Game Over - Hamilton Mafia - SMFDR's Win!

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 12:27 PM, Darthe said:

Zander’s gotta run outta fires for people to die in sometime soon yeah?

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No more fires can be lit in retirement so no worries lol.

[Gudrean]

@Zander? What if you would have voted with Dice instead of me? would you still be mad at me?

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 2:29 PM, Gudrean said:

@Zander? What if you would have voted with Dice instead of me? would you still be mad at me?

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OFC I couldn't vote both of you the same day

 

I mislunched Day 1 (this is only a technicality imho as Turin obviously was a Wolf as he killed as many Villas as any Wolf in the game or more lolololol)

 

Lunched a Wolf Day 2

 

Lunched a Wolf Day 3 

 

Lunched a Wolf Day 4

 

Was the only Town player alive since Day 3?

 

Still lost 

 

Didn't matter what I did or who I voted.  Only mistake I made was I thought  that you were 3rd and Dice was more obviously a  Wolf and figured maybe we'd win together or at least I'd feel less bad about and even a little proud of you doing it alone as 3rd party.  I was right about you since Day 1...I knew you weren't Town.  Dice just had more Wolf equity/Made more sense with both sides imho than you.

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 2:42 PM, Zander? said:

 

OFC I couldn't vote both of you the same day

 

I mislunched Day 1 (this is only a technicality imho as Turin obviously was a Wolf as he killed as many Villas as any Wolf in the game or more lolololol)

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  On 4/14/2025 at 2:42 PM, Zander? said:

Wolf NK N 111¹

Lunched a Wolf Day 2

 

Lunched a Wolf Day 3 

 

Lunched a Wolf Day 4

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  On 4/14/2025 at 2:42 PM, Zander? said:

 

Was the only Town player alive since Day 3?

 

Still lost 

 

Didn't matter what I did or who I voted.  Only mistake I made was I thought  that you were 3rd and Dice was more obviously a  Wolf and figured maybe we'd win together or at least I'd feel less bad about and even a little proud of you doing it alone as 3rd party.  I was right about you since Day 1...I knew you weren't Town.  Dice just had more Wolf equity/Made more sense with both sides imho than you.

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Plus Seph overloaded my Tinfoil levels trying to decide if he'd choose his teammate thinking I think that I'd assume no chance he would or A Townie because I'd assume he's never Vote his scummate 

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 2:42 PM, Zander? said:

 

OFC I couldn't vote both of you the same day

 

I mislunched Day 1 (this is only a technicality imho as Turin obviously was a Wolf as he killed as many Villas as any Wolf in the game or more lolololol)

Wolf NK'd Night 1 or 2 

Lunched a Wolf Day 2

 

Lunched a Wolf Day 3 

Wolk Nk'd Night 3

Lunched a Wolf Day 4

 

Was the only Town player alive since Day 3?

 

Still lost 

 

Didn't matter what I did or who I voted.  Only mistake I made was I thought  that you were 3rd and Dice was more obviously a  Wolf and figured maybe we'd win together or at least I'd feel less bad about and even a little proud of you doing it alone as 3rd party.  I was right about you since Day 1...I knew you weren't Town.  Dice just had more Wolf equity/Made more sense with both sides imho than you.

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[Gudrean]

  On 4/14/2025 at 2:53 PM, Zander? said:

 

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So you're not proud of me? You have to know doing this to you hurt me. 😢

[Turin Turambar]

  On 4/14/2025 at 11:08 AM, Zander? said:

 

Maybe...and that's a big maybe I could maybe sorta somewhat prolly doubtfully lol agree a bit with your "logic" but never never never Day 1; especially early on....and even then...I've played over 100 Plus games at least 30 or so semi advanced to advanced games and I've literally seen LD 1 time....once lolololol. So creating so much WINFOM in game that progressively itself my the flips became super WINFOMy just is Wolfy...day 1 is just about fluff at the start and then trying to find a couple Townies and at least a Wolf suspect your feel minimum a little decent about.  No sense ever focusing on mechanics till you start seeing some actual flips otherwise it's baseless speculation.

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The entire point is that it is totally independent of actual setup. It is psychology against the wolves. I was George Washington. If there was going to be one, it would have been him. 

You don't have enough to speculate at all. You just have to do it. It puts pressure on the wolves. 

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 3:34 PM, Turin Turambar said:

The entire point is that it is totally independent of actual setup. It is psychology against the wolves. I was George Washington. If there was going to be one, it would have been him. 

You don't have enough to speculate at all. You just have to do it. It puts pressure on the wolves. 

