90's Action Hero Mafia - Game Over - Mafia Wins

ed2funy · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 12:22 AM, Verbal32 said:

I was making a joke towards him, but there's a little bit of truth in it. Read his posts - see for yourself.

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how about you explain Arkansas?

ed2funy · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 12:25 AM, DPR said:

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ew did we just agree?

ed2funy · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 1:06 AM, DPR said:

That was a joke in the wake of your joke.

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I got CRS from my dad.
really do miss nested quotes

ed2funy · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 1:11 AM, dicetosser1 said:

lol last game here was a convo on how it was bad to do that @ed2funy

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huh. Like… what happened to like 13 years ago?

ed2funy · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 1:14 AM, DPR said:

Terrible post

Adding one’s self to the town list is about as scummy as it gets lol

But you’re free to disagree and go ahead and put all your reads out.

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Since WHEN?!

ihaven’t even started a notepad so you’ll have to wait until I start that.

ed2funy · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 1:17 AM, DPR said:

Dread Pirate E… ?

Ephraim? No. Eustace? No. Evan? No. ?

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Let my typos be great!

ed2funy · April 21

Okay back to JordanCon prep then I’m gonna try to start a list before bed.

dicetosser1 · April 21

Hey Ed! Wanna guess who one of the participants I. That convo was iirc?? Lolololol

keyholder21 · April 21

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These three, especially in succession, are like night and day different to read than all previous posts which is sus. @HeavyHalfMoonBlade Why did you change your posting style all of a sudden when you were defending it earlier?

On 4/20/2025 at 4:44 PM, Ironeyes said:

So you're saying that your normal play style is to react emotionally to people suspecting you until it gets you lynched?

Haha no bill of rights = not a real gov't

Actually though I seriously respect non attorney court staff for putting up with members of one of the most caustic professions when they're at their most stressed out. I'm not gonna be a litigator because it's such a grind.

That unvote was off of Dice, Ithi. Rather than trying to save Heavy I was removing my joke vote before an anticipated period of inactivity. The other stuff, well, your interpretation is defensible. I'm holding off on committing to my first wolfping after years of being out of practice. From the outside it could look like defending him in a subtle way.

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First bold - ?? that's the opposite of what he said.

Italics - What about a government that isn't following their own Bill of Rights? How do you feel about that?

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Second bold - why??

On 4/20/2025 at 5:00 PM, RandA lThor said:

I should probably note before there are any overreactions, I'm still at the "love tap" stage of my catch up 😂

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Why you so nervous?

On 4/20/2025 at 5:37 PM, RandA lThor said:

Caught up!

Have given some tells that I need to figure out: Nyn, Ithi, Turin, Ironeyes, Dice, Heavy

The rest including me a lil more quiet and vibing. Could obviously be due to IRL reasons like myself, but Id wager scum are split between the two groups.

Heavy read initially to me as discombobulated town... but maybe Im too trusting

Ithi's reasoning post felt like it had some gems in it, one way or the other.

There is, I feel as much as possible from current info, less chance that all of Dice, Ironeyes, and Heavy are all town.

Will ruminate more, and get back to the wedding Im supposed to be at in the mean time 😂

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First Bold - like what? This looks like "I'm trying to look like I'm here and contributing something"

Italics - what two groups? Do you mean your list above and "the rest"? Meaning, scum is somewhere...in the player list??

Second bold - again, says nothing.

Second italics - less chance than what?

On 4/20/2025 at 5:38 PM, RandA lThor said:

Unvote

Things seem like they might be getting a little srs soon 👀

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Nyn was in no danger from your vote? This looks nervous again.

keyholder21 · April 21

On 4/20/2025 at 6:03 PM, ed2funy said:

Vote: Tigs

hi

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This a joke vote, or serious?

On 4/20/2025 at 6:28 PM, Ironeyes said:

Joke vote part: I was saying that joke votes don't matter usually. Heavy was taking them very seriously. But sometimes they do, so I didn't want to gloss over that.

Memery: I was messing with Turin. He was trying to make the game serious and I was saying that we might fluff post right over the top of him.

As for my take on Heavy, how exactly is what I said any different from him being new town, as you said? I said he sounds like the new kid on a block of people who all know each other already.

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Bold - That's not the same thing. Yes, we both said he's new, but you didn't specify town and being new is NOT alignment indicative.

On 4/20/2025 at 7:11 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

God I hate that you made me go back to find this and now you've just dipped out.

See ^^^

Also I am still very much feeling that Heavy might be Mafia. As you can see, in his more recent posts, he is perfectly capable of posting in regular sentences.

I still feel that his initial posts were overly crafted and careful to say nothing at all and I'm not sure why a Town person would feel they needed to be that careful.

But then the sudden pop up defence from Marsh made him far more interesting.

Damage control?

