White Tower Mafia - Game Over

[Naeann]

At the risk of angering the mighty mod Dae... you should read up on your mafia game roles a bit more.  That's all I will say on that matter.

 

IF you lynch Hybrid and he is mafia.. I will gladly help you lynch me next.  I'll even lay down the first vote.. or the last.. whichever you prefer.  I still wont help you lynch him.  I am, however, [glow=red,2,300]Unvoting[/glow] Verbal as promised.

[Samuraiflip05]

And looking around I realize I am woefully inexperienced at all the espionage and intrigue involved...lol. 

 

Well I have noone to change my vote to at this point and time....and I probably won't be back before the deadline.  *Shrug*

[Myndrunner]

At the risk of angering the mighty mod Dae... you should read up on your mafia game roles a bit more.  That's all I will say on that matter.

 

I'm sorry, but all riddles and innuendo aside......what do you mean, exactly? I'm sure whatever you have to say you can say it in a way that doesn't anger the mighty mod Dae.  I am just confused as to what you are meaning here. 

 

Sam, you can change your vote to [glow=red,2,300]Hybrid[/glow]. As it stands, he has the majority of them now.....just a thought since we need 8 votes to clinch. Of course, at this point all this fussing is going to get exactly what I was trying to avoid.....a random lynch. 

[MsDanya]

Nah, you're trying too hard Mynd, sorry, but you really do. I dont care about your reveal, anyone can reveal as anything on day one, so I sure hope no one took that one for real serious. But pushing this lynch seems strange, as I for one do not see anything suspicious in Hybrids unvoting at all. He voted randomly, saw a possible bandwagon pile up, didnt want that, unvoted. He can be Mafia, or he's not, just like You, Mynd, and all the rest of us can be Mafia or not. unvoting on a day ONE lynch tells us nothing at all. But thats just my opinion.

 

I would write more but I have to go to work. Ta!

[Naeann]

Rafo?  There are other roles that know other peoples alignment.. even on day one.

[Jaydena]

*runs in* Sorry busy day, couldn't get on until now. I am not sure if I should change my vote or not, I am not convinced on who it is. I do have some gut feelings but as someone said, those aren't always right. I do agree with Nae though, I don't think we should lynch off active peeps, then no one posts and it gets boring.

[Verbal32]

I'm not trying to metagame here, but it doesn't seem right that a mafia Mynd would be pushing so hard to lynch a single innocent on Day 1.  If Hybrid is innocent, and Mynd is mafia, a 1-for-1 trade is great for the innocents, and crappy for the mafia.  It just doesn't make sense.  I don't see him pushing so hard if he was mafia.

 

Please don't think I'm defending him, either.  Mynd, you know that pointing fingers in too many directions can end up doing as much harm to the innocents as it can to the mafia.  I know that isn't your intent (at least I assume it isn't), but sometimes it works like that.

 

On the topic of lynching today, I'm not really looking forward to a random lynch.  Why?  Because while it could nab a mafia player, it could also nab a Healer or Finder.  I'd honestly rather a roleless innocent die on Day 1 than the Finder.  A random lynch is just too dangerous, and for that reason I understand why Mynd is pushing to lynch SOMEBODY.  I don't suspect Hybrid right now, but hey - it's Day 1.  I have nothing to go on.

 

What's the vote count anyway?  I'll check back and look.....

[Verbal32]

Ok, I have what I think is an accurate count.  First of all, on behalf of Dae, whom I'm sure agrees with me, STOP VOTING FOR THE SAME PERSON IN ALMOST EVERY POST MYND!!!!!!!  :D  I had a notepad next to my computer where I'm adding up votes, and I think I wrote your name down about 9 times for Hybrid, lol.  Once will do.  ;)

 

Hybrid (3) - Tigara, Mynd, Catina

Mynd (2) - Samurai, Spirit

Spirit (1) - Jaydena

Catina (1) - Hybrid

Nae (1) - Liathiana

 

The deadline is sometime this afternoon, I think.  Also, I'm surprised that neither Sam nor Spirit has unvoted Mynd yet.  While his could certainly be a false reveal, I'm not getting that feeling due to it being so early.  Regardless, it's too much of a risk to lynch a potential innocent roled player on Day 1.

 

I hate to say this, but perhaps we should look at consolidating some votes here.  I HATE voting on Day 1, but I will if it means not having a random lynch.

[Liathiana]

For the sake of not having a random lynch [glow=red,2,300]unvote[/glow]

 

[glow=red,2,300]Hybrid[/glow]

[Daetirion]

 

Frustration showed visibly in many Aes Sedai faces, as with the sun setting and there still being many miles to the town they intended to rest at. As the sun began to sink, they were all viewing each other with suspicion.

 

Without knowing who exactly started it, suddenly all the Aes Sedai had embraced the source and weaves filled the air. As the dust settled, it was Tigara Sedai of the Brown Ajah who toppled from her horse.

 

A terrible accident, and knowing that with one of their own number down, tracking the Black Ajah would be ever more difficult. They rode the remaining miles to the village in silence, and all retired to the solitude of their rooms, hoping to survive the night

 

Tigara, a Roleless Innocent, has been mod killed. It is now Night 1. Night 1 will end at 10 am on Friday 24th.

 

Please send in your night actions asap

 

[Myndrunner]

Crap, well at least it wasn't a Finder or Healer.  Sorry to see you go Tigara, but better you than a more active innocent.  Now then....

