Whats the deal with the BFC (big friendly cook)? Laras by the by.

[Owayn The Traveller]

Who is Laras? Who was Laras? What is Laras?

 

In the gathering storm Verin says one or two things about Laras which just seem odd.

'...when you next see Laras please thank her for supplying it(the tea)'

Now why would she want Egwene to get into a conversation with the tower cook about the poisoning of a black ajah member?

Or she could mean thank her in a fatal way I suppose.

 

'She promised it wasn't spoiled but I didnt trust her. Can't trust much these days can you?'

Why the implication not to trust Laras?

 

Egwene then aks if Laras is a darkfriend. To which Verin replies -

'She's many things but not a darkfriend' Goes on to say you wouldn't catch her swearing to the great lord.

Okay she isn't to be trusted but she isn't a darkfriend. She can't be a forsaken either as they do swear to serve the dark one.

 

So Laras cannot be trusted and this is mentioned at the same time as the tea. Now what tea would a Aes Sedai be foolish to drink? Forkroot. Now I don't know why she would be utilising forkroot in the making of tea. To be honest this is clutching at straws here I think.

 

Okay there is something fishy about Laras I think and Verin is trying to tell Egwene. Why is she being so crytic about it though as she becomes fairly candid later when she ousts the Black Ajah.

 

Has it something to do with the oath or oaths she swore to the great lord?

'I swear not to betray the Great Lord, to keep my secrets until the hour of my death.'

Verin then muses on the loop hole in this oath and wonders if the great lord is aware of it and why wouldn't he close that hole if he was?

Do the take any other oaths when becoming Black Ajah?

 

Also in the Shadow Rising when Laras helps Suiain and Leane and Min to escape she mentions something to Min that she herself use to be wild or something in her youth.

Why did Laras help them and doesn't help some of the supergirls when they are cleaning as punishment by covering for them or something?

 

 

Is it possible she could be Mesaana? Or if not what is the story here? She isn't just a cook. She's a great cook. ;)

[mossman87]

Who is Laras? Who was Laras? What is Laras?

 

In the gathering storm Verin says one or two things about Laras which just seem odd.

'...when you next see Laras please thank her for supplying it(the tea)'

Now why would she want Egwene to get into a conversation with the tower cook about the poisoning of a black ajah member?

Or she could mean thank her in a fatal way I suppose.

 

'She promised it wasn't spoiled but I didnt trust her. Can't trust much these days can you?'

Why the implication not to trust Laras?

 

Is it possible she could be Mesaana? Or if not what is the story here? She isn't just a cook. She's a great cook. ;)

 

I figure she lets the Novices and others who couldn't make it in the WT out of that trapdoor of hers to the Kin if they were up to it.

 

Also Egwene can't trust much these days because she's just being told by Verin she's Black Ajah.  Can't trust anything it seems!

[Shadow Rider]

In the gathering storm Verin says one or two things about Laras which just seem odd.

'...when you next see Laras please thank her for supplying it(the tea)'

Now why would she want Egwene to get into a conversation with the tower cook about the poisoning of a black ajah member?

 

She didn't give Verin Poison, Lara's only gave her tea that hadn't spoiled to mask the taste of the Poison.

I very much doubt Lara's new what Verin was planning to do with it.

 

[Aquarius]

Verin wants to thank Laras for the particular sweet tea that makes the poison go down ok. She doesn't wnat to thank Laras for the tea itself.

 

The "She's many things but not a DF" on the other hand is puzzling. But by know I would suppose that it's RJ/Brandon playing with us and with all Laras's fans on the forums.

 

the Messaana = Laras theory has been killed by Brandon, if I remember correctly.

[Owayn The Traveller]

I didn't know Mr Sanderson had done that.

 

Egwene- Oh Verin said thanks for the tea Laras.

 

Laras- Oh okay Amrylin. Ah where is Verin these days?

 

Egwene- ?

[mossman87]

I didn't know Mr Sanderson had done that.

 

Egwene- Oh Verin said thanks for the tea Laras.

 

Laras- Oh okay Amrylin. Ah where is Verin these days?

 

Egwene- ?

 

I'm sure there's already a plan in motion, knowing Verin, if she wanted Egwene to meet with Laras.

 

If Laras is associated with the Kin her and Setalle could help bridge any gaps with the White Tower, who really knows at this point.

[scott_swampy]

We were all wrong, Bela's not the DO. Laras is. Could this also be the BUT?  ;D

[Fains nose]

Was it sorilea who gave verin the poison to kill herself, i seem to remember a scene where sorilea is shown handing verin a vile or small package, maybe Laras was implicated to distract from sorilea being a darkfriend

[Barid Bel Medar]

Was it sorilea who gave verin the poison to kill herself, i seem to remember a scene where sorilea is shown handing verin a vile or small package, maybe Laras was implicated to distract from sorilea being a darkfriend

 

She did give that to Verin, but not as a "poison" as such.

 

She gave it to Verin to help her sleep (Im guessing Verin lied about it to use it as poison)

 

Said 1 drop will help you sleep, 3 drops will make sure you never wake.

 

 

[Owayn The Traveller]

What book was that in. I can't seem to recall that at all.

 

Oh by the way I think this discussion is null and void now. Apparently Laras is the the Dark One. I would never of guessed it. :P

[FarShainMael]

With a cookpot like that, she's probably the mother of all trollocs.

