Your favourite ajah?

[Cadinsorcladfigures]

Just wondering what people's views were on the 7 ajahs. Personally for me I think the white ajah because I always love the scenes where someone is screaming at Aes Sedai and then they just say "are you quite finished" and the white ajah are said to be the calmest of the lot

[water_seeker]

Brown...Books...Knowledge

[Builder]

I like the Black Ajah the most. They seem to blend in but no one even knows they are there!

 

Otherwise it would be Blue.

[Luckers]

The White--both because thats who I'd be and they are the only Ajah who hasn't failed in their purpose. I mean, it not hard to think, eh.

 

Whereas when was the last time you saw a Yellow healing, or a Green fighting Trollocs, or a Brown discovering something, or a Grey doing anything. You know, except by happentstance, in the course of their own interests.

 

I leave out the Blue's who's mission is almost as ephemeral as the Whites, and the Reds who do seem to be doing their job, but are horrible human beings.

[Majsju]

Whereas when was the last time you saw a Yellow healing, or a Green fighting Trollocs, or a Brown discovering something, or a Grey doing anything. You know, except by happentstance, in the course of their own interests.

 

 

 

Uhm, Verin?

[Hallow]

The green, theyre the only Ajah who still keeps the purpose that they all should have, to be soldiers against the shadow. The (non dark) Asha'man got their purpose better than the general Aes Sedai poulation tbh.

[Luckers]

Whereas when was the last time you saw a Yellow healing, or a Green fighting Trollocs, or a Brown discovering something, or a Grey doing anything. You know, except by happentstance, in the course of their own interests.

 

 

 

Uhm, Verin?

 

I was actually speaking to them discovering something useful to society--you know, things like electricity. The steam engine. The Theory of Relativity--but ok. What does Verin discover?

 

The green, theyre the only Ajah who still keeps the purpose that they all should have, to be soldiers against the shadow. The (non dark) Asha'man got their purpose better than the general Aes Sedai poulation tbh.

 

Have they? They preach it, but why arn't they all up manning posts in the Borderlands? Why weren't they there when Malkier fell?

 

The Battle Ajah? Please. They are as self-centered as all the others.

[RobertAlexWillis]

Whereas when was the last time you saw a Yellow healing, or a Green fighting Trollocs, or a Brown discovering something, or a Grey doing anything. You know, except by happentstance, in the course of their own interests.

 

Alanna's a Green, and she fought Trollocs in the Two Rivers.  She could have just left.

 

The Yellows in Salidar do plenty of Healing ... and Nynaeve's a Yellow now, we see her Healing all the time.

 

Merana is a Gray, and she seems to be negotiating in good faith on Rand's behalf.

 

And of course, Moiraine both has demonstrated and is demonstrating ultimate dedication to her cause.

 

And how do you know the White's aren't just philosophizing in the course of their own interests?   ;)  Like when they're all trying to figure out why and how fast the food in the Tower is going bad?

 

I'm generally as happy to take shots at Aes Sedai as anyone, but they're not total, utter, and irredeemable failures at everything.  Just pretty close sometimes ... lol

[Arani Lepenque Aes Sedai]

1st. Brown - I love to learn, especially about the One Power (I have several theories about weaves and talents

 

2nd. Yellow - I like Healing.

 

3rd. Green - I like their purpose.  They also are the most carefree of the lot

 

4th. Blue

 

5th. Gray

 

6th. White

 

7th. Red - For known reasons

[Hallow]

Whereas when was the last time you saw a Yellow healing, or a Green fighting Trollocs, or a Brown discovering something, or a Grey doing anything. You know, except by happentstance, in the course of their own interests.

 

 

 

Uhm, Verin?

 

I was actually speaking to them discovering something useful to society--you know, things like electricity. The steam engine. The Theory of Relativity--but ok. What does Verin discover?

 

The green, theyre the only Ajah who still keeps the purpose that they all should have, to be soldiers against the shadow. The (non dark) Asha'man got their purpose better than the general Aes Sedai poulation tbh.

 

Have they? They preach it, but why arn't they all up manning posts in the Borderlands? Why weren't they there when Malkier fell?

 

The Battle Ajah? Please. They are as self-centered as all the others.

 

I never thought I'd be the one correcting you but.. Aes Sedai were on their way when they heard Malkier was in trouble, they just didnt get there in time. Aes Sedai are human too, and failing is human.

[Luckers]

Alanna's a Green, and she fought Trollocs in the Two Rivers.  She could have just left.

 

Which would be, you know--happenstance. She didn't go to the Two Rivers to fight Trollocs, she just didn't walk away when they were there.

 

The Yellows in Salidar do plenty of Healing ... and Nynaeve's a Yellow now, we see her Healing all the time.

 

But they weren't in Salidar to do healing, it just happened that injuries occurred, and they were nearby.

 

Merana is a Gray, and she seems to be negotiating in good faith on Rand's behalf.

 

Following an oath. Prior to that she was more concerned with putting the Aes Sedai agenda forward--and thus hamstringing her efforts with Rand. Where is the last great success of the Grey? The formation of the Ten Nations?

