Mass Effect 2

[Zashara]

I know this game is coming out Jan 26th. I saw the ad for it and it looked pretty sweet. I'm probably going to steal Mass Effect from a friend to play it before I get 2.

 

What are your guyses thought on this game? Let me know if I'm choosing a good game to get back into gaming with.

[WWWwombat]

Mass Effect is terrific.  I am psyched as hell for Mass Effect 2.

[Silver]

I am gonna wake up early to pick it up tomorrow. I'm hoping there'll be some Collector Editions available for walk in but I don't have my hopes too high.

[Krakalakachkn]

Mass Effect is terrific.  I am psyched as hell for Mass Effect 2.

 

Amen

[Emperor]

Mass Effect was really good.  This is what I want when I buy a game with MP.  However exploring planets got REALLY old.  I will probably pick up the sequel.

[Haxorsist]

I'm gonna OWN this game. Figuratively and literally.

[SinisterDeath]

I wasn't impressed by Mass Effect. Most of the people who are new to video games, or the bioware RPG genre are easilly impressed by it. But really though I've played mass effect before. It was called Neverwinter Nights, and after that, Knights of the Old Republic, and after that, Jade Empire.

 

So really, to me, Mass Effect 1, and Dragon Age: Origins are simply all the same game, with a Cosmetic Surgery.

I'll be 'getting' Mass Effect 2, but I don't know if its actually going to be great, or if its just more of the same fluff.

ON a related note, What biowares always seemed to do well, was with there expansions. (OR DLC these days) In that, The first or second NWN expansion, was actually BETTER (story wise) than the Original! Betting DAO's 'DLC' thats probably closer to expansion is better than DAO vanilla.

 

And Ifwe think of Mass Effect 2 as simply an Expansion, It 'might' be better than the orginal in every possible way.

[Silver]

just picked up the Collectors Edition from futureshop. I wanna go home and play!

[Haxorsist]

I haven't played Neverwinter Nights, but I did play KotOR, and I don't see how Mass Effect is somehow the same game. I found them to be very different both story-wise and gameplay-wise.

[Emperor]

Geeze, I would hate to ever sleep with Sinister.  I would never please him.

[SinisterDeath]

I haven't played Neverwinter Nights, but I did play KotOR, and I don't see how Mass Effect is somehow the same game. I found them to be very different both story-wise and gameplay-wise.

 

story wise your swapping terms.

Look at DAO vs Mass Effect.

Practically the same story, just different terms.

Gameplay maybe different, but thats like saying the gameplay between Madden 05 vs 10, Does it matter?

 

+Kotor has the whole IP/Starwars thing which makes the story very.. obviously starwars.

 

If you can see how DAO is alot like every other bioware RPG, and its just a 'bioware game' in a new skin, and you can see how its alot like Mass Effect; simple fact is, DAO is a clone of NWN. Different 'universe', different names, slightly different gameplay, different plot, but overal they all share the same story arcs.

 

DAO your approached by a guy, he wants you to join him, he dies. You take over, and your companions help you stop a greater evil. Gotta gather up an 'army' to defeat it at 'final battle'.

Mass Effects got a guy who basically gets you to join as a Spectre, he dies, you take over hte mission, and hunt the guy who killed him. (sound familiar to DAO?)

Go about, getting more companions throughout the game, and revenge his death and send those dirty alien monsters back to deadspace. :P

 

All I'm saying is, if Mass Effect 2 is going to impress me, they are going to have to radically alter there 'predictable bioware story arcs', as i've played them all. Any 'twists' I see a mile away.

 

Hopefully the gameplay changes will make the game better. (the old RPG/Shooter mix they used was just annoying... should have your crosshairs on a creature, shoot and still miss. ;)

Perhaps there 'Karma' system won't be as black and white as there other games. And as sad as it is, NwN2 has better 'moral' choices than DAO.

Well at least we get to sleep with the entire crew in ME2. ;)

[Silver]

Mass Effects got a guy who basically gets you to join as a Spectre, he dies, you take over hte mission, and hunt the guy who killed him. (sound familiar to DAO?)

Go about, getting more companions throughout the game, and revenge his death and send those dirty alien monsters back to deadspace.

 

I'm guessing you've never played Mass Effect.

[SinisterDeath]

Mass Effects got a guy who basically gets you to join as a Spectre, he dies, you take over hte mission, and hunt the guy who killed him. (sound familiar to DAO?)

Go about, getting more companions throughout the game, and revenge his death and send those dirty alien monsters back to deadspace.

 

I'm guessing you've never played Mass Effect.

 

Yea I have silver.

John Sheppard was selected by the council to assist the Spectre Nihlus. Sheppard was sent on the mission, since the Human Embasy & the council were looking to improve relations by making a Human a Spectre, assuming he lived up to the requirements.

 

You go to the planet to find out why an archeology colony stopped communicating, and Nihlus real job was to secure the Beacon that was found there.

He gets shot in the back by a rogue Spectre named Seran.

 

Things happen, find a scientist that knows about the beacon, blow up stuff, hunt down Seran. Along the way you get several different Companions.

