[Basic] Saw Mafia - Day 6

[Red2111]

Just to clarify, when we got replacement players, did you unvote for all of us mod?

 

yes, if a person is replaced then all votes on the original player are defaulted back to "No Vote".

[John E. Kelley]

Then in that case, it appears that there have been two players who could conceivably have legit cases built against them. Nol's defending of Chrissy and Nyn seemed like scum defending his teammates. Hoof's weak case on Verb seemed like scum trying to get an early easy lynch on a townie. And at this point, if Chrissy and Nyn were indeed Nol's teammates, we should definitely see what Louii and Ed have to say.

 

At this point I will Vote Nol.

[Nolder]

Then in that case, it appears that there have been two players who could conceivably have legit cases built against them. Nol's defending of Chrissy and Nyn seemed like scum defending his teammates. Hoof's weak case on Verb seemed like scum trying to get an early easy lynch on a townie. And at this point, if Chrissy and Nyn were indeed Nol's teammates, we should definitely see what Louii and Ed have to say.

 

At this point I will Vote Nol.

1. it appears you guys are going in that direction anyway

2. a small measure of self-preservation ;-)

 

Vote: Christine

while I don't agree with your reasoning

I agree on this vote

Christine is one of those people who potentially had blackhoofs vote and I intend to find out which person that was because that person had to be scum I'm almost positive

there would be no other reason to hide who you are

 

so

Vote: Christine

 

Nolder opens his eyes and raises an eyebrow

[Leyrann]

Could you explain, special for not-so-intelligent people like me, why you posted that quotes, and in a reversed order, Nolder?

[Sakaea]

Just to clarify, my list of people I wanted to hear from, Chrissy and Nyn were inactive, Hoof and Ley I just wanted to hear more from. It's not that you two were inactive, I just wanted to hear more from you. Amega, however, is more on the inactive side atm.

Welcome to the game, Ed and Louii.

[Nolder]

Could you explain, special for not-so-intelligent people like me, why you posted that quotes, and in a reversed order, Nolder?

Nol's defending of Chrissy and Nyn seemed like scum defending his teammates.

At this point I will Vote Nol.

Vote: Christine

[Sakaea]

So we have a deadline sometime Thursday. At the moment, now that Chrissy and Nyn have been replaced, I'm not going to vote again til we hear from Ed and Louii. What do you guys think so far?

[JenLenaMom]

I think we are practically backed to square one.

[Leelou]

On my suspicious list right now:

 

Nol - your strong defense of not voting the inactives seemed like a teammate trying to cover. Once it looked like it was going no where you changed with the flow. Interestingly, you voted for Christine.

 

Tina - in response to your FOS @ me - I posted more than just vote counts. I defended my vote on Nyn and answered the question you asked me. Also you were persuaded easily enough to change views, but when you did unvote, you voted for another of our more inactive player. Also, there was your quick bandwagoning on a joke vote during day 1. Yes, you can throw this back in my face and say I voted you and was on the bandwagon position, but I voted you with a reason.

 

Ameg - for disappearing, even though in the past claims to hate inactives.

 

Louii(Nyn) - I know you just joined in, but please share thoughts. This is what Nyn did and part of the reason I voted for her.

 

I feel comfortable right now with a vote on Tina

[Nolder]

Nol - your strong defense of not voting the inactives seemed like a teammate trying to cover. Once it looked like it was going no where you changed with the flow. Interestingly, you voted for Christine.

Christine is one of those people who potentially had blackhoofs vote and I intend to find out which person that was because that person had to be scum I'm almost positive

there would be no other reason to hide who you are

 

so

Vote: Christine

Nolder opens his eyes, rolls them, and closes them again

[Sakaea]

Nice PR there, Nolder.

[Red2111]

Deadline

 

12 alive, 7 to lynch

 

22:39:54

 

Vote Count

 

Amega (1): Tina

Tina (1): Leelou

 

No Vote (10): Louii, Amega, Ley, Ed, Ishy, Verbal, Nol, Sakaea, JLM, Hoof

[Leyrann]

I honestly don't know who to vote. The most important reason is that there is really nothing going on - we even didn't have a Night Kill to get information from -, and no one is looking really scummy.

 

But because I don't like random lynches (except if I would otherwise be the one lynched), I'll say who I find most suspicious. But it'll take another 24 hours to vote (because that is most likely the last time I'm active before deadline).

 

Mostly, I don't like Nolder. He just keeps defending inactive players, while it seems all others say they don't like it, and it is, indeed, weird to vote one of those inactive players at the same time.

 

There are, as Leelou said, also reasons to vote Tina. For me still mostly because she had that third joke vote on the same person (was that person Sakaea? I don't know anymore...). You don't do that with joke votes. I think two is the highest you should ever do. Maybe only one.

[Sakaea]

Yeah, it was me. I think I got up to like L-2 or somethine. It was scary, since it was a joke vote bandwagon.

[Leyrann]

Well, it was still L-4. You only had three votes. But for joke votes, I really say it's too much.

