Wombat's A Song of Ice and Fire Mafia (Advanced) Game Thread

[bgrishinko]

Vote Christine

[dapianoplay3r]

I hate being on the other side of the world. Everything happens while im asleep. I gladly approve of the Christine lynch. I think even if "something bad" were to have happened it probably would have been worth being able to know who she was and try and learn some more info

VOTE CHRISTINE

[dapianoplay3r]

ninjad

[a pale tanned lover]

I missed all the fun!!!! Well looks like Christine is a goner............or not???

[Perfexionist]

Looks like the would-be hammer

[Christine]

I told you all the truth. I'm not dying.

 

 

I am actually a little disappointed. After all the games that I have played with you lot, after all the times I have made claims or said things, has no one ever realized that I NEVER lie? I avoid at all cost answering whether or not I am Mafia on the few times that I am. I avoid answering questions that I don't want to answer. But, I never lie.

 

 

Now, yes, this is the game of lying, and lying well, enough to convince others. But instead, I play dodging the questions that can snag me, and stick to the truth. You can't screw up your words if you are always telling the same story, which is the truth.

 

 

And no one has ever noticed that about me. Sad.

[amegakure]

I'm voting Christine because the only people that I've ever seen pull the old "give me one more day" routine to squeeze out another night action, have recruiting/converting ability... or NK ability. She also doesn't seem to care who we lynch instead of her, which gives me the impression she doesn't have many, or any, team mates.

 

I dunno. I feel like I'm looking at this logically - you want to vote me for that, go ahead. That said, if she flips cult - you die next.

souns good.

For someone whose playing this game logically you've been ignoring a big part of discussion. CHRISTINE has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are. I'll Logically keep my vote where it is..

 

You'll forgive me if I don't necessarily believe every word being said by the person I'm voting. I thought it was a given that since I'm voting her, it was an indicator that I don't buy what she's selling.

 

My apologies for relying on you to connect the dots with a little common sense.

 

 

connect the dotes...HA your post sounds a little contradictory there john.. Those two sentences mean the same thing....how do you not believe what shes saying but you still agree with her??

 

 

What are you not understanding... you are splitting hairs over meaninglessness as far as I'm concerned. Bottom line, I don't think she should be given "one more day".

 

I said she's playing like she doesn't have any, or many, team mates. She wants one more day. If she's got conversion abilities, she may not have a team mate right this moment - but she could convert one tonight if we let her live another day. So, long story short - the things she is saying, I don't believe them.

 

I don't feel like I'm poorly explaining my position here, so I'm starting to wonder if you are dense, or just playing dense to try and stall her train. Did Christine happen to visit you last night?

Im not splitting hairs...im staying on topic. Your trying to get around the fact that you agreed with her. I nvr said she isnt trying to convert someone, and i never said i cared if she lived.. feel free to check her claim..even though that has already happen. I personally dont think she's a good lynch you seem better for tomorrows lynch.

I will reply more in a couple other quotes. The multi quote didnt keep all of them

[John McClane]

I'm voting Christine because the only people that I've ever seen pull the old "give me one more day" routine to squeeze out another night action, have recruiting/converting ability... or NK ability. She also doesn't seem to care who we lynch instead of her, which gives me the impression she doesn't have many, or any, team mates.

 

I dunno. I feel like I'm looking at this logically - you want to vote me for that, go ahead. That said, if she flips cult - you die next.

souns good.

For someone whose playing this game logically you've been ignoring a big part of discussion. CHRISTINE has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are. I'll Logically keep my vote where it is..

 

You'll forgive me if I don't necessarily believe every word being said by the person I'm voting. I thought it was a given that since I'm voting her, it was an indicator that I don't buy what she's selling.

 

My apologies for relying on you to connect the dots with a little common sense.

 

 

connect the dotes...HA your post sounds a little contradictory there john.. Those two sentences mean the same thing....how do you not believe what shes saying but you still agree with her??

 

 

What are you not understanding... you are splitting hairs over meaninglessness as far as I'm concerned. Bottom line, I don't think she should be given "one more day".

 

I said she's playing like she doesn't have any, or many, team mates. She wants one more day. If she's got conversion abilities, she may not have a team mate right this moment - but she could convert one tonight if we let her live another day. So, long story short - the things she is saying, I don't believe them.

 

I don't feel like I'm poorly explaining my position here, so I'm starting to wonder if you are dense, or just playing dense to try and stall her train. Did Christine happen to visit you last night?

Im not splitting hairs...im staying on topic. Your trying to get around the fact that you agreed with her. I nvr said she isnt trying to convert someone, and i never said i cared if she lived.. feel free to check her claim..even though that has already happen. I personally dont think she's a good lynch you seem better for tomorrows lynch.

I will reply more in a couple other quotes. The multi quote didnt keep all of them

 

Accusing you of splitting hairs, is not an accusation of you changing the topic. WTF are you talking about?

