Satalle Anan

[Seamus]

In Knife of Dreams, Satalle intimates to Matt that she was in the Tower and that she had been stilled. What role will she play? Who is she? If healed by Damer will she be powerful? Joline and Teslyn don't know her but knowing how stilling alters your features, was she stilled hundreds of years ago? recently? If this has been addressed please add a link to the discussion. Thanks

[Suttree]

In Knife of Dreams, Satalle intimates to Matt that she was in the Tower and that she had been stilled. What role will she play? Who is she? If healed by Damer will she be powerful? Joline and Teslyn don't know her but knowing how stilling alters your features, was she stilled hundreds of years ago? recently? If this has been addressed please add a link to the discussion. Thanks

 

In the WT she was Martine Janata...

 

An Aes Sedai who specialized in the study of ter'angreal.

Physical Description

Chronology

 

Circa 935 NE - Shortly after being raised to Aes Sedai Martine begins her study of ter'angreal. (TPoD,Ch2)

Circa 975 NE - After forty years of study she is burned out by an unknown ter'angreal. She disappears from the White Tower. (TPoD,Ch2)

Martine Janata makes her way to Ebou Dar. Jasfer Anan finds her on the streets near starvation and takes her home. She marries him and starts a new life as Setalle Anan. (KoD,Ch7, KoD,Ch9)

 

http://www.encyclopaedia-wot.org/

 

IIRC we have not seen yet if someone who has been burned out can be healed.

[2RiversFan]

check out www.encyclopaedia-wot.org.

 

I just saw from there Setalle's name was originally Martine Janata, and she specialized in the study of ter'angreal. She was 'burned out' by an unknown ter'angreal about 40 years later, in 975 NE.

 

I'm not sure if someone who is 'burned out' can be healed and be restored to being able to channel. But I've often wondered whether her staying with Mat rather than going on with the 3 Aes Sedai from Ebou Dar was good or bad news for Mat. Her excuse of wanting to get back to her family could be something real, or it could be just a cover for some other purpose. This is just another from among hundreds of items that I am going crazy over while awaiting the finale.

 

Edit: Burn you Suttree, you're too fast.

[Sharaman]

Setalle has a relationship with Tuon who respects her.

If Setalle is Healed, or maybe even if not, maybe Tuon's attitude to AS will change if she learns about the backstory.

Otherwise, it's possible that Setalle has already fulfilled her role in prophesy by being the one who is not and helping Elayne/ Nynaeve to find the Bowl.

[damandred]

check out www.encyclopaedia-wot.org.

 

I just saw from there Setalle's name was originally Martine Janata, and she specialized in the study of ter'angreal. She was 'burned out' by an unknown ter'angreal about 40 years later, in 975 NE.

 

I'm not sure if someone who is 'burned out' can be healed and be restored to being able to channel. But I've often wondered whether her staying with Mat rather than going on with the 3 Aes Sedai from Ebou Dar was good or bad news for Mat. Her excuse of wanting to get back to her family could be something real, or it could be just a cover for some other purpose. This is just another from among hundreds of items that I am going crazy over while awaiting the finale.

 

Edit: Burn you Suttree, you're too fast.

 

 

Never thought Setalle could be a DF or enemy, but suppose it is a possibility and would be typical of RJ.

I just thought she would travel with Mat until he bumped into Nynaeave, got healed and performed some small service.

Now that the ideas planted that she's not all she appears and could be shady, I really want it to play out that way. I LiKe Mistress Anon.

[kght22]

check out www.encyclopaedia-wot.org.

 

I just saw from there Setalle's name was originally Martine Janata, and she specialized in the study of ter'angreal. She was 'burned out' by an unknown ter'angreal about 40 years later, in 975 NE.