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It was WINFOM lololololol. Especially Day 1 but we'll have to agree to disagree as I get the feeling were both pretty stubborn on fundamentally view Mafia differently lol

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 3:09 PM, Gudrean said:

So you're not proud of me? You have to know doing this to you hurt me. 😢

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No it obv didn't cause id it did you guys woulda Nk'd me early and not make me go through it.  So again DIAF

[HeavyHalfMoonBlade]

Zander, you chose to be IC. In the previous game us new players were ridiculed for not protecting the confirmed town player. So you were safe, optimal play meant you were protected. So everyone taught us. 

 

Once Key and DPR were NK'd you had no protection but Town had lost. It was a battle between the two mafia factions. You cannot be mad at people for playing the game, with talent and fairly. NKing you after that point would have lost the game for either mafia faction. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

  On 4/14/2025 at 4:28 PM, Zander? said:

 

No it obv didn't cause id it did you guys woulda Nk'd me early and not make me go through it.  So again DIAF

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There's no need to be mean to Gud about this. 

[Gudrean]

  On 4/14/2025 at 4:28 PM, Zander? said:

 

No it obv didn't cause id it did you guys woulda Nk'd me early and not make me go through it.  So again DIAF

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we only got NKs on 2nd and 4th nights fwiw. 2nd night I used it to take out DPR and used my shot on Key. 1st NK was Dice taking out Darthe and 3rd was Dice taking out Seph. Besides you had protection on my NK night so I couldn't take you out. 

 

Also for as much as everyone thought I had TMI, not true. With the setup of the game, 3 person mafia team and my 2 person team, our team only knew that myself and Darthe were wolves. Everyone one else in the game was as much a secret to us as it was to anyone, which made it hard. 

 

We had to take out all 3 other wolves and get majority to win. We had the ability to recruit but there was only 1 person in the entire game we could recruit and it was Seph.

I tried to recruit Turin first but he was the wrong person so it was denied. My 2nd guess, which was done on intuition alone was Seph.

I also used intuition to guess that Verb was a mafia neighbor. I don't get to control my intuition, it either comes or doesn't. I got lucky twice in this game with using it.

I knew DPR and Key were too good to allow them to stay so I used my shots on them before they had a chance to take me out. If I had more shots would have taken out Dice or Verb too, but alas I did not. 

 

Just thought you should know how it all went from my side. I see you as a mentor and more importantly a friend! p.s. I love your 1k posts a game. ☮️

[Turin Turambar]

I firmly believe that the winning team totally deserved the win. Town made A LOT OF MISTAKES, but the Virginians made the important plays.

 

Well done 

[Ithillian Turambar]

If DPR had had his way on D2 they would have been completely out of the game, cos he wanted to vote out Gud lol.

 

 

 

[Turin Turambar]

Yes. Probably at least partly my fault for distracting him. It really would have been much better if I hadn't lost that coin flip. Then the entire curse of D2 wouldn't have happened. Or maybe it just would have been something different,  lol.

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 4:47 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

There's no need to be mean to Gud about this. 

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I'm not lol

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 4:45 PM, HeavyHalfMoonBlade said:

Zander, you chose to be IC. In the previous game us new players were ridiculed for not protecting the confirmed town player. So you were safe, optimal play meant you were protected. So everyone taught us. 

 

Once Key and DPR were NK'd you had no protection but Town had lost. It was a battle between the two mafia factions. You cannot be mad at people for playing the game, with talent and fairly. NKing you after that point would have lost the game for either mafia faction. 

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I'm still baffles people don't know when I'm joking lol

[Zander?]

Just talk to Seph it's sad I have to explain this and ruin the joke but apparently people believe I'd wish actual death on people for a game lol.   Now that that's out of the way back to the joke.

 

Seph and Gud DIAF

[Ithillian Turambar]

Yeah but Gud was really sad 😞

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 6:26 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Yeah but Gud was really sad 😞

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She deserves to be....Wolves deserve nothing....

[seph]

  On 4/14/2025 at 6:20 PM, Zander? said:

Just talk to Seph it's sad I have to explain this and ruin the joke but apparently people believe I'd wish actual death on people for a game lol.   Now that that's out of the way back to the joke.

 

Seph and Gud DIAF

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[Ithillian Turambar]

^^^ players every time when the Curse of Day 2 strikes

[Zander?]

  On 4/14/2025 at 6:46 PM, seph said:

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Not enough fire not enough suffering 

 

 

[Zander?]

In Mafia why do the Wolves win when there's parity?

[Turin Turambar]

They have the guns