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    Hand of Onyx

    Like Terez, i don't like the body swap theory. However, I do find this scenerio to be interesting. If Morridin and Rand Swap, and both have a powerful sword, then we get a nice showdown. If Rand/Lanfear/Moggie take out Moridin who has Nyaneve/Alivia, then Alivia could then take out Rand. Which fits the viewing of her helping him die. If Moridin as Rand dies, this then fits the Dark Prophecy that Terez believes to be Rand. Weeping, sorrow, yadda yadda... however, it's actually a good thing for the forces of Light. I'm still hoping the Dark Prophecy death is Perrin's body in the wolf dream, and his wolf body lives on, but slim chance that i'm right with that one. Anyway, if Rand and Moridin die, then you get the resurrection with Nyaneve pulling Rand back into reality. Thank you Moggie for showing her that trick. Everyone is happy, because everyone's theory is then correct.
  2. I like this theory, I like it a lot actually. I've always assumed the blank in the blight is actually a city. We've even seen a hint at a city in Towers of Midnight, when Perrin comes across the spot of blight with a strange looking tent or something that had switched places with normal land. I think that's also how Trollocs were randomly popping up too. Just like the hallway switches we've seen, I think spots of land are switching. However, back to your theory. It would work, and would make since that Alivia will kill Rand if she thinks he's actually Morridin. I hate the body swap theory, but it does work on a lot of levels. Rand as Moridin could kill his old body, making everyone weep which fulfulls black prophecy, then Alivia could kill Rand, which will allow them to switch back in T'A'R.
  3. Honestly? Song of Ice and Fire is superior to Wheel of Time in just about every way, and this is coming from a huge Wheel of Time fan. This is what you get from SOIAF that WoT doesn't deliver: A fear for the characters you're reading about. Characters die, good and bad, and with very little resurrection unlike the Forsaken. Religion, Temples, and multiple Languages. Shades of Gray - characters aren't as black and white as Jordan's War between humans - There aren't Trollocs or Orcs running around, but there are some supernatural goings on. A rich history. Fire, Ice, Rape, Blood, Violence, Death, and Love - and it's actually believable. Subtle magic - it's there, but it's not ruining everything, people don't get chopped in the face without suffering, scarring, or dying. No magical healers. Political intrigue. Mystery and more...
  4. My biggest dislike of the series is that I'm never really scared for any of the characters. I love how detailed the world is, and how Jordan thought so much through decades ago, but the story is WAY too Black and White. It's like a 1950s Western movie, the guys in the White hats vs the guys in the Black hats, and you know the good guys will be just fine when it's over. We all knew Moraine wasn't dead. We never fear for any of the main characters. I read the books because I have for a long time, it was my first Fantasy series that I stuck with (Dragonlance before that, but I didn't finish the 2nd or 3rd book). If I picked the first one up today, and hadn't read them, I doubt I'd finish them.
  5. At this point who cares? He's been the most underwhelming Forsaken in the entire series, and they're almost all pathetic. Moridin is the only one that's been exciting to watch, and Lanfear had/has some potential to be impressive. The rest are too cardboard – bad guys that can't do anything right. Even Taim and Slayer have been more threatening then the big bad Forsaken, and Fain is above those two. I'd say Asmodean isn't cardboard, if I didn't hear that Jordan said he was still evil when he died. I would have liked to see Rand turn one of them back to the light by now, and Asmodean would have been a perfect example of that.
  6. THIS TIMES 100000000000000000000000! This is truly the only thing that I just do not like at all about the past 2 books, way too many instances where this happens. It's really annoying because a lot of the time what they are explaining is pretty obvious so it's just a wasted few lines. I first noticed it when I was reading the Mistborn series, and had just finished reading all the Song of Ice and Fire books – It was a huge departure from Martin, so it bugged me right off the bat. When I read Gathering Storm I was really annoyed that Brandon did the same thing throughout the book, because Jordan never did that either. However, when I read the prologue to Gathering Storm I was immediately reminded that Jordan's series was just better then Sanderson's Mistborn, even though Sanderson was writing it, so I do think he's done a good job. I remember clearly when i read the prologue that I felt like I was putting on a pair of well worn in shoes that had been lost in a closet somewhere. They still felt like I remembered; but every now and then a pebble would dig in, to remind me they weren't exactly the same as I remembered. The over explanation he does, and the lack of humor, are really my only criticisms with any of his work. If I ever reread these latest two books I'll probably highlight one of the unnecessary lines and post it, so people understand what I'm talking about.
