Just Read New Spring

[NitroS]

Cant believe everyone hates on the book so much, i found it to be really interesting filled a lot of information in on how it all started, i heard the 3rd book in the prequel series was supose to show the events that moraine took to reach the two rivers will it still be written by brandon sanderson or any information released on it with RJ death?. Was it ever revealed in the eye of the world or great hunt what brought her to the two rivers that hinted the dragon was living there?

 

thanks

[Elend]

I enjoyed New Spring- never really heard of any hate regarding it, really.

 

To my knowledge there are no plans for the prequels, nor outrigger novels, to be written at this date.

[username13]

I liked NS also. One thing I would have liked to see though, was more White Towery stuff about the raisings and finding out Ajah traditions for other Ajah's, though would have been difficult from Moiraines perspective

[Sid]

Cant believe everyone hates on the book so much, i found it to be really interesting filled a lot of information in on how it all started, i heard the 3rd book in the prequel series was supose to show the events that moraine took to reach the two rivers will it still be written by brandon sanderson or any information released on it with RJ death?. Was it ever revealed in the eye of the world or great hunt what brought her to the two rivers that hinted the dragon was living there?

 

thanks

There's no final decision yet on whether the prequels will be written.

 

As for why she was in the Two Rivers, I'm sure there's more to it than this, but I think the al'Thors and the Two Rivers are mentioned in NS when she and Siuan are going through the huge list of names they got from their census. They could have just been going through the list and got around to the al'Thor's child around 20 years after they started looking.

 

As far as hating on New Spring, I don't recall seeing too much of it recently since it's pretty good. But when it came out, it's not what people wanted to read. They wanted the next part of the main story, not some prequel (even though it was a nice addition to the series). Plus, CoT was such a disappointment in advancing the story along that it just exacerbated the situation.

[username13]

I had the feeling Tam and Kari weren't on the list, but were a rumour Moiraine and Suian came across on their search, likely one of many.

[Random Man]

I had the feeling Tam and Kari weren't on the list, but were a rumour Moiraine and Suian came across on their search, likely one of many.

No, they were on the short list so to speak. Moiraine specifically thought about it in NS. At that point it was just one of many names, though.

[NitroS]

really i dont remember reading that an al'thor was mentioned considering tam found him and then went to the two rivers thinking that he will be back with his wife, how could kari be on the list cause tam was coming back from the war, also wouldnt she have spoken to the birth parents instead even tho his mother died.

 

Also in New spring moraine says that its just her and siuan that knows he was only just born as black ajah were killing lucky people but moraine said that the trollocs were attacking people of rands age??

[NitroS]

in regards to the hate i was refering to the wiki page where it says the fans were not satisfied (I only started the series in july 2010 so i wasnt bothered by the order)

[David Selig]

I had the feeling Tam and Kari weren't on the list, but were a rumour Moiraine and Suian came across on their search, likely one of many.

No, they were on the short list so to speak. Moiraine specifically thought about it in NS. At that point it was just one of many names, though.

IIRC Kari and Tam bein on the list was included only in the novella version of New Spring, in the novel version this was removed.

[SuperFade]

That book set a new record on how many times the word 'boychild' could be used in a single piece of literature.

 

I enjoyed it at least.

[Pilz]

I thought it was pretty good. More for the Lan story than the WT stuff.

 

There should not be an al'Thor on that list, since no al'Thor had a child in that area at that time.

 

Tigraine gave birth on Dragonmount. I don't understand why she was there, though.

[Mulk]

I thought it was pretty good. More for the Lan story than the WT stuff.

 

There should not be an al'Thor on that list, since no al'Thor had a child in that area at that time.

 

Tigraine gave birth on Dragonmount. I don't understand why she was there, though.

 

SPOILERS FROM THE SHADOW RISING

 

Tigraine went to the Aiel at the urging of Gitara Moreso, and became a Maiden of the Spear; that was on the basis of a Foretelling. She also fell in love with the Taardad clan chief, Janduin. When he led four clans across the Dragonwall to find and kill Laman for cutting down the tree the Aiel had given to Cairhien something like 400 years prior, she was in the army. Along the way, she became pregnant, but she refused to return home and Janduin would not order her to do so, and in the last battle where Laman was finally killed, which occurred before Tar Valon and ranged across the slopes of Dragonmount, she was separated from the other Aiel and gave birth. We find all of this out when Rand goes to Rhuidean, though you don't get all of the pieces to put together than Tigraine = Shaiel (her name among the Maidens) until later on; at least I don't think you do but I could be mistaken on that.

[Sid]

Oh yes, I remembered I had a copy of Legends kicking around

 

There were too many entries like "Seara Deosin. Husband Eadwin. From Murandy. A son?" A whole country to search, on a pair of names to go by, and no certainty the woman had borne a boy. Too many like "Kari al'Thor. From Andor? Husband Tamlin, Second Captain of the Illianer Companions, took discharge." That pair might have gone anywhere in the world, and there was doubt she had had a child at all.

[Pilz]

I thought it was pretty good. More for the Lan story than the WT stuff.

 

There should not be an al'Thor on that list, since no al'Thor had a child in that area at that time.

 

Tigraine gave birth on Dragonmount. I don't understand why she was there, though.

 

SPOILERS FROM THE SHADOW RISING

 

Tigraine went to the Aiel at the urging of Gitara Moreso, and became a Maiden of the Spear; that was on the basis of a Foretelling. She also fell in love with the Taardad clan chief, Janduin. When he led four clans across the Dragonwall to find and kill Laman for cutting down the tree the Aiel had given to Cairhien something like 400 years prior, she was in the army. Along the way, she became pregnant, but she refused to return home and Janduin would not order her to do so, and in the last battle where Laman was finally killed, which occurred before Tar Valon and ranged across the slopes of Dragonmount, she was separated from the other Aiel and gave birth. We find all of this out when Rand goes to Rhuidean, though you don't get all of the pieces to put together than Tigraine = Shaiel (her name among the Maidens) until later on; at least I don't think you do but I could be mistaken on that.

 

Thanks. I knew she was in the Aiel Army, but just didn't know why she was in that battle while she was on the verge of having a baby.

[Mulk]

One last tidbit which might help explain her refusal to go back (and I only just remembered this): Gitara told her she could not return until the Maidens had gone to Tar Valon - I personally think she harbored the hope of finding the son she left behind in Andor once the Maidens had made it to Tar Valon but there is no real way of knowing.