying that its nonsense) whiel at the same time priasing how much good it did and that it did have a purpose. it's either nonsesnical spam, or scum hunting. you cannot have your cake and eat it too, and it looks like your trying to appear to be supporting the scum hunting while at the same time tryign to demean or discredit it.

 

 

Then you aren't 100% percent sure of anything. Unvote, vote cosmicpanda for claiming to be 100% sure of something when he isn't. What a load of bullshanks. (stealing your word, Red.)

 

i stole the word from Mynd

 

 

also, i find this vote and the reason for it ping worthy.

 

 

 

He flips town, Cosmic Panda is on the hot seat.

He flips scum, our non-cop helped us get a scummie AND we can take a long look at who voted Razen instead to deflect away from his lynch.

 

Make sense?

 

no it doesn't make sense since Panda says he's not a cop

[Myndrunner]

Cosmic Panda said he's not cop. I understand why he would say this. Cop or not, he claims to be 100% sure of Aemon Kristen. In the game of mafia, the only thing you can be 100% sure of is your own alignment, unless you are a cop and even then you have to deal with Godfathers, Bus drivers, etc. For Cosmic Panda to stake his role in the game, he had to have been pretty sure about Aemon Kristen but went about it in a way that didn't fully explain on Day 1 why he was 100% sure. I get it.

 

Red, if I said that I am 100% sure you are scum without any reason, would you not ask why?

[Nolder]

Votecount

Razen - Aemon, Mynd, BG, Perf, Key, Ishy, Cosmic, Arez (8)

Cosmic - Razen, Sakaea (2)

Aemon - Red (1)

 

Not Voting: Amega, Levity, Aiel Heart

 

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch

[Nolder]

Razen, Powerless Townie, was lynched

 

It is now Night 2

You have 24 hours to get your Night Actions in