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[Nolder]

  On 2/2/2012 at 6:36 PM, aemonkristen said:

That would be a very, very bad move for the cop...

kind of irrelevant really

I am not saying I agree with this approach or that I would take it myself

it is just one explanation for why someone might vote without giving a reason

[aemonkristen]

  On 2/2/2012 at 5:02 PM, aemonkristen said:

 

In essence, I said: Have a reason to vote for someone and explain it or you look like Scummy McScummerson. I have personally seen you go after people who vote without explaining their reasons, so seeing you take this opposite stance looks scummy.

 

  On 2/2/2012 at 4:07 PM, Nolder said:

 

I agree. You should always have some kind of reason for voting somebody. I do not agree that you must always include that reason with your vote. Although if you choose not to do so you should have a (good) reason for that as well.

 

  On 2/2/2012 at 5:02 PM, aemonkristen said:

What would you consider a good reason for not explaining your vote on someone? The only reasons for not explaining your vote is because you are just going along with the crowd, you are throwing out a random vote, or you have a personal grudge against the person that precludes any in-game scumminess. I say again, every vote after activity begins needs to have a reason or it is suspect.

 

  On 2/2/2012 at 6:46 PM, Nolder said:

  On 2/2/2012 at 6:36 PM, aemonkristen said:

That would be a very, very bad move for the cop...

kind of irrelevant really

I am not saying I agree with this approach or that I would take it myself

it is just one explanation for why someone might vote without giving a reason

 

Hardly irrelevant. The entire topic was what constitutes a GOOD reason for not explaining a vote. There are a million bad reasons for not explaining a vote.

[Nolder]

I'm sorry

I misunderstood you

given the context of your post I thought you simply could not think of a reason not that you were actually asking my opinion on what I would be consider a good reason to withhold reasoning with a vote

 

here's an example I definitely agree with: getting reactions

[aemonkristen]

We must have vastly differing ideas of good. Even on day 1, throwing a vote on somebody without a reason (even as a joke) will cause the voter to get called out for not providing a reason. Yes, this is a reaction, but not one that helps find scum. It is quite helpful to provide fodder for your own lynch, however.

[Nolder]

hey so I love debating about the "rights" and "wrongs" of mafia but I think we're starting to distract everyone from the actual game here

let's get back to scumhunting eh?

I'd invite you to PM me if you want to continue this conversation but uhhh since we're both in a game together that might be borderline breaking the rules even if we didn't discuss THIS game

but if you feel the need hit me up after one of us dies and I'll glady pick this up where we left off

 

although I admit I think it will just end in us agreeing to disagree with each other because I honestly do not see things your way

[Perfexionist]

Unvote as my vote wasn't serious.

[Sakaea]

And ping again. What is it lately with people having to point out that a joke vote was a joke vote?

[John E. Kelley]

I really hope Nol and Aemon are done.

 

For all of our sakes, please just do what feels right Len, and in return, we'll all stop offering advice.

 

You may now return to your regularly scheduled DM Mafia game.

[aemonkristen]

agreed

[Blackhoof]

Vote Count

 

Christine (1)- Nolder

Nolder (1)- Red

Bg (1)- Sakaea, Ishy, lenlo

Ishy (1)- BG

 

With 12 alive, 7 is needed to lynch

 

Deadline- 9AM February 7 EST

[Amadine]

Been quite a long time since i have seen a decent gambit attempt...

[Blackhoof]

A bit random, but thats cool.

[aemonkristen]

And Ama comes in to plant the seeds of a lynch. Ping

[bgrishinko]

Yeah, gotta say I'm not sure what Ama is getting at. Are you implying the Nolder/Aemon debate is a gambit?

[Amadine]

Not implying anything - just mentioning what my thought process was when reading all of that rubbish.

[Nolder]

lol so your thought process upon reading the thread is "I haven't seen a decent gambit in awhile" and that's not implying that you think a gambit is taking place?

 

honestly I'm not sure why you even bothered to deny that

[Amadine]

I'm not denying anything Nolder - as i read your argument i got the feeling you may have been trying to pull a gambit and i posted as such. My feeling. I did say you WERE pulling a gambit.

 

The reactions to my post are much more interesting though.

[Amadine]

i didn't** say you were pulling a gambit.

[Nolder]

I never said you said I was pulling a gambit

I said you were implying it

 

but let's not get into an argument about what I thought you said and what you thought I said about what you said etc etc

 

what exactly are you trying to say? that you think Aeomn and I are pulling a gambit?

[Amadine]

No I don't think you are trying to pull a gambit, I merely think it is a possibility.

[Sakaea]

You don't think they are, but you think it's a possibility? Contradiction much? :confused:

[Amadine]

What I am trying to say is it is a possibility. Like many things in mafia. Its all just WIFOM I know, but better to air the possibilities than to just let it go and get caught out later. I'd have straight out accused and FoSed them if I truly thought that was what they were up too.

 

I actually find the responses much more interesting than the argument.

[Nolder]

I am getting the sense you are townie Ama but I think you're making a mistake

 

if you don't think it's actually a gambit or that there is a good chance that it's a gambit then all you've done by bring it up is sew WIFOM and distract the town

good intentions but I think it would have been better for you to keep it to yourself until you were more sure one way or another

 

anyway enough of that

let's move on shall we?

the deadline is creeping up and only half of our players are voting

let's get some more votes and wild accusations going people!

[Red2111]

UNVOTE

 

VOTE: AMA

 

for the gambit comment honeslty and her reactions to people poking her about it.

 

 

if you want a more indepth reason, it'll have to wiat until sometime monday. me and my home PC are not on good terms right now

[Perfexionist]

Hmm, trying to decipher something out of all this