 

[Owayn The Traveller]

Well, we haven't seen an female trollocs if I recall correctly. Who knows maybe that's what they are all like.

[Barid Bel Medar]

What book was that in. I can't seem to recall that at all.

 

Oh by the way I think this discussion is null and void now. Apparently Laras is the the Dark One. I would never of guessed it. :P

 

WH, the scene where Cadsuane is confronted by the Sea Folk woman because she kidnapped the windfinder. Not sure of the exact chapter or page though. Corele is sent to "escort" the sea folk to their room. Cadsuane rips into them, that one.

[Owayn The Traveller]

Oh, I seem to vaguely remember it now. Thanks BBM.

 

It really is such an intricate series; The Wheel of Time that is.

 

Now I think that is correct.

[StefanR]

Was it sorilea who gave verin the poison to kill herself, i seem to remember a scene where sorilea is shown handing verin a vile or small package, maybe Laras was implicated to distract from sorilea being a darkfriend

 

She did give that to Verin, but not as a "poison" as such.

 

She gave it to Verin to help her sleep (Im guessing Verin lied about it to use it as poison)

 

Said 1 drop will help you sleep, 3 drops will make sure you never wake.

 

 

 

Verin got the sleeping thing to use as a poison, not to help her sleep. She thought about using it on Cadsuane but decided she had the Dragon Reborn's best interests at heart, and therefore didn't poison her tea.

[Barid Bel Medar]

Yeah, thats one of the great things about it, you can re-read the series and each time find new things that you didnt notice previously

Was it sorilea who gave verin the poison to kill herself, i seem to remember a scene where sorilea is shown handing verin a vile or small package, maybe Laras was implicated to distract from sorilea being a darkfriend

 

She did give that to Verin, but not as a "poison" as such.

 

She gave it to Verin to help her sleep (Im guessing Verin lied about it to use it as poison)

 

Said 1 drop will help you sleep, 3 drops will make sure you never wake.

 

 

 

Verin got the sleeping thing to use as a poison, not to help her sleep. She thought about using it on Cadsuane but decided she had the Dragon Reborn's best interests at heart, and therefore didn't poison her tea.

 

Which i said, but sorelia gave it to her for sleep

[Demiandre]

I didn't thought it could have been the same "product". I thought it was something else. She said it was asping root. Not liquid...

 

Yeah, thats one of the great things about it, you can re-read the series and each time find new things that you didnt notice previously

Was it sorilea who gave verin the poison to kill herself, i seem to remember a scene where sorilea is shown handing verin a vile or small package, maybe Laras was implicated to distract from sorilea being a darkfriend

 

She did give that to Verin, but not as a "poison" as such.

 

She gave it to Verin to help her sleep (Im guessing Verin lied about it to use it as poison)

 

Said 1 drop will help you sleep, 3 drops will make sure you never wake.

 

 

 

Verin got the sleeping thing to use as a poison, not to help her sleep. She thought about using it on Cadsuane but decided she had the Dragon Reborn's best interests at heart, and therefore didn't poison her tea.

 

Which i said, but sorelia gave it to her for sleep

 

Love your PoV debate :)

 

What is strange about Laras is that she has to many talents that aren't related to each other. She can walk stealthy, cook very well, mask the taste of poison disappear under the taste of tea, build up effective plans. And use powder.

 

She also said that she had a dissolute life before. And Verin says she isn't a darkfriend or DO connected.

 

She could have been a thief or something like that and went to the Tower and found her place as Mistress of the Kitchens... But then, why so much mystery??

 

 

[FarShainMael]

Maybe she's a Kin 'eyes-and-ears'.

 

[Thorum]

Well, we haven't seen an female trollocs if I recall correctly. Who knows maybe that's what they are all like.

 

They are mentioned in the Big White Book: they stay in the Blight to make new Trollocs

[DocBean]

I always thought she had once been an Aes Sedai that was stilled, or burned out.

 

She didn't want to leave the Tower, so she returned and worked for it.

It had probably been a big part of her life, and she didn't want to leave it.

 

She's also the one in charge of shipping women off to the Kin.

Which is explained through her secret knowledge of hidden passageways.

 

We've seen a lot of people overlook Suin and Leane after they're stilled, so it's a pretty safe bet that Laras wouldn't be remembered by sisters.

Verin is one of the few who would notice, but keep it to herself. Especially if she's so sure that Laras isn't a darkfriend.

maybe they were pillow buddies at some point. {bow-chica-wow-wow}

 

Maybe she burned herself out, or flamed out while studying Ter'Angreal....

 

 

 

[Owayn The Traveller]

Well, we haven't seen an female trollocs if I recall correctly. Who knows maybe that's what they are all like.

 

They are mentioned in the Big White Book: they stay in the Blight to make new Trollocs

 

Well, maybe she's is one that got away.

 

Laras The Trolloc: I'm sick of cooking the same old stuff; I wanna use vegtables, spices and herbs. That's it, I'm off to see the whole wide world.

 

 

Connections to the Kin could be quite possible.

[FarShainMael]

A veggie trolloc. The bind moggles   :o

 

[Owayn The Traveller]

Hey in a world where we have vampires who don't drink human blood surely we can have vegetarian Trollocs. ;)

 

Trollocs are Omnivores by the by. So said Robert Jordan in some interview.