At the end, you kill Seran who was being used by the evil AI ships, basically possessed by them. And you end up destroying the 'gate' that would have sent these Evil Alien AI ship things that would 'raze the galaxy'.

 

The difference between this and DAO is that instead of gathering armies your gathering companions and inteligence on where to 'find' Saren.

DAO, your hunting the guy who killed Duncan, but you know where he's at. You just need an army to get to him.

 

In both cases, the 'real' enemey wasn't the guy who killed Nihlus/Duncan, but the 'evil aliens' and 'darkspawn'. they even elude that whats his face that killed Duncan may have been 'used' by the darkspawn, kinda like how those 'AI' used Nihlus. But its obvious that in making it they said 'OH SHIT! we did that already!' and stopped duncan from being possessed. ;)

[Silver]

Actually Shepard was chosen by humanity as a potential Spectre. And Nihilus was just and interviewer, seeing if Shepard had what it takes. His death was inconsequential. He was basically a red shirt.

 

Also, they went to Eden Prime to pick up the beacon. It just so happened Seran was there at the same time. And the reason you hunt Seran was to clear your own name and revenge, or because it's the right thing if you want to be noble about it.

[SinisterDeath]

Actually Shepard was chosen by humanity as a potential Spectre. And Nihilus was just and interviewer, seeing if Shepard had what it takes. His death was inconsequential. He was basically a red shirt.

 

Also, they went to Eden Prime to pick up the beacon. It just so happened Seran was there at the same time. And the reason you hunt Seran was to clear your own name and revenge, or because it's the right thing if you want to be noble about it.

 

Details Details.

I played the game a year ago, you just beat it for the first time. ;)

But really, the nihlus thing is exactly the same as Duncan in DAO.

Which could easilly be relatable to your 'master' in nwn1, ect.

[Silver]

I didn't beat it for the first time recently, I beat it for the 3rd time recently. :p

[WWWwombat]

As far as I'm concerned any criticism of BioWare is blasphemy.

[SinisterDeath]

As far as I'm concerned any criticism of BioWare is blasphemy.

 

I'm simply stating they are going to have to do a LOT to make Mass Effect Better than there status quou games.

They are far better than half the drivel that releases yearly, but they all follow the same 'mold' the same 'pattern', its just the materials are different.

 

They also need to work on there 'karma' system. The options are far to 'black and white' in all there games, even DAO. And I still say, that there earlier games had far 'grayer' moral/karma decisions in the game...

 

Also, they gotta make psi-tech or whatever its called in ME2 not suck. ;)

[WWWwombat]

Psi-tech?  I don't know what you mean by that but both biotics and tech abilities were very useful.

[Silver]

Agreed. I never used em myself but my companions had maxed skills and were very useful.

[SinisterDeath]

Psi-tech?  I don't know what you mean by that but both biotics and tech abilities were very useful.

 

aww, biotics, I knew it was something with an I in it. :P

They are useful, but the biotics just didn't seem as 'powerful' as a player as they should be...

Best way to put it is the Dungeons and Dragons issue.

 

You shouldn't be able to survive a fireball to the face. Let alone a meteor. Nor Dodge it. :P

Enemies are either all to resistant to them (even though they don't have biotic powers) or if they do get hit it doesn't have the full impact.

 

I hear that ME2 has better controls in that, you shoot a gun, it hits what you aim at instead of using a dice roll to figure it out like it did before.

I'm hoping the tech & biotic powers are similar..

 

When I played the orignal, I ussually ended up going into every scenerio with total balanced in weapons/biotics/tech..

Just seems that the companions with biotics are better than a PC with them... Mostly cause they can't shoot worth a crap. ;)

[Haxorsist]

Singularity was the shiznit! No enemy could stop my black holeish biotic power. Oh and, fun story. When I killed Saren I got to level 59... one level away from 60 and that damn achievement! I almost threw my controller at the TV.

[Ashaman DeRouge]

I remember getting my dude to sleep with that chick, RIGHT when the Mrs walks in.

 

Explain that one.

 

 

Also, she bought it for me as a birthday gift. She thought she bought me some crazy space porno game for a little while there.

 

Anyway, I like FIFA, but the story stays pretty similar each game... just throwin that out there.

 

If the game is FUN to play, the story is just a trimming. Look at Pong. That didn't need a story back in the day. I get we expect more these days, but as it stands, I am enjoying playing in the ME 'Universe', I enjoy the "hunt down bad guy vie scenic route", and if the gameplay is cool, then hey 9/10.

 

Perhaps Sinister you just ain't a fan of that archetypal story? or played it death, I can get that. Personally, I havn't played it to death. But arn't approx 90% of games these days hunt down bad guy games anyway?

[Krakalakachkn]

Singularity was the shiznit! No enemy could stop my black holeish biotic power. Oh and, fun story. When I killed Saren I got to level 59... one level away from 60 and that damn achievement! I almost threw my controller at the TV.

 

You know you can start a new game with your level 59 character, so you should be able to get to level 60 in a relatively short time if you're willing to start over

[Haxorsist]

That was on my second play through. Yeah, guess I should have said, makes me look less bad ass. But I don't feel like starting another game.