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Bold - I didn't make you do anything 😛. Thanks for quoting it though, so I didn't have to go find it lololol. My b, I missed that that's what you were responding to.

Italics - I did notice the change and it is definitely interesting.

Second bold - did he do this in the other two games - start off confusing and switch to easier to understand?

Second italics - Fair, but FWIW I feel the opposite vibe from that? Like, why would new scum come in and just being confusing AF and draw all that attention? More concerning is the 180.

On 4/20/2025 at 7:40 PM, Nynaeve said:

"Sustained" was in reply to Marsh answering my question. I was joking, using court slang. it's when a lawyer raises an objection to the judge amd the judge accepts it. I guess I'm not as funny as I thought 😜

As for dice, I'm willing to call it a feeling right now. It started with him lightly shading me for joke voting him around the time Marsh did.

Then his reaction to heavy isn't exactly what I'd expect, I suppose. I would think dice would be more understanding to a noob losing it from possibly mere inexperience and/or an inherent tendency to be a scummy player regardless of rand. This is of course loosely based on my impression thus far and is contingent to that impression being correct, but his lol welcome to mafia, I'd lynch you cause you've never been lynched before... dunno.

Plus, and this could be me just being extremly self centered (lol), but considering I haven't played in over two years, that he got me to sign up, and factoring in our usual dynamics in games, I feel like he's being a bit stand offish with me thus far. Ie might be keeping a bit of a distance. Begs the question, why? I'm pretty awesome.

In any case, I'd really like him to place an actual serious vote. Cause the shift from Marsh to heavy isn't doing it for me. If he actually gave the impression that he was suss of heavy then I prolly wouldn't mind it. But that's not the case.

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I knew sustained was court slang, lol. Just wasn't sure what you meant by your response.

Fair enough on dice re: reaction to Heavy and his actions toward you. Although, I don't really feel like his vote re: lynch cause you've never been lynched is really that alignment indicative for him?

I do, though, think he's not been here much or not said much when he is, which I know weekend and all, but I let people slide for that last game and they ended up being scum, so it makes me itchy.

dicetosser1 · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 2:43 AM, keyholder21 said:

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Italics - What about a government that isn't following their own Bill of Rights? How do you feel about that?

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lololol Key speaking my thoughts! I held the same comment back

On 4/21/2025 at 2:43 AM, keyholder21 said:

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Er...probably shouldn't actually get into that in game. I'm being snarky about American politics. Ignore this haha!

Second bold - why??

Why you so nervous?

First Bold - like what? This looks like "I'm trying to look like I'm here and contributing something"

Italics - what two groups? Do you mean your list above and "the rest"? Meaning, scum is somewhere...in the player list??

Second bold - again, says nothing.

Second italics - less chance than what?

Nyn was in no danger from your vote? This looks nervous again.

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Glad I’m not the only one seeing this

key I’m here if you want to talk to me

keyholder21 · April 21

On 4/20/2025 at 7:49 PM, Turin Turambar said:

My reads are based on opinions of town behaviour from Ithi and Nyn. The questioning, and looking at little things from Ithi. General tone and something I've forgotten from Nyn. I'll have to look back. Dice said he would be willing to lynch Heavy regardless of alignment. That is antitown behaviour. He engaged in anti Town behaviour last game and was mafia. Ironeyes did seem to be defending Heavy. Regardless of Heavy's alignment it seems early to defend anyone.

My activity is down in part because I'm a bit broken from last game. I'm taking it a little slower while I settle in. Also, I've been watching ALL OF THE REACTIONS to episode 8, which has been enjoyable and enlightening. But that's for another thread.

I admit I didn't really follow the sign up too closely for above reasons. I also wanted to hear his response directly.

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Fair on the reads. I like the poking from Ithi and Nyn too - feels like they are trying to solve the game.

Dice, I feel meh on because I feel like that vote is pretty on brand for him regardless lol.

I agree that IE is defending Heavy.

I'm sorry to hear you are hurting from last game. These are supposed to be fun, so that sucks.

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On 4/20/2025 at 8:05 PM, Turin Turambar said:

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It was in the sign up thread???

Lololololol

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LOL, I thought you didn't pay attention to it? I know Ithi was his mod, but I wanted to know why dice was able to understand that's what Heavy was saying since there were some of the rest of us who didn't get that.

On 4/20/2025 at 8:31 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Quoted for context.

This convo happened on page 7. I can't exactly figure out how to make the quotes show everything so I ask everyone to read this section and let me know if you think Heavy is cutting his quotes in a manner that misrepresented things. It did to me but I want to make sure I'm not reading it wrong.

Also, perhaps an unpopular opinion, but I feel everything on thread can be used to solve the game. Slips happen in the most unexpected places.

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It doesn't appear as misrepresentation to me. More concerning, imo, is the clarity of his response to Ithi.