  7. I agree with most, Mat isn't the same in Gathering Storm or ToM; however, by the time I read ToM, it didn't bother me nearly as much as it had before. However, I remember reading the Gathering Storm and I actually preferred Sanderson's Aviendha. She seems more like the old Aviendha, a little more "savage." I actually didn't like her character much because she seems the same as any other wetlander. Which make the Aeil nothing special. I think Sanderson did a pretty good job of making her a little more Aeil and a little less Randlander; Jordan started writing her the same way as all the other women in the series. The biggest problem I have with Sanderson's writing is the fact that he always has the characters explain everything in their heads. Jordan was much better at giving the readers some credit for figuring out why a character did something they did. All the Sanderson books I've read so far are the same. The characters always spell everything out clearly; he never leaves the reader in the dark on anything. It really bothers me during his combat scenes where a character has a long inner dialog going on while fighting, it seems very unnatural.
  8. I agree we won't see the speech. Remember the Ogier write, and speak, and build things, better then any Human, so I don't think Sanderson should try to pull it off. Even with Loial's "Simply Put" style of speaking, it should be quite eloquent. I think we've already seen proof that not only does he convince them to join the humans, we know he'll survive the Last Battle and write his book about Rand.
  9. I always interpreted it as his understanding of the Wheel. He's not threatened by a circle anymore because he knows the Wheel will watch out for him, and let him do what needs to be done. It's like he is so connected he can almost predict the future. It seemed clear to me when he was willing to travel to meet with the Borderlanders that he doesn't feel threatened by mortals anymore. Then again, maybe it's because he knows he can grasp the True Source, in each of those situations we don't know that a shield would stop him from doing that.
  10. I disagree completely about WOT having a lot of character development. I'd actually say most characters have developed very little, they are all either black or white, good guys or bad guys and never change course. Each one serves a specific purpose. After reading the first book, you can say this about each character: Moiraine - Teacher, Yoda type. Lan - Super swordsman who put his Honor above all else, and will always sacrifice himself for the greater good. Rand - Sheepherder/nobody/orphan boy with ambiguous past, turned savior of mankind. Mat - Rogue gambler, comedic character, who looks out for number 1, but somehow always saves everyone else. Perrin - Blacksmith-muscle-man who can communicate with wild animals, but is really quite gentle and caring. Nyaneve is the typical "Medic/super strong magician" character. "Oh no, this character is going to die! Wait, here comes Nyaneve, she'll save him!" After reading the last book, they're all still the same characters they started out like, I wouldn't say Nyaneve is any more or less likable then the rest. They're all quite bland individually, but make a nice dish when mixed together.
  11. Sanderson isn't as good at writing funny characters, and being forced to write a character you didn't create is probably pretty hard to do. I'm currently reading "Way of Kings" and Sanderson goes out of his way to make some characters funny - Wit for example, but it just comes off as really forced, and not funny at all. I'm guessing Sanderson wasn't a class-clown type and just isn't really that funny; and there's nothing wrong with that. The Mistborn series was the same way, none of the characters were funny. I think Sanderson is more clever then he is funny, when it comes to his writing style. I think he's got a creative imagination, and is a good writer, but he's not witty.
  12. I think voting for a favorite author on a Wheel of Time Community Forum is pointless. With that said, I'll say what I've said before about Martin and Jordan: They're different. Some people like the struggles of good vs evil, a clear cut right vs wrong - Jordan. Some people like their world a little more gray, and political - Martin. I think the backstory of Marin's world, and his inclusion of Religion, and foreign language makes his world much more believable, but this is fantasy we're talking about. If you like prophecy, magic, and monsters, you'll prefer Jordan. If you like Middle Earth - Jordan. If you like Middle Earth mixed with the Sopranos - Martin. They are just different. Get over it.
  13. Could we also discuss the merits of Stephenie Meyer and where she stands when compared to these other writers? Because in my opinion she's right up there. Wow, there is a sarcasm font.
  14. ...and there you have it folks. I think we've figured out the real problem with Lan's storyline. Jordan created a world where the characters KNEW they were going to live again. He's even said that's why there is no organized religion in his world, because everyone knows there is a Creator and Dark One. so in Lan's case, he's saying "Crap, I got the short straw. Well, I better end this so I can start again." I thought Lan's storyline would basically echo the 300 Spartans holding off the Persian Empire. Especially since Jordan wants all his storylines to be similar to stories from our world. After all it's one wheel, the same painting over and over again. Instead he decided to have Lan do some foolish charge. What the hell man?! Maybe he's supposed to be General Custer.
  15. Tolkein basically wrote the instruction books on Dwarves and Elves and Orcs and "High-Fantasy," that alone puts him on top of the mountain. Personally I don't care much for his books now, but historically they were needed, for authors these days to do what they do.
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