Inactivity

[Kivam]

Yeah, when i wrote it i thought it wouldn't be too nice.

 

I'd play!

 

The best games are those when everyone has things to say, i love them! When I first started playing, there was only ever one on the boards in fiddles. So I guess there was no where else to get your fix. And there was ones that played all the time. They never seemed to get quiet, things were going on all the time!

 

I really do think that is the key. Same at JN - only one game runs at a time (with maybe a small side game for people who got killed early) - which means that people who sign up really want to play, so you get activity

[Kivam]

I think the problem partly stems from general activity on the site down as a whole. With the switch to 8.0 and all the maintenance mode stuff, people just haven't been online as much. And when they do, they are probably checking in on their Orgs before starting a new mafia game.

 

And there are definitely those that just lurk. I have a private blacklist that I keep in my head of people I won't let into a game I mod. For the rest, I think having strict activity rules will encourage people to be more active, but you'll still run into the problem of MKing people and having it affect your game.

 

All in all, the biggest concern I have is something that we all do and take part in, but I'm going to get flamed for saying. Bring most of the mafia games back into the OG board and off of the Org boards. I'm in 2 games on DM that aren't in OG, so I'm guilty as well. But when you spread out the playerbase across multiple Orgs, it really does cause people to forget where they are playing (coupled with maintenance mode not supplying new content notifications) and makes it easy to fall into a lurky playstyle.

 

I'm not saying that it's bad that mafia games are played in the Orgs - it helps with activity and just a general fun thing to do, but it does make players spread out too much and forget game as opposed to having 1 primary place (here) where most games are played. Right now, there are more games outside of OG than inside, and I'm not sure that's the best way to have it. Just my 2 cents - I'm a filthy hypocrite for even posting this, lol.

 

Agreed. I'd be in favor of a rule that says that only one mafia game at a time can be run in any of the Social Groups. Don't want to take that away from them as a social activity - but the less likely it is that we have people playing 4 and 5 games at a time, the more likely people are to be active in the games they actually are playing.

[Kivam]

LOL well I can't really see myself ever being super aggresive anyway :D I think what I mean is just pushing at people for reactions, from the start. Day 1 is always a lot of randomness and spam, and the only way to make more of it than that, I think, is to start questioning what people are saying, even if it just seems like silly spam. Some people may not like that and feel like they're being attacked for what they probably didn't mean seriously, but that's a part of mafia, and it does open the game to more on-topic discussion.

 

This. It's how I've always played, it usually gets me lynched or NK'd early . . . but damn, is it much more fun.

 

Also, people need to learn how to look at Day 1 the right way. People think it's about lynching scum, so they're quiet . . . because they don't know who scum is, so what can they say?

 

That's not what Day 1 is about. Day 1 is about building information about how people react and who they're tied to, if anyone. And you can't do that if you're quiet. The only way to do that is to vote for people, get competing trains going, and see who ends up where. Does it suck going out randomly Day 1? Yeah - which is why I never vote newbs day 1, or the person who modded the prior game, or someone who got lynched Day 1 the prior game, if I can help it. But someone has to go, and if you don't get enough information Day 1, then Day 2 is just a repeat - nobody really has anything to go on, so it's completely random.

[Kivam]

I would be willing to bet you could get

 

Lily, Song, AJ, Red, Aust, and maybe Verb, and Wombat as well.

 

Me too.

[Kivam]

That's exactly what I've started doing - staying quiet to stay alive. Unfortunately, a lot of people have, it seems. That's the biggest part of the problem. We need to promote the idea that winning isn't fun if you don't really play. And model it.

 

 

WIN SPECTACULARLY OR DIE TRYING

[Krakalakachkn]

You know what's really vexing? Having players, especially mafia, gun for you early because they think you're one of the better players. I'm really a mediocre player, but since I play so much people seem to think I'm good. I hate having a rep because I get nked so early!

[Kivam]

While you are talking to them, have them restore my mod powers. Sheesh...

 

Done

[Verbal32]

You know what's really vexing? Having players, especially mafia, gun for you early because they think you're one of the better players. I'm really a mediocre player, but since I play so much people seem to think I'm good. I hate having a rep because I get nked so early!

 

It's called Big Game Hunting. However, sometimes you'll get killed because you provide no info to the town based on your interactions.

[Kivam]

I'm not sure it would be confrontational, Verb, if it was done through the New Social Group Admin and a list kept on the Staff Board and only three Orgs at a time (for instant) could play a game. It would also make the ones in the Org less active as well...lol. But I can see where you are coming from. These place does needs to be the THE best place to play, With THE best Mods and of course Wes's games Give this place a shake up and get some good games going of different calibres and things will change. When I'm up on the Newbie board I will make sure to add a bit about the Organised Games board here (or whatever it's new name will be) and promote it a bit. Some really good WoT related games would be good and then ask Jen to Tweet it on Twitter...that may bring people in too. Once we have them we tie them down so they never leave make it so enjoyable they don't want to go!