 

And of course, Moiraine both has demonstrated and is demonstrating ultimate dedication to her cause.

 

I did put the Blue in a seperate collumn. Yes, Moiraine does great deeds--what about Anaiya? Their causes are simply that--causes. Its impossible to judge something so ephemeral when speaking of the scope of the entire Ajah. As far as we know only Moiraine and Siuan of the Blue's HAVE done anything useful.

 

And how do you know the White's aren't just philosophizing in the course of their own interests?     Like when they're all trying to figure out why and how fast the food in the Tower is going bad?

 

When did I say they weren't? I expect that they are indeed doing just that. Unlike the other Ajahs though they aren't ignoring their mandate. They exist to think.

 

Don't think i was praising them. That they can't be said to be failing to fulfil their mandate doesn't make them any less self-centred.

 

I'm generally as happy to take shots at Aes Sedai as anyone, but they're not total, utter, and irredeemable failures at everything.  Just pretty close sometimes ... lol

 

I didn't say that, you know.

 

I never thought I'd be the one correcting you but.. Aes Sedai were on their way when they heard Malkier was in trouble, they just didnt get there in time. Aes Sedai are human too, and failing is human.

 

You're not correcting me.

 

As for your comment about them being human, and not getting there in time--if they maintained outposts in the borderlands sustaining the fight (as opposed to simply coming when things were the direst) they would have been there, not been on their way.

 

They call themselves the Battle Ajah--not the Do-What-I-Want-Until-All-Hope-Is-Lost-And-Then-I'll-Actually-Fight Ajah.

 

Because you know what happens when your that Ajah? You don't get there in time.

 

 

[rhadamanthus]

Favorite as in "coolest"?  Green.  They are intended to go out and kick some shadowspawn ass.  The image of Kiruna charging through the crowd at Dumai's Well's, throwing fireballs and lightning behind a circle of warders is, truly, awesome.  (yeah, yeah, Luckers - I noted your comments, thus the "intended" word choice)

 

Favorite as in "intending to do good things and actually doing them"?  Blue.

 

Sure, they're as self serving as any other Ajah, but they have noble intentions, and generally appear to act on them.  I forget where, but it is mentioned that most Blues are usually not at the tower, because they are out and about working towards justice or another light-associated cause.  To a certain extent, the blue are the Aes Sedai that come the closest to the old "servants of all".  Yes, it's contorted and often not true, but they have good intentions, and most try to act on them.

[Kadere]

Blue, Green, Black, White, Brown, Red, Grey, Yellow.

 

Something like that.

[Hallow]

They call themselves the Battle Ajah--not the Do-What-I-Want-Until-All-Hope-Is-Lost-And-Then-I'll-Actually-Fight Ajah.

 

Because you know what happens when your that Ajah? You don't get there in time.

 

This made me laugh really hard  ;D

 

Anyway, I'm not going to argue or defend my choice, of all the Aes Sedai I feel that the green has the only useful purpose, sure this may have deteriorated through the years but in the begining I believe they were what they now say they are. And thats what all Aes Sedai should be focused on doing.

[Nightstrike]

My favourite Ajah... That would probably depend on the definition of "favourite". If my favourite would be what Ajah's members I admire the most in the books, then I would think Green and Blue are my favorites. If my favorite would be what Ajah I would have chosen myself (I'm male, so I don't know if that would have been an option), then maybe it would make a difference. Had I been a weak channeler, then I would probably have chosen Brown, White or Yellow (Yellow if I had that particular Talent). Had I been a stronger than average channeler, then I would probably have chosen Blue.

 

[Luckers]

Sure, they're as self serving as any other Ajah, but they have noble intentions, and generally appear to act on them.  I forget where, but it is mentioned that most Blues are usually not at the tower, because they are out and about working towards justice or another light-associated cause.  To a certain extent, the blue are the Aes Sedai that come the closest to the old "servants of all".  Yes, it's contorted and often not true, but they have good intentions, and most try to act on them.

 

You know the funny thing is, i reckon in the modern world Blue's would be hippies.

 

Quote from: Luckers on Today at 06:30:22 AM

They call themselves the Battle Ajah--not the Do-What-I-Want-Until-All-Hope-Is-Lost-And-Then-I'll-Actually-Fight Ajah.

 

Because you know what happens when your that Ajah? You don't get there in time.

 

 

This made me laugh really hard  

 

I was pretty proud of it, lol.

 

Anyway, I'm not going to argue or defend my choice, of all the Aes Sedai I feel that the green has the only useful purpose, sure this may have deteriorated through the years but in the begining I believe they were what they now say they are. And thats what all Aes Sedai should be focused on doing.

 

Don't get me wrong, i agree with you--the Green's goal is noble--just like the Red's was. But both have fallen by the wayside.

 

My original comment was only that the Whites are the only ones that havn't failed in their mission--which isn't really a compliment, given its not that hard to 'think'. Whether they are thinking deeply or not, we don't know.

 

Had I been a weak channeler, then I would probably have chosen Brown, White or Yellow (Yellow if I had that particular Talent). Had I been a stronger than average channeler, then I would probably have chosen Blue.

 

That kind of disturbs me...