 

Christine has stated ad nausseum that she has team mates. YOU are the one that put the words in her mouth about having none so that you could point to my statement about not thinking she does, and call it a contradiction of some sort. You are the one that equated her saying she has NO team mates with her saying she doesn't know who they are. How can she not know who her team mates are, if she has none? You put words in her mouth, to make a case against me - wherein you began putting words in my mouth. Don't bother with the multi-quote... you haven't made a lick of sense since you started trying to manufacture this case against me.

 

For those following along, for the last time, I said that CHRISTINE'S PLAY led me to think she has no team. I don't take what people say at face value, I read motives more than I read statements. Christine said she had team mates. I said I don't think she does. Ameka said Christine said she had no teammates, and is making up this accusation of me agreeing with her. While Christine still contends that she has team mates...

 

Also, regarding the part in bold "and i never said i cared if she lived.." - of course you didn't say it, but your motives did. Christine was the leading train, and you began sewing together a case based on putting words in my mouth to derail her train and start one on me. You don't have to say whether you care if she lives or not, but your actions scream "don't try to lynch Christine".

 

Now, this might all be a moot point - so why don't we see

[John McClane]

...what happens now that the hammer vote's been cast.

[amegakure]

I'm voting Christine because the only people that I've ever seen pull the old "give me one more day" routine to squeeze out another night action, have recruiting/converting ability... or NK ability. She also doesn't seem to care who we lynch instead of her, which gives me the impression she doesn't have many, or any, team mates.

 

I dunno. I feel like I'm looking at this logically - you want to vote me for that, go ahead. That said, if she flips cult - you die next.

 

For someone whose playing this game logically you've been ignoring a big part of discussion. CHRISTINE has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are. I'll Logically keep my vote where it is..

 

You'll forgive me if I don't necessarily believe every word being said by the person I'm voting. I thought it was a given that since I'm voting her, it was an indicator that I don't buy what she's selling.

 

My apologies for relying on you to connect the dots with a little common sense.

 

 

connect the dotes...HA your post sounds a little contradictory there john.. Those two sentences mean the same thing....how do you not believe what shes saying but you still agree with her??

 

I'm responding to this again, even though I did earlier. I've got some caffeine in me... maybe I can make my point a little more clearly.

 

Above, in blue you say that "Christine has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are" re: team mates. Which to me is wishy-washy bullshit.

 

She either does have team mates, or doesn't.

 

She either does know who they are, or doesn't.

 

I'm not sure how you aren't getting this to be honest.

 

You are accusing me (in blue of my quote) of latching onto something she said, and "not paying attention" because I made the statement that when someone begs for one more day its because they can either kill or convert, and when she suggested we don't lynch her, she offered NOBODY else as a viable alternative, which I've interpreted as her having nobody to protect. So contrary to your accusations, I saw what she said, and then made a determination of my own about it. Rather than taking her at her word, since after all this is mafia...

 

You seem content to stall her train, and accept "doesn't have any team mates or know who they are".

 

I'm not.

 

 

 

WHERE DID I EVER SAY THAT I DONT HAVE ANY?!

 

 

I said you are playing like you don't have any. My statement was informed by my read of your play, not the statements you are making. I don't care what you are saying.

 

Ameka said "CHRISTINE has mentioned she doesn't have any or know who they are.

 

Perhaps you should be yelling at him, not me. As he seems to be the one who put words in your mouth.

 

yah i guess she never said she didnt have any but not knowing who they are or being able to contact them is basically not having any..

I told you all the truth. I'm not dying.

 

 

I am actually a little disappointed. After all the games that I have played with you lot, after all the times I have made claims or said things, has no one ever realized that I NEVER lie? I avoid at all cost answering whether or not I am Mafia on the few times that I am. I avoid answering questions that I don't want to answer. But, I never lie.

 

 

Now, yes, this is the game of lying, and lying well, enough to convince others. But instead, I play dodging the questions that can snag me, and stick to the truth. You can't screw up your words if you are always telling the same story, which is the truth.

 

 

And no one has ever noticed that about me. Sad.

 

 

SOOO ape boy are you messing up my name on purpuse cause you feel supior or is it accicdental? Ive noticed that you like to take other logic and break it apart and then call people dense...is that your mafia stratagie...to bully your way to the win?

 

so ill say it again...i agree that this extra day could get here another kill or whatever.. but i dont think so..and where about to find out..i never had a problem with that.. i just didnt feel like participating in the lynch. Im not spinning, or twisting what you saying im sticking to whats wrong with it. You agreed with her about not having or know her team mates...and now you say its from your own determination.. Why didnt you say that earlier instead of going off on a tangent about converting or killing...i dont quite believe yah on that... i think alot could be learned from a lynch on you tomorrow.

 

@christine. That whole not lying thing is cool and all but it defeats the purpose of the game when you build that meta and it gets you off the hook without trying. And it makes it unfair the mafia who dosent have that advantage... if i had people in my game who have that meta i would make it against the rules to claim, or reveal.