 

We began the game with 14 players.  It is reasonable to assume that out of this bunch there are anywhere between 3-4 Black Ajah.  If the Finder reads a mafia tonight, it may be beneficial to reveal on Day 2 but it could also be fatal.  What are everyone's thoughts on this?

[Hybrid]

I'm thinking 3 Black Ajah and Mesaana, who might be a mafia godfather type role.

[Spirit1025]

Also, I'm surprised that neither Sam nor Spirit has unvoted Mynd yet

When I voted, I said I would probably not be back online before the deadline. Such was the case. I can only check the internet from my office right now, and I only work in the mornings. Had I made it back before the deadline, I would have unvoted Mynd. I'm not entirely convinced yet about his reveal, but I don't want to risk it right now. (I seem to recall he did this same thing last game...)

 

We will see what happens tonight, and hopefully have more information to go on for Day 2.

[Myndrunner]

I'm thinking 3 Black Ajah and Mesaana, who might be a mafia godfather type role.

 

Could be....Mesaana is either a player or an NPC role, like Verbal's Apocalypse.  I'm thinking the former here though in that the game is basically the hunt for Mesaana and her Black Ajah. 

 

Spirit, I fake revealed as Healer in the last game to throw the mafia off and save my neck.  It is quite possible that I am fake revealing in this game too, I could be a roleless innocent.  Guess the Mafia will have to keep on guessing about that....

 

I think that the Night Kill tonight will be very signifigant.....if it occurs at all.  ::)

[Dark Justice]

sooo. that was crap. I dont mind it being an inactive player, but the fact that no majority was made, makes for less information. Sorry for not managing to be back for deadline, but I had lots of work to do in my restaurant..

[Samuraiflip05]

I gave my reasons...I wouldn't be back before the deadline either....and I hate NOT getting a vote count on the first day.  Like I said the first time. 

 

Lynch vote has a chance of being a Mafia....A NO VOTE has 0% chance of success.  The latter is much more beneficial for the Mafia.  Thus why Mynd seems more suspicious to me.  His reveal could be a lie, and if it is, then a mafia nature would want to spread blame to minimize the opportunity of a majority vote. 

 

Mynd kept his vote on Hybrid, and acted as if that were the person he was after, while at the same time throwing accusations at 3-4 other people.

 

:-\

[CatinaSedai]

it makes sense to me that the mafia would want random lynches cuz they dont give us anything to go on.  we should have lynched hybrid cuz it would have told us things about who voted for him and who didnt.  

 

i think it is funny that both samuraiflip and spirit were both online in time to change their votes to go with the majority on hybrid but the didnt.  it is almost like they wanted us to not get any information.  im not calling mafia on them yet but i think we need to hear from them.

 

sammy you had plenty of time to change your vote but you didnt. 

[Myndrunner]

I gave my reasons...I wouldn't be back before the deadline either....and I hate NOT getting a vote count on the first day.  Like I said the first time. 

 

Lynch vote has a chance of being a Mafia....A NO VOTE has 0% chance of success.  The latter is much more beneficial for the Mafia.  Thus why Mynd seems more suspicious to me.  His reveal could be a lie, and if it is, then a mafia nature would want to spread blame to minimize the opportunity of a majority vote. 

 

Mynd kept his vote on Hybrid, and acted as if that were the person he was after, while at the same time throwing accusations at 3-4 other people.

 

:-\

 

I'm sorry, I don't see where I was "throwing accusations at 3-4 other people" as you claim.  I locked in on one person, Hybrid, because to me he acted the most suspicious.  I pushed for his lynch because we needed to avoid a no vote penalty.  Am I convinced he is mafia?  I never was in the first place, but, like everyone agrees, a majority lynch tells us a lot more than a random one.

 

I revealed to save my own neck, not to mention a valuable role for the innocent team. 

 

I find your post very intriguing to read, its almost phoned in.  One could read your post as a half-assed attempt to justify not changing your vote, which we both know you had the opportunity to do so.  Its almost like you were told what to say or what the arguement angle should be.  Is that what your mafia buddies told you to say?

[Samuraiflip05]

The last time I had been on prior to the deadline, there was not enough evidence to pinpoint anyone inparticular.  There were also several vote changes.  With no pattern of decisive action, I opted not to change my vote. 

 

 

[Myndrunner]

Also, the last time you had been on prior to the deadline, we had a majority in the works on Hybrid and your vote could have helped us reach a majority.  Voting Hybrid would have given us different information if he was innocent or mafia, he would have been the wisest choice.   

 

Pretty weak excuse if you ask me...I suspect you wanted us to lose the majority....and get no information. 

[Spirit1025]

think it is funny that both samuraiflip and spirit were both online in time to change their votes to go with the majority on hybrid but the didnt.  it is almost like they wanted us to not get any information.  im not calling mafia on them yet but i think we need to hear from them.

 

Um...no,Catina, I wasn't. I got online to vote, when I voted for Mynd. I stated in that post that I MOST LIKELY WOULD NOT be back before the deadline. And I was not. Do you see any posts anywhere on this forum from me in the hours between my vote for Mynd and the deadline? If I had been here, I would have changed my vote to help get a majority. I want information as much as you do.

[Dark Justice]

sooo. Night over soon???

[Naeann]

One would wish.  Three little night actions.. heal, find, and kill.  Get it over with already. *sighs*

[Dark Justice]

and you have sendt inn your kill, right?

[Naeann]

I don't have a night action sweetie but if I did it would have been sent in before the flipping deadline. :-*