What Have You Noticed on the Nth Read Through?

[Mr. Micawber]

Oosquai is made from a cactus/algave type thing called zemai

 

Algode is almost certainly cotton, since we've seen wools, furs, linens, and silks, but not cotton, and I can't think of any other RL stuff that resembles it.

[dwn]

Oosquai is made from a cactus/algave type thing called zemai

 

Algode is almost certainly cotton, since we've seen wools, furs, linens, and silks, but not cotton, and I can't think of any other RL stuff that resembles it.

 

The words, they trip me up. I see 'zemai' and equate it with 'maize'.  'Maize' becomes 'corn',  and 'corn' is often a generic term for grain. Hence 'oosquai' is made from grain.

 

-- dwn

 

[Mr. Micawber]

Shoot, dwn, I take all this back.

 

You're absolutely right.

 

Zemai = maize.

 

Oosquai, then, is a corn (American usage) based drink. That means it's like Bourbon Whiskey.

[ROB_88]

do corn even grow in the Aiel Waste?

[Nightstrike]

The trick is to find water and shade. That's what the Dreamers are good at. It is also the reason why there are so many (relatively speaking) Dreamers among the Aiel.

 

 

[Luckers]

Indidly. I remember RJ's comment on that too.

[Mr Ares]

Algode is almost certainly cotton, since we've seen wools, furs, linens, and silks, but not cotton, and I can't think of any other RL stuff that resembles it.

It's also been noted that the Spanish and Portuguese words for cotton are similar to algode.

[Beren]

I don't know if this has any significance, but I noticed the following in my re-read...

 

The Seafolk have the Jendai Prophecies.

 

The original Aiel were the Jenn Da'Shain Aiel.

 

When Rand went through the columns in Rhuidean, one of his ancestors said to take the people south toward what was now a sea...

 

Are the Seafolk an offshoot of the Jenn Aiel? They already seem to know about the Bowl of the Winds which is a very powerful Ter'Angreal. Perhaps they have some of the things that the ancient Aes Sedai told the Jenn Aiel to keep safe? Just an interesting theory. Not too many supporting facts, but there are word similarities and they do seem to know an awful lot about a powerful Ter'Angreal.

 

I have also wondered about the seal that the Seafolk use. Two flattened bowls with a line between. We have the Bowl of the Winds. What is the other?

 

 

 

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On a separate note, I had an interesting thought about Nicola's Foretelling. The sentence about Rand and three women in a boat is separate from the sentence about "the lion sword, the dedicated spear, she who sees beyond and he who is dead yet lives." I have a theory that these are not necessarily the same thing. I would say that the boat and Rand is pretty obvious, but as for the second sentence. I wonder if they are the following people. The Lion Sword could be Gawyn who would be First Sword of Andor (I think that is the title). The dedicated spear could be Matt. He does have a spear type weapon and he is dedicated to helping Rand. That is the biggest stretch of the three. She who sees beyond, I am almost certain is Egwene. He who is dead yet lives, I have a sneaking suspicion is Luc. Recall the quote about "one died, but both are." Perhaps these four individuals are key to the forces of the Light winning Tarmon Gaidon?

[Mr Ares]

The original Aiel were the Jenn Da'Shain Aiel.

I don't recall the Jenn ever being referred to as Da'shain. This is because they never are. Just Jenn or Jenn Aiel.

[Beren]

Got this from the WoT Encyclopedia:

 

da'shain aiel = true peace dedicated

 

    "Da'shain" might mean "true peace" or something greater than piece if "da" is a superlative to "shain"'s "peace." "Aiel" means dedicated. Also see note 1 above for interpretation of da'shain.

 

 

 

The reference is from Rand in Rhuidean when he sees from the viewpoint of Lewin. Here is what then WoT Encyclopedia says (bold emphasis mine):

 

When they hear what the boys did, Adan tells them that they are no longer Da'shain.4 They are strangers and are not welcome at the wagons of the Aiel. Lewin shouts, "I am still Aiel!

[benr]

Well, I learned that there can be editing errors that I didn't catch until my third read through of KoD.  In the prologue, when Egwene has just returned to the Tower, she is escorted by Katerine and Barasine.  They encounter a Sister; "Egwene did not think that she had ever seen the woman before, but apparantly, the reverse was not true."  After some back and forth about the events at the harbor, and discussion about the "wilder" that was Leane, they split up.  Nowhere is the sister's name mentioned (Melare), yet as Egwene is walking away she thinks that "Melare had given her too much to think on."  Maybe she is a mind reader; but I figure a line that included Melare's name got edited out at some point.  How trivial can I get?   

 

All done with the read through; ready for the next book.

[Lobododragao]

one of the big things I noticed this read through, durring rands walk in rhudian (sp) through the glass columns. when we see the gathering with the dragon banner and the horn, one of the aiel (the one rand is seeing through the eyes of) speaks to one of the aes sedai, saying something along the lines of they will keep the angreal and other things the aes sedai gave them safe. In the word play when the aes sedai speaks, it was obvious to me that the aes sedai weren't trying to keep the angreal and stuff safe, they were trying to keep the aiel safe. they didn't give a hoot about the junk the aiel were taking. That was a powerful moment :)