 

Exactly. Actually, Verb - I think this is something worth bringing up on the staff board and seeing if the SGLs agree that it's an issue worth addressing.

[Verbal32]

If we want to bring it up, then that's cool. We aren't going to get a Child Board right now (Barm is a meanie!), but he did expand the # of people on PMs to accomodate the whole council.

 

Also, name....I'm leaning towards a simple "Mafia Game Board".

 

Other random names:

 

Teh Mafia Goodness (inspired by Crusher on the JN site)

I Can Haz Teh Mafia? (lolcat inspired)

The Lynch Kivam Board (not sure where that one came from.....) >_>

The NK Kivam Board (who did that?)

 

 

Thoughts?

[Red2111]

personally i like option # 4 *snuggles kiv* joking aside, i think the simple name is a really good choice. maybe once the OG gets straightened out and we get the populatrity of the games back up, then barm will let you have the child board.

 

you guys could also create a QT for now if you think PM's wont work *nods* that will act as a message board sort of.

 

 

Kiv, does this mean we can expect to play in another one of your great games once JN has stopped mafia? the Avatar game was FTW for me and one of the funnest i'd been in since DPR's Suras game.

 

although, i hae to admit, the Legends game over in the BT, and playing a bit like Mynd was really fun as well

[LilyElizabeth]

You know what's really vexing? Having players, especially mafia, gun for you early because they think you're one of the better players. I'm really a mediocre player, but since I play so much people seem to think I'm good. I hate having a rep because I get nked so early!

 

Welcome to my world. One good play and you have a rep for life around here. I won't deny that I'm a good mod, but as a player, I'm really not.

[LilyElizabeth]

As for naming, I think Wes had a point - DM Mafia Games sounds good to me. The lol cats one would be great, but.....

[hotpocket2006]

personally i like option # 4 *snuggles kiv* joking aside, i think the simple name is a really good choice. maybe once the OG gets straightened out and we get the populatrity of the games back up, then barm will let you have the child board.

 

you guys could also create a QT for now if you think PM's wont work *nods* that will act as a message board sort of.

 

 

Kiv, does this mean we can expect to play in another one of your great games once JN has stopped mafia? the Avatar game was FTW for me and one of the funnest i'd been in since DPR's Suras game.

 

although, i hae to admit, the Legends game over in the BT, and playing a bit like Mynd was really fun as well

 

Agreed. That was my first mafia game ever (and only time I've made it to endgame) and I enjoyed it immensely. Definitely one of mai fav games eva!

[Talya]

DM Mafia Game is fine, i have to admit I get bored of Lolz cats... >.>

[Kivam]

personally i like option # 4 *snuggles kiv* joking aside, i think the simple name is a really good choice. maybe once the OG gets straightened out and we get the populatrity of the games back up, then barm will let you have the child board.

 

you guys could also create a QT for now if you think PM's wont work *nods* that will act as a message board sort of.

 

 

Kiv, does this mean we can expect to play in another one of your great games once JN has stopped mafia? the Avatar game was FTW for me and one of the funnest i'd been in since DPR's Suras game.

 

although, i hae to admit, the Legends game over in the BT, and playing a bit like Mynd was really fun as well

 

LOL

 

Sure . . . I've got to put together a setup, but definitely.

[Verbal32]

Check out the shiny new board name!

 

DM Mafia Games

[hotpocket2006]

Yay!! It's so purty!

[alannalynn]

Me likey!

[LilyElizabeth]

It's all shiny and stuff.

 

Kivam, I'd love to play in a game of yours without alts. *grinz*

 

Thanks for the explanation about day 1. All this time I haven't really understood that.

[Red2111]

even in my drunken stupor i've noticed the board changed names!!  love it Verb.  often times, simplicity s the best option eheheh

 

 

 

 

can't wait for it Verb,  make sure to PM me so i can get a spot on the game!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ed2funy]

*pushes Red and watches her totter*

[Talya]

I'll be watching these boards like a hawk now, waiting for you game Kivam, lol

 

nice name Verb...*polishes it*

[aemonkristen]

I'll be watching these boards like a hawk now, waiting for you game Kivam, lol

 

nice name Verb...*polishes it*

 

Thats what she said.

[Kivam]

It's all shiny and stuff.

 

Kivam, I'd love to play in a game of yours without alts. *grinz*

Thanks for the explanation about day 1. All this time I haven't really understood that.

 

I'm assuming that was sarcasm, so . . .