On 4/20/2025 at 8:36 PM, ed2funy said:

What’s the “3p” mean in the Condemner? They have 3 people they need to eliminate?

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Weird q for someone who has much experience playing, even if rusty. Seems pretty clear to me?

On 4/20/2025 at 8:46 PM, Ironeyes said:

1: Idk, Turin at the time was one of the only people openly trying to start making reads so he was top of mind

First bold: Heavy said it was his "style" that gets him read as mafia frequently, and I wanted clarification.

Second bold: Yeah, people get attached. People with something to lose get attached more easily. As rando vanilla townie, if I die I die and the survivors learn some things. It's not a bit deal on D1. As vanilla scum, if I die my team is down 25-50% of its membership and my death potentially clears the townies who killed me. There's a big mismatch of incentives there.

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re: 1 - But Ithi had also been poking at the thread, especially Heavy at the time, and you didn't even mention her?

I already addressed the first bold in an earlier post.

Second bold - lol I fight like hell no matter what. I understand what you're saying, but, imo, any townie loss is bad for town.

On 4/20/2025 at 8:51 PM, Ironeyes said:

Interesting that so many of you guys are interpreting my stance on Heavy as a defense. In my mind, I was pulling back from an initial attack on him out of fear that I was about to lead a vicious lynch of a new player much like what happened to me in my first ever mafia game (Mistborn Mafia, might still be up on the forums somewhere). Perhaps I didn't make my suspicion clear enough before the pullback.

Fair. That's what I intended to communicate originally.

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Bold - this is a weird characterization. You hadn't even voted him??

keyholder21 · April 21

Okay y'all, I tried to catch up but I am slow blinking here. I have some time before my meetings tomorrow, so I will def catch up and should be able to be around off and on for most of the day.

dicetosser1 · April 21

@keyholder21 do you have anything you want from me before you go

keyholder21 · April 21

@dicetosser1 - I gotta get to bed, but what are your thoughts on folks so far? Anything grab your attention??

keyholder21 · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 4:03 AM, dicetosser1 said:

@keyholder21 do you have anything you want from me before you go

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Lol, I was caught up in trying to catch up and just saw your post that you were here. Yes, see above.

dicetosser1 · April 21

You caught the same things I did on Rand

ive got Nyn as Town. You as well

i think there’s some weird in iron eyes and heavy but I think it’s on Marsha end really and may not indicate much

dpr and verb seem to be playing with themselves again with Ed reaching thru his cage to poke at them

turins going off half cocked on crap all

itgis poking in a way I like

dicetosser1 · April 21

Ithi not ithgis lol

dicetosser1 · April 21

Oh and my votes on rand

Nynaeve · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 4:09 AM, dicetosser1 said:

You caught the same things I did on Rand

ive got Nyn as Town. You as well

i think there’s some weird in iron eyes and heavy but I think it’s on Marsha end really and may not indicate much

dpr and verb seem to be playing with themselves again with Ed reaching thru his cage to poke at them

turins going off half cocked on crap all

itgis poking in a way I like

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How about explain what the impressions mean to you lean wise? Because it's unclear for most the players mentioned.

Make sure you include explaining the read on me.

Thanks

Nynaeve · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 3:09 AM, keyholder21 said:

I knew sustained was court slang, lol. Just wasn't sure what you meant by your response.

Fair enough on dice re: reaction to Heavy and his actions toward you. Although, I don't really feel like his vote re: lynch cause you've never been lynched is really that alignment indicative for him?

I do, though, think he's not been here much or not said much when he is, which I know weekend and all, but I let people slide for that last game and they ended up being scum, so it makes me itchy.

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Oh okay. I was just acknowledging that he responded. And wanted to joke. Don't think I liked or hated his response at the time. Felt neutral about it.

As for dice, hard to say. He could be a bonehead "out of principle" regardless of alignment, true. He's a bit extreme that way. But imo it's usually more about certain things (like self voting).

Could be a memory thing cause it's been a while but on the other hand... considering it was mentioned that he played with heavy in his first 2 games, why go the lollynch root in his 3rd game? I'd be expecting some insight from someone who has played with him since scummy players are a challanging read.

Nynaeve · April 21

Guys I got back to work today after a week off so I had to catch up in a rush. Will check in after work when I get a breather.

Nynaeve · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 4:09 AM, dicetosser1 said:

You caught the same things I did on Rand

ive got Nyn as Town. You as well

i think there’s some weird in iron eyes and heavy but I think it’s on Marsha end really and may not indicate much

dpr and verb seem to be playing with themselves again with Ed reaching thru his cage to poke at them

turins going off half cocked on crap all

itgis poking in a way I like

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Thoughts about Tigs' drive by? You failed to mention it

Ithillian Turambar · April 21

I'm probably gonna be accused of being 'googly eyes' but I honestly don't know why Dice seems so cross and dismissive about Turin. Well apart from the fact that Turin is voting for him maybe.