 

I'm not sure if someone who is 'burned out' can be healed and be restored to being able to channel. But I've often wondered whether her staying with Mat rather than going on with the 3 Aes Sedai from Ebou Dar was good or bad news for Mat. Her excuse of wanting to get back to her family could be something real, or it could be just a cover for some other purpose. This is just another from among hundreds of items that I am going crazy over while awaiting the finale.

 

Edit: Burn you Suttree, you're too fast.

 

 

Never thought Setalle could be a DF or enemy, but suppose it is a possibility and would be typical of RJ.

I just thought she would travel with Mat until he bumped into Nynaeave, got healed and performed some small service.

Now that the ideas planted that she's not all she appears and could be shady, I really want it to play out that way. I LiKe Mistress Anon.

 

she knew about the kin, and more than it seems the ba knew, or even other dark friends.

[2RiversFan]

Damandred said:

Never thought Setalle could be a DF or enemy, but suppose it is a possibility and would be typical of RJ.

I just thought she would travel with Mat until he bumped into Nynaeave, got healed and performed some small service.

Now that the ideas planted that she's not all she appears and could be shady, I really want it to play out that way. I LiKe Mistress Anon.

 

I've always liked Setalle as well, and I hope that she has a further role of importance to play. I don't want her to turn out to be a DF, but rather more along the lines of what Sharaman said:

 

Setalle has a relationship with Tuon who respects her.

If Setalle is Healed, or maybe even if not, maybe Tuon's attitude to AS will change if she learns about the backstory.

Otherwise, it's possible that Setalle has already fulfilled her role in prophesy by being the one who is not and helping Elayne/ Nynaeve to find the Bowl.

 

Another possibility is if she is healed she may then re-tackle the same (unknown but perhaps important) ter'angreal that burned her out, only forearmed with the knowledge of what she did wrong the first time so long ago.

 

She has huge potential plot-wise as a DF too, though.

[Luckers]

Another possibility is if she is healed she may then re-tackle the same (unknown but perhaps important) ter'angreal that burned her out, only forearmed with the knowledge of what she did wrong the first time so long ago.

 

Possibly the ter'angreal in the Tower that Nynaeve and Elayne found via need that would a) help Rand and b) bind the Aes Sedai too him.

[2RiversFan]

Possibly the ter'angreal in the Tower that Nynaeve and Elayne found via need that would a) help Rand and b) bind the Aes Sedai too him.

 

I had to research what you refer to, since I had no recollection of it. According to www.encyclopaedia-wot.org, that 'need' drove Nyneave and Elayne to the WT storeroom in LoC 13. Judging by the way it is written in the chapter summary, it appears to be a chekov's gun - but I can't read the chapter right now because I don't have LoC checked out from my public library.

 

I am very interested in your thoughts about why you think it will be used to 'help Rand' and 'bind Aes Sedai to him'. Was this a shot in the dark or does it coincide with a theory of yours? I usually try to keep away from TheoryLand and most theory threads - when I finally get to read it, I want everything in aMoL to be as fresh/new a concept as possible. I can't always stop myself though... :P

[Agitel]

Possibly the ter'angreal in the Tower that Nynaeve and Elayne found via need that would a) help Rand and b) bind the Aes Sedai too him.

 

I had to research what you refer to, since I had no recollection of it. According to www.encyclopaedia-wot.org, that 'need' drove Nyneave and Elayne to the WT storeroom in LoC 13. Judging by the way it is written in the chapter summary, it appears to be a chekov's gun - but I can't read the chapter right now because I don't have LoC checked out from my public library.

 

I am very interested in your thoughts about why you think it will be used to 'help Rand' and 'bind Aes Sedai to him'. Was this a shot in the dark or does it coincide with a theory of yours? I usually try to keep away from TheoryLand and most theory threads - when I finally get to read it, I want everything in aMoL to be as fresh/new a concept as possible. I can't always stop myself though... :P

 

I don't know if it would bind the Aes Sedai too him, but there's a theory floating around that Rand will need to use T'A'R to bind the Dark One away. Verin had a conversation with Egwene in tDR about her theory that if the DO escapes in one world he's loose in all, but also mentioned that T'A'R happens to span all the worlds. Given the prominence of T'A'R, and Verin's conversation with Egwene that Rand will have to confront the DO in a manner different than what he thinks is necessary, this may be the key.