[WWWwombat]

Vote Count:

 

Christine(15): 鲍勃不是我的名字, Sakaea, trench, aemonkristen, Crusher, Keyholder, Ape, Meesh, Nolder, Verbal, Leelou, PatsFanTX, Razen, bgrishinko, dapianoplay3r

Ape(3): amegakure, Thorum, Paperblade

Razen(1): Amadine

 

With 27 voting players, it takes 14 to lynch.

 

Deadline: Wednesday, February 22 at 9 PM EST

[Christine]

Truly? Well, it's rather easy to tell when I am scum, because I won't come straight out and say that I am town/vanilla.

[Christine]

Also, see? I didn't die.

[John McClane]

yah i guess she never said she didnt have any but not knowing who they are or being able to contact them is basically not having any..

 

No its absolutely freaking not.

 

When someone says they don't have team mates it means that have NONE. When they say they have team mates it means they have SOME. The entire premise of this nagging case you are making up about me, is based on YOU not being intelligent enough to tell the difference between "none" and "some" ... and then YOU subsequently putting words in her mouth and my own.

 

I don't even care that she doesn't know who they are. The fact here is that she said she has team mates. PERIOD. You said she said she doesn't. PERIOD. Then you tried to spin something I said as a contradiction of some sort, when in fact, its YOU pumping the thread full of misinformation.

 

I have a hard time believing you've suddenly become very, very illogical and stupid. So, I've got to assume you have ulterior motives.

 

I told you all the truth. I'm not dying.

 

 

I am actually a little disappointed. After all the games that I have played with you lot, after all the times I have made claims or said things, has no one ever realized that I NEVER lie? I avoid at all cost answering whether or not I am Mafia on the few times that I am. I avoid answering questions that I don't want to answer. But, I never lie.

 

 

Now, yes, this is the game of lying, and lying well, enough to convince others. But instead, I play dodging the questions that can snag me, and stick to the truth. You can't screw up your words if you are always telling the same story, which is the truth.

 

 

And no one has ever noticed that about me. Sad.

 

 

SOOO ape boy are you messing up my name on purpuse cause you feel supior or is it accicdental? Ive noticed that you like to take other logic and break it apart and then call people dense...is that your mafia stratagie...to bully your way to the win?

 

so ill say it again...i agree that this extra day could get here another kill or whatever.. but i dont think so..and where about to find out..i never had a problem with that.. i just didnt feel like participating in the lynch. Im not spinning, or twisting what you saying im sticking to whats wrong with it. You agreed with her about not having or know her team mates...and now you say its from your own determination.. Why didnt you say that earlier instead of going off on a tangent about converting or killing...i dont quite believe yah on that... i think alot could be learned from a lynch on you tomorrow.

 

@christine. That whole not lying thing is cool and all but it defeats the purpose of the game when you build that meta and it gets you off the hook without trying. And it makes it unfair the mafia who dosent have that advantage... if i had people in my game who have that meta i would make it against the rules to claim, or reveal.

 

Did you really just get butt hurt because I messed up your fairy princess name? Hahaha...

 

That bold sentence is a lie, by the way. I never "agreed" with Christine about anything she said. I've proven this ten times over now. STFU already...

 

Also, the comment "i think alot could be learned form a lynch on you" is one of the scummiest lines in this game, when its thrown out without the actual explanation of what would be learned. From where I sit, you lynch me and you learn my alignment... sure isn't what I'd call "a lot".

[WWWwombat]

Truly? Well, it's rather easy to tell when I am scum, because I won't come straight out and say that I am town/vanilla.

 

Which is why never lying when you play mafia is a crappy strategy and ruins the integrity of the game.

[John McClane]

Also, see? I didn't die.

 

 

Yup. So now we vetted your claim, and remove the wifom about it - and we don't even lose this day phase.

 

Unvote

Vote Lady Amegaga

 

For lying and for putting words in your mouth and mine.

[Sakaea]

Ok. Unvote

[Leelou]

unvote

[WWWwombat]

Actually, you do lose the day phase.

[J.W.]

Truly? Well, it's rather easy to tell when I am scum, because I won't come straight out and say that I am town/vanilla.

 

Which is why never lying when you play mafia is a crappy strategy and ruins the integrity of the game.

 

Lulz QFT.

[John McClane]

Actually, you do lose the day phase.

 

Vote Wombat

 

Making up rules on the fly.

 

Your last vote count didn't say official... or do we need one more vote on her because she's a +1 vote to lynch power?

[John McClane]

Oh, and to those of you whose panties I wad up... that was a joke.

[Razen]

So let me get this straight, we don't learn anything AND it's now night?

[Paperblade]

We learned that Christine can't be lynched.

[Christine]

Actually, I still seem to end up dead very often, because people seem to think that that is the game I am going to start lying. Once everyone starts believing me, then I will start lying!