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Agitel

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  1. I think the Aryth Ocean is just depicted as too wide on that map. Regarding the nature of time in The Wheel of Time, it seems linear and without beginning. However, the course of events/history in the WoT is cyclical.
  2. Hi, Chowie! This topic was last active in 2008. Then again, I don't think people here care too much about "necro bumping". My own thoughts on the why the saidar one melted is just a flaw in the making of the sa'angreal, or just otherwise the way it was constructed resulted in a failing. That and saidin and saidar being different.
  3. While there is no official religion in the Wheel of Time, the Children of the Light and the Aes Sedai provide rather different takes on what human relations to the One Power should be, and that his theological significance for people. There are people who sympathize with the Children more than Aes Sedai, even if most governments formally recognize the Aes Sedai as a near religious institution in authority. And if you think about it, both Children and Aes Sedai tend to be bullies in their own way, using their respective power (or threat of it) to get their way. The Children are tole
  4. Martin has always been protective of his characters. They are real to him, in a way. He has stated he doesn't want another author to pick it up if he passes. That may end up being the case, or he might just not want to be talking about such things just yet. Regarding whether or not he owes his fans anything, I can be on board with that. I think his comments there need to be taken in context the abuse he got from some fans while Feast and Dance were being written.
  5. I think we're trying too hard if we're trying to work in real-world cosmology and evolution into The Wheel of Time. Randland is set on Earth. But obviously it's a fictional, mythological alternative history in which we suspend our disbelief. Everything going on is the origin of Norse mythology with Tyr, Thor, Odin, etc.... And it's also at the same time Ragnarok. Plus other mythological/religious/legendary motifs are worked in.
  6. I disagree with this. I made a topic eleven (!!!) years ago looking at the geography, and honestly I think Randland-through-Shara maps up to Europe, North Africa, and most of Asia insanely well. I know much of Africa is "gone" but looking closely at maps of North Africa I feel like hints of the Shadow Coast and even Tremalking are present. I post additional pictures later in the topic, too.
  7. Perhaps it's not explicit and we've been told it's left to the reader's interpretation, but "I am not sure why you think..." is a bit of a strong criticism here.
  8. We do hear from the Creator once. He speaks to Rand at the end of The Eye of the World. The Dark One remains somewhat mysterious. We don't have a breakdown of who or what he is. But he seems very one-dimensional, and I don't mean that as a criticism of the books. He's influential, but he seems made up of the worst of all human traits, and this limits him as he's pretty much only these traits coalesced into some aware-of-itself force. He keeps running the same strategy over and over again. He doesn't think of anything else because he doesn't understand goodness. He seems ultimately
  9. That's sort of my take. He's so intimately familiar with the True Source now it's not even about weaving anymore. Edit: Someone mentioned T'A'R above, and perhaps Rand learned to make possibilities of alternate worlds (like through the Portal Stones) present in some way. *shrugs*
  10. Are they conceived before or after Rand's soul is in Moridin's body? The dark hair and dark eyes seems to suggest after, but it's been awhile since I've read the last three books.
  11. I'm not entirely opposed to these types of arguments. I know I've made them for other adaptations, while defending increased diversification in others. The nations in the books are all very carefully developed. I don't know if I'm older, have seen more adaptations come and go (compared to myself in the past), or for some reason am just more okay with these types of liberties being taken in the WoT, but honestly... It just doesn't bother me here.
  12. She probably would have asked more questions if not for Winternight, and the Shadow targeted all three. If the Shadow wanted them that's good enough for her.
  13. I expect A Place of Safety to be Shadar Logoth (an ironic title, but one the gang thought would be true since it sheltered them from trollocs) or have to do with evens soon after Shadar Logoth if the gang splits up. The Dragon Reborn will be Caemlyn and surrounding events. Episode 5 will be titled The Eye of the World and will be the climax of the first book. Episode 6 is the start of TGH.
  14. The only thing that very minorly gets me is Pike's height, but for a TV adaptation it's not a big deal for me. There are far more important concerns. I'll add that it's very difficult for a younger actor to bring the sort of gravitas that Moiraine's character needs.
  15. I remember Jordan comparing their speech (often described by the main characters as a "drawl") to a Texan drawl. Beyond how he imagined their speech I don't think there are any cultural similarities.
  16. This is a world of magic, and Rand is not dealing with a normal mental illness but one caused by magical corruption. In fact, we see what must be a magical protection for him later when Nynaeve looks at the way the taint has settled on his mind.
  17. The westlands is Europe, north Africa, and west Asia, which places Dragonmount in eastern Europe/western Asia. Look at the world map. You can see practically all of Asia to the east, and even the worn down Himalayas above the Termool. My old thoughts on this. There was another topic I went into my analysis, but I can't find it right now. I always meant to revisit Seanchan. The southern portion is northern South America and then some. I also meant to take a real globe and modify it to Randland, but ah well...
  18. In the Two Rivers, the prefix "al" is like how in Ireland and Scotland you have family names starting with O, Mc, and Mac. It just means "son of". Or among the Danish ending a name with "son". At some point it just became a family name instead of actually being about that person's actual father. I believe the prefix "ay" is actually "daughter of." You see this particularly when Moiraine's talking about old Manetheren king's and queens. Interestingly, and it may be nothing as the name just may be common, one of the old Manetheren king's names was Thorin.
  19. I will be thinking of specifics more, but I'm okay with significant condensing, so long as the tone and character development is on point. I can imagine season two ending in the Stone of Tear, for example. I was fine with what was originally proposed for the Dornish plot in A Game of Thrones, for example, but felt that what we got was just terrible television and didn't feel remotely correct.
  20. I do love Sanderson's original works, and I'm very happy that he was able to step in and dedicate so much time and effort into wrapping up the series for Jordan, going well-beyond what was originally agreed to in order to do it. And certainly stepping into someone else's massive epic fantasy and having to tie it up is no easy task, and near impossible and one I imagine most authors would balk at, and one that absolutely no one could do perfectly. And, for whatever reason, I think there were problems in the editing (and I do not pin the blame on any one person), particularly with Towers of Midn
  21. I have not re-read the series since my early twenties, and I would very much like to do so again at some point. I never got that impression from the women. I always kind of saw it as "female bias" and "female privilege" in their world, to put it in modern day terms I wouldn't have thought of a few years ago. It's even more than that, though, it's a bit of a photo negative of the way "patriarchal men" have thought of women in the real world for thousands of years. It's not a direct one-to-one comparison, mind, and Jordan really emphasized a tension between the sexes as being a constant motif th
  22. Yea. That's a mistake. Put your stuff into books, not into interviews. Seriously. BTw how do we know she wnt to other world? Let's not be too judgmental on this point too soon. We're obviously still supposed to find Jasnah's disappearance a mystery. We'll see how Brandon explains it. At this point, I don't think you're expected to know this just yet. It's not a "you have to read the other books to get it" fact just yet. I mean, it might help you pick up on things sooner, but allow him the next book to actually clarify what happened with her. That magic system point might not re
  23. I doubt Sanderson will leave it unexplained. He'll have to put it all together in this series, not just say "oh you have to have read my other books."
  24. I'm intrigued by what Sanderson's doing with the introduction of some Warbreaker elements, particularly near the end. This is more than just the usual Easter Eggs. I'm not saying it's a good or a bad idea. It could go horribly wrong for people who aren't dedicated fans. But I'm curious.
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