[Niniel]

I do like to kick start games with bandwagons. I had nothing on Sakaea but we needed something to talk about. General chatting for four pages can be fun but the earlier the game starts the better I think.

 

Welcome, Louii!!! It´s great that you found your way over here. And yeh, welcome Ed too I guess.

 

I still haven´t heard a word from Amega. Where are you?

[Verbal32]

Could you explain, special for not-so-intelligent people like me, why you posted that quotes, and in a reversed order, Nolder?

Nol's defending of Chrissy and Nyn seemed like scum defending his teammates.

At this point I will Vote Nol.

Vote: Christine

 

 

Nice try, Nolder. It's called "bussing a teammate". You are trying to make him contradict himself, but you take it out of context. You did appear to defend Christine/Nyn while you were spouting off about inactives. You voting one of them, if they are your teammates, can be simply chalked up to bussing.

 

But you trying to make Ishy contradict himself pings me even more than potential bussing.

 

Vote: Nolder

[Nolder]

[John E. Kelley]

We may also need to take a look Amega, this is far too long at this point.

[Nolder]

You did appear to defend Christine/Nyn while you were spouting off about inactives. You voting one of them, if they are your teammates, can be simply chalked up to bussing.

Christine is one of those people who potentially had blackhoofs vote and I intend to find out which person that was because that person had to be scum I'm almost positive

there would be no other reason to hide who you are

Nolder opens his eyes and points to blackhoof. He then points to himself, Ed, Nynaeve, and Amegakure in turn. He then points at Ed for a long moment. After he puts his hand down he closes his eyes again.

[John E. Kelley]

Can you point to anything showing where Christine was Hoof's vote-holder? When was she ever active enough in-game to even know his vote was up for grabs? I'm not denying she was scum, she very well may have been, but I don't see where she would just pop in and grab Hoof's vote then never play again. Because whoever had it moved Hoof's vote after it was up for grabs. And the chances of Christine doing that just to never play other than that seems very doubtful to me.

[Louise]

Welcome, Louii!!! It´s great that you found your way over here. And yeh, welcome Ed too I guess.

Thanks! Could't believe my luck. Though maybe luck isn't the word when yo consider the fact that I seem to be near the top of the suspicious list!

 

I still haven´t heard a word from Amega. Where are you?

I too would very much like to hear something from Amega.

So far he' given us, 2 votes (one of which was very early on) and a handful of fairly pointless posts. The post of his with the most sustanence to it was the one slamming Mawth, (who was obviously revealed to be a Townie) for his 'scummy' attitude.

 

The Nolder argument does have some merit, but as I'm not entirely convinced yet, if some more, solid evidence against him comes to light, I will be willing to shift my vote but for now I'm going to go for someone who, to me, seems to be acting more suspicious at this point in time.

Voting Amegakure

[Nolder]

Can you point to anything showing where Christine was Hoof's vote-holder? When was she ever active enough in-game to even know his vote was up for grabs? I'm not denying she was scum, she very well may have been, but I don't see where she would just pop in and grab Hoof's vote then never play again. Because whoever had it moved Hoof's vote after it was up for grabs. And the chances of Christine doing that just to never play other than that seems very doubtful to me.

Nolder opens his eyes, looks up, shakes his head, and closes his eyes again, back to whatever it is he's doing.

[John E. Kelley]

Can you point to anything showing where Christine was Hoof's vote-holder? When was she ever active enough in-game to even know his vote was up for grabs? I'm not denying she was scum, she very well may have been, but I don't see where she would just pop in and grab Hoof's vote then never play again. Because whoever had it moved Hoof's vote after it was up for grabs. And the chances of Christine doing that just to never play other than that seems very doubtful to me.

Nolder opens his eyes, looks up, shakes his head, and closes his eyes again, back to whatever it is he's doing.

 

Didn't think so. And despite your attempts to alter the timeline in your posts, anyone can see that I made my fos's at you before you ever voted Chrissy. And attempting to vote her after I made most of my case against you and it was pretty obvious that lynching the inactives was the way we were headed, just reeks of distancing to save yourself.

[Niniel]

I honestly don't know who to vote. The most important reason is that there is really nothing going on - we even didn't have a Night Kill to get information from -, and no one is looking really scummy.

 

But because I don't like random lynches (except if I would otherwise be the one lynched), I'll say who I find most suspicious. But it'll take another 24 hours to vote (because that is most likely the last time I'm active before deadline).

 

Mostly, I don't like Nolder. He just keeps defending inactive players, while it seems all others say they don't like it, and it is, indeed, weird to vote one of those inactive players at the same time.

 

There are, as Leelou said, also reasons to vote Tina. For me still mostly because she had that third joke vote on the same person (was that person Sakaea? I don't know anymore...). You don't do that with joke votes. I think two is the highest you should ever do. Maybe only one.

 

I don´t know if he has defended inactive players more then I have but he has been strongly against lynching inactive players and voting Christine at the same time is scummy. Bad timing to have a PR right now, Nolder.

 

 

We may also need to take a look Amega, this is far too long at this point.

 

This is what I´m trying to say!