[RobertAlexWillis]

Which would be, you know--happenstance. She didn't go to the Two Rivers to fight Trollocs, she just didn't walk away when they were there.

 

Well, what are they supposed to do, invade the Blight?

 

They fight Trollocs where they find them ... I suppose you can call that happenstance, but ...

 

But they weren't in Salidar to do healing, it just happened that injuries occurred, and they were nearby.

 

Again ... they can only Heal where they are.  Although I do know that you think they should be out setting up hospitals ... and I pretty much agree, so I'll give you this one.

 

Following an oath. Prior to that she was more concerned with putting the Aes Sedai agenda forward--and thus hamstringing her efforts with Rand. Where is the last great success of the Grey? The formation of the Ten Nations?

 

I guess that depends on how you define "great success".  Merana does cite treaties she's negotiated.

 

And how does her Oath de-legitimize her actions?  Her Oath determines her loyalty, yes, but given her loyalty, she's performing her function.

 

If your point is that the Ajahs have failed to act in a large-scale well-organized fashion to fulfill their causes, then I fully agree.  But there are individual Sisters who do what they can within that framework of overall incompetence, and your assertion seemed to be that there were no individual Sisters in the Green, Brown, Yellow, or Gray Ajahs who were doing anything along the lines of their Ajah's purpose. That seems like its going a bit far.

 

When did I say they weren't? I expect that they are indeed doing just that. Unlike the other Ajahs though they are ignoring their mandate.

 

You dismissed Alanna's fighting because is was just the result of "happenstance".  How is the White Ajah's food speculation any different?  They just sat in the Tower until an opportunity to apply their "logic" appeared.

[vainebekonnes]

As far as favorite is concerned, I'm not sure I have one.  I could see myself choosing Blue, Green, White, Gray, or Brown depending on how I felt after actually going through the training.  I love the White Ajah in theory, but they haven't made a particularly good showing in the books so far.  Blue and Green have great pro-active purposes, though we've obviously seen Blue going about theirs more than Green has in the books.  I think for many of us book worms Brown seems like a great ajah, one that doesn't seem to be that great of a stretch to imagine and see the allure of.  I'm very interested in politics and negotiations so Gray seems like a worthwhile choice that could do a lot of good.  Really my only complaint about Red is how they go about doing what they do.  If I were to embark on a mission as dangerous as hunting down and gentling male channelers, I would want a warder or five watching my back.  It seems almost as if it would be easier to do the job as a Green.  Really, Yellow is the only one I don't get the allure of, though I am and would be glad that they are around, it's just not for me and seems rather boring.  Then again, as a male, it doesn't really matter which one I would choose, because even if I was in that world, I wouldn't be allowed to join the White Tower and would be hunted down if I could channel.

[Nightstrike]

Had I been a weak channeler, then I would probably have chosen Brown, White or Yellow (Yellow if I had that particular Talent). Had I been a stronger than average channeler, then I would probably have chosen Blue.

 

That kind of disturbs me...

Why?

[Luckers]

I'm not really sure--maybe just the idea that the thoughtful or helpful ajahs would be weaker--which is funny with Nynaeve as a Yellow and Meilyn as a White.

 

Ignore me.

[Hallow]

I'm not really sure--maybe just the idea that the thoughtful or helpful ajahs would be weaker--which is funny with Nynaeve as a Yellow and Meilyn as a White.

 

Ignore me.

 

However, using the same hierarchy in these ajahs (The im stronger therefore cooler than you thing) is ridicolous. If you are a white, brown, yellow or gray the skill in the dedicated area should determine the hierarchy, say a yellow with a bigger talent in healing would be above a stronger yellow who wass worse at healing etc. However with the red, blue and green its harder and strength seems to be more relevant in their line of work.

[Luckers]

Oh yeah, don't get me started on the stupidity of the strength hierarchy--like schoolboy bullies.

 

[Eleint]

Favorite as in 'I like the idea of being one/find it cool': Brown, Blue, Green.  Browns are knowledge-seekers, which is cool, Blues help people with their causes, and Greens take the fight to the Dark One, which is really cool.

 

Favorite as in 'I find the characters fascinating': Brown (Verin), Red (Pevara and Tarna).

 

Verin's obvious, she's interesting and we're not sure what she's up to exactly.

 

I never liked Reds till the latter books, they were all cliches.  Then we got to see Pevara and Tarna, and they were interesting.  They showed us a side of the Reds we never got to see before, illustrating they aren't all evil, even if many do dislike men.  Of course, we could assume this, but it's always better showing it.  Their characterization went way up.

[Lord Nik]

Three things keeping me from putting my heart into an ajah.

 

First

I'm a guy

 

Second

I cant Channel

 

Third

I dont have a white tower to go to.

 

With that aside I would be Brown hands down. That would be so much fun. I would explore the world going to all those lost cities. Like when Domon was going on about those ancient things he was seeing I just wanted to go see them all!

Just exploring and exploring and finding out about all these forgotten places would be a dream come true for me.

 

Adventuring around like that would be great. Did something like that in real life already but I couldnt channel so it wasn't as fun :P

 

[Elgee]

Indiana Cauthon and the Tower of Doom ?