On 4/21/2025 at 12:11 AM, dicetosser1 said:

so you DID read the signups then.

tell me now if your gonna start this town testing crap so I can save myself the blow up and start ignoring you now.

Be clear you pull that on me in ANY game and I will not play along no matter what my alignment.

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I thought his little comment in the spoiler box was a joke. That is usually a place where he hides his lols and funny asides. So he said 'in the sign up thread??? Lololol because he did NOT read any further in the sign up Thread. He did say he'd not bothered to join in the chit chat there. Maybe you should try being a bit less grumpy. You actually don't HAVE to blow up about things.

Let it be known that in the last game, Turin asked everyone to say if they were Town or not. Turin was Town. Two people who had difficulty answering his question in a simple way were Mafia. There was no Lie Detector in the game but the Mafia didn't know that at the time. Did it cause all kinds of problems later on in the game? Heck yes. But I'm not gonna discount how Turin plays just because he's a bit unorthodox.

On 4/21/2025 at 4:09 AM, dicetosser1 said:

turins going off half cocked on crap all

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Disagree. I find your attempt to discredit his thought process interesting though. I too believe that all game thread content is useful for solving the game and I openly agreed with Turin, and yet you do not have me as being 'half cocked on crap'.

Maybe I'm just more used to his sense of humour, and understand how he plays and tries to solve, but if I had to make a list right now I would have him towards the town end of things.

But I'm not gonna make a list right now because I woke up too early and want to go back to sleep really.

But this irked me and I had to say something.

dicetosser1 · April 21

On 4/21/2025 at 4:54 AM, Nynaeve said:

Oh okay. I was just acknowledging that he responded. And wanted to joke. Don't think I liked or hated his response at the time. Felt neutral about it.

As for dice, hard to say. He could be a bonehead "out of principle" regardless of alignment, true. He's a bit extreme that way. But imo it's usually more about certain things (like self voting).

Could be a memory thing cause it's been a while but on the other hand... considering it was mentioned that he played with heavy in his first 2 games, why go the lollynch root in his 3rd game? I'd be expecting some insight from someone who has played with him since scummy players are a challanging read.

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like I said it was cause he was carrying on about never being lynched

you are pure tone and gut feel. Went “Town Nyn real quick” like I’m not doubting it at all

as for insight. I’m not sure any of us can help with that cause I don’t think any of us worked him out. He is confusing and emotional. There was a lot of questioning and sussing because he seemed to know too much for a newbie , too many terms etc, but he was researching as he went I believe

On 4/21/2025 at 5:02 AM, Nynaeve said:

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Thoughts about Tigs' drive by? You failed to mention it

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you’re right I did

i was sitting here waiting for her to come back and thinking it bad that she hadn’t

tbh I haven’t noticed now if she has come back.

so off what I’ve seen it doesnt look good but I won’t lynch someone day one off it

On 4/21/2025 at 5:53 AM, Ithillian Turambar said:

I'm probably gonna be accused of being 'googly eyes' but I honestly don't know why Dice seems so cross and dismissive about Turin. Well apart from the fact that Turin is voting for him maybe.

I thought his little comment in the spoiler box was a joke. That is usually a place where he hides his lols and funny asides. So he said 'in the sign up thread??? Lololol because he did NOT read any further in the sign up Thread. He did say he'd not bothered to join in the chit chat there. Maybe you should try being a bit less grumpy. You actually don't HAVE to blow up about things.

Let it be known that in the last game, Turin asked everyone to say if they were Town or not. Turin was Town. Two people who had difficulty answering his question in a simple way were Mafia. There was no Lie Detector in the game but the Mafia didn't know that at the time. Did it cause all kinds of problems later on in the game? Heck yes. But I'm not gonna discount how Turin plays just because he's a bit unorthodox.

Disagree. I find your attempt to discredit his thought process interesting though. I too believe that all game thread content is useful for solving the game and I openly agreed with Turin, and yet you do not have me as being 'half cocked on crap'.

Maybe I'm just more used to his sense of humour, and understand how he plays and tries to solve, but if I had to make a list right now I would have him towards the town end of things.

But I'm not gonna make a list right now because I woke up too early and want to go back to sleep really.

But this irked me and I had to say something.

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there’s two things here

1) it takes virtually no effort for Turin to p me off atm and carrying on about non town behaviour is gonna do it. I am absolutely biased when it comes to him atm.

2) crap all. He’s pontificating on non town behaviour and voting me because I was playing around with heavy. I hadn’t been back, hadn’t replied to his question or anything. Hence half cocked. I wouldn’t say I tried to discredit his thought process as I disagreed with it. As soon as I do that it can be labelled discrediting can’t it?

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