[msbee]

Now that you mention it, it makes perfect sense to have Setalle have something to do with that unexplained ter'angreal. But I always had her down as a mediator between the Seanchan and the AS.

The time she's spent in discussion with Tuon, the fact that she has earned Tuon's respect, her understanding of channeling combined with the fact that she can not channel herself...

Maybe the two sub-plots will combine somehow.

[Luckers]

Possibly the ter'angreal in the Tower that Nynaeve and Elayne found via need that would a) help Rand and b) bind the Aes Sedai too him.

 

I had to research what you refer to, since I had no recollection of it. According to www.encyclopaedia-wot.org, that 'need' drove Nyneave and Elayne to the WT storeroom in LoC 13. Judging by the way it is written in the chapter summary, it appears to be a chekov's gun - but I can't read the chapter right now because I don't have LoC checked out from my public library.

 

I am very interested in your thoughts about why you think it will be used to 'help Rand' and 'bind Aes Sedai to him'. Was this a shot in the dark or does it coincide with a theory of yours? I usually try to keep away from TheoryLand and most theory threads - when I finally get to read it, I want everything in aMoL to be as fresh/new a concept as possible. I can't always stop myself though... :P

 

My one thought was that it may be a ter'angreal involved in either the original drilling of the bore, or in the attempt to free the Dark One that Lews Therin thwarted which began the War of the Shadow.

[2RiversFan]

 

I don't know if it would bind the Aes Sedai too him, but there's a theory floating around that Rand will need to use T'A'R to bind the Dark One away. Verin had a conversation with Egwene in tDR about her theory that if the DO escapes in one world he's loose in all, but also mentioned that T'A'R happens to span all the worlds. Given the prominence of T'A'R, and Verin's conversation with Egwene that Rand will have to confront the DO in a manner different than what he thinks is necessary, this may be the key.

 

I don't feel strongly about any specific event that may come or how Rand's confrontation at SG may play out, but this theory and the one Luckers talks about seem as likely as others I've seen and more likely than others to me. Both of them could be correct - they aren't mutually exclusive.

 

 

Now that you mention it, it makes perfect sense to have Setalle have something to do with that unexplained ter'angreal. But I always had her down as a mediator between the Seanchan and the AS.

The time she's spent in discussion with Tuon, the fact that she has earned Tuon's respect, her understanding of channeling combined with the fact that she can not channel herself...

Maybe the two sub-plots will combine somehow.

 

I'm with you. I think that Setalle's backstory wasn't merely fluff within the series and is in fact a small but key piece of the overall puzzle. I'm leaning towards the ter'angreal, but you correctly point out that Fortuona respects her which may prove to be a boon for Rand Sedai.

 

My one thought was that it may be a ter'angreal involved in either the original drilling of the bore, or in the attempt to free the Dark One that Lews Therin thwarted which began the War of the Shadow.

 

The part about LTT thwarting the drilling; is that conjecture on your part or is it somewhere in the books? I don't recall him thwarting the attempt to drill, but I do find my memory failing me too often...

[Suttree]

My one thought was that it may be a ter'angreal involved in either the original drilling of the bore, or in the attempt to free the Dark One that Lews Therin thwarted which began the War of the Shadow.

 

The part about LTT thwarting the drilling; is that conjecture on your part or is it somewhere in the books? I don't recall him thwarting the attempt to drill, but I do find my memory failing me too often...

 

It wasn't to do with drilling the bore, he stopped a later attempt to free the DO which started the War of the Shadow.

[2RiversFan]

Ah - of course. I was wondering if the 'attempted thwarting of drilling' was in the Guide, which is the only book of WoT I haven't read.