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[Zander?]

  On 3/17/2025 at 3:41 PM, Verbal32 said:

I'm not saying town has to follow me, but trust that my reads are coming from a townie POV.  I believe in a world where Zander thinks he's "lockcleared" and can do what he wants.  And I think both Cass and Shad casted a little doubt on him at times, and they are both confirmed town.

 

My vote on Zander stays.

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You're bad Verb.  But at least I can wash my hands of blame post game..

 

Why do you think the Wolves shoot Shad?  He had me Towny in what World would a wolf me not kill someone else...

 

Like man it's really hard to keep going in this when a cleared Towny keeps literally helping the wolves.

[Zander?]

  On 3/17/2025 at 3:42 PM, Verbal32 said:

@Zander?

 

Thunderdome in 3...2....1....

 

 

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

/Zander'd

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No.

 

You're cleared town.

 

And tbh you've pretty much killed my desire to try.

 

Not quite but I just don't know and really can't much bring myself to care TBH 

[Zander?]

  On 3/17/2025 at 3:42 PM, Turin Turambar said:

Blue: Why are you wasting energy badmouthing Verb? He's obviously town. Just because he's voting you? Also, are you trying to say Shad had you as his top Town read or that he had you as likely town? If you could provide evidence of this it would be appreciated. 

Orange: I don't understand any of this. It looks like flailing. Dice in the last game did well. I'm not sure what that has to do with this game. You were tinfoiling Shad. Look into those on Cass and check their reasoning but to just wave about is wrong. 

 

Wagonomics takes #WERK. I'm gonna go back and look at EoD using my laptop if I can remove my dog from my lap. Hopefully I can find something helpful. 

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You ISO Shad.  I said it because thats what he said has me town at that point.   He never said I was lock clear.  Just that I was town then to him.

 

Orange is saying those players are playing differently than last game.  Some a little some more.  To a meta player that indicates usually that they are a different alignment.  This is pretty basic stuff man.

[Zander?]

  On 3/17/2025 at 4:31 PM, Lenlo said:

I'm legitimately surprised at this tbh, considering how aware you were of your bad D1 play. Yeah I was gung-ho, because I thought we had caught a solid wolf D1, something that's usually rather difficult.

 

Fair enough I guess. You are the only confirmed town in the game though, so I hope you can understand why I'd put a bit more stock in what you're saying.

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That's not correct Lenlo.

 

A Towny always should believe a cleared player BELIEVEs what they are saying but unless they're a Active PR like cop or seer.  They can obviously STILL BE WRONG.

[Lenlo]

  On 3/17/2025 at 4:49 PM, Zander? said:

 

That's not correct Lenlo.

 

A Towny always should believe a cleared player BELIEVEs what they are saying but unless they're a Active PR like cop or seer.  They can obviously STILL BE WRONG.

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Sure, I'm not saying he's 100% right, that's why I'm questioning his push of you. All I said was that I put more stock in his words because I know they are coming from a town place.

[Zander?]

  On 3/17/2025 at 4:54 PM, Lenlo said:

Sure, I'm not saying he's 100% right, that's why I'm questioning his push of you. All I said was that I put more stock in his words because I know they are coming from a town place

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 Oh sorry I thought you meant put more stock in his reads.

[Zander?]

@Verbal32

 

Are you still here?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count

 

RTE - 2 (Dice, Heavy)

HEAVY - 3 (Lenlo, Zander, RTE)

ZANDER - 1 (Verbal)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean, Turin

 

This is a Deadline Game. This means whoever has the most votes as Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide between the players on the Lead Trains. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

 

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[Zander?]

Like Wolves don't even have to do anything just watch town kill itself.

 

If you're a Villager really need you to come dig in, share thoughts and reads, we HAVE to lunch a Wolf today.  We have to get roughly on the same page.  And we have to be better.  I'm not, not including myself here, I do too.

[dicetosser1]

  On 3/17/2025 at 8:21 AM, Zander? said:

 

This reads like Dice knowing Cass gonna flip Town and wanting no part ...and FML if Dice is a Wolf could possibly spew my nightmare Town scenario where RTE could actually be a Villager Fisherman.... FML 

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Lear. To. Read.

 

Cass' posts that i talked about didnt mesh with normal cass. I said id move but you moved in 1 minute.

 

Going back to RTE?  oh LOOK! thats exactly what i did! Why? Cause i think hes scum

 

  On 3/17/2025 at 1:59 PM, Zander? said:

@dicetosser1 thoughts on Heavy please when you're caught up?

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I think turin is right that hes reacting to pressure like a newbie. What Turin DIDNT say was that that doesnt mean hes not scum.

 

He does seem to be trying but his reads seem off. Lenlo was quiet i think he said. When? When he was going back and forth with you? When he was after Verb?

 

I think hes a viable lynch but that he could flip anything. Im going to put him on his lynch list but im not certain on it

 

 

Not lynching today

 

Verb

Len

 

WTL

 

RTE

Heavy

Zander

 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

  On 3/17/2025 at 7:01 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

Lear. To. Read.

 

Cass' posts that i talked about didnt mesh with normal cass. I said id move but you moved in 1 minute.

 

Going back to RTE?  oh LOOK! thats exactly what i did! Why? Cause i think hes scum

 

 

I think turin is right that hes reacting to pressure like a newbie. What Turin DIDNT say was that that doesnt mean hes not scum.

 

He does seem to be trying but his reads seem off. Lenlo was quiet i think he said. When? When he was going back and forth with you? When he was after Verb?

 

I think hes a viable lynch but that he could flip anything. Im going to put him on his lynch list but im not certain on it

 

 

Not lynching today

 

Verb

Len

 

WTL

 

RTE

Heavy

Zander

 

 

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Who are your Wolfmates?

 

There like no chance Town! Dice doesn't know in Town!Zander atp.

 

This isn't one of those 5% IMHO.

 

But I don't think you're today.... BECAUSE 

 

 

What I really find funny one the bigger reasons RTE should be lunched today.

 

He was the only CC to a flip Villa yesterday.  And noone else was willing to jump on him.

 

That alone is pretty good reason.

Add Multiple Fishing attempts.

 

RTE/Dice and who I wonder.....

 

 

[Zander?]

  On 3/17/2025 at 7:55 PM, Zander? said:

 

 

 

 

Who are your Wolfmates?

 

There like no chance Town! Dice doesn't know in Town!Zander atp.

 

This isn't one of those 5% IMHO.

 

But I don't think you're today.... BECAUSE 

 

 

What I really find funny one the bigger reasons RTE should be lunched today.

 

He was the only CC to a flip Villa yesterday.  And noone else was willing to jump on him.

 

That alone is pretty good reason.

Add Multiple Fishing attempts.

 

RTE/Dice and who I wonder.....

 

 

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CW not CC.

 

I'm not 100% on Dice but I'm getting there.

 

Maybe RTE/Dice and....I'm trying to think who makes sense here gotta see what others think and see if I can look back and see anything.

[Zander?]

  On 3/14/2025 at 9:59 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Official Vote Count

 

LENLO - 2 (Verbal, Cass)

RTE - 3 (Dice, Heavy, Turin)

VERBAL - 1 (Shad)

CASS - 5 (Lenlo, Cairos. Gudrean, RTE, Zander)

 

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In looking at these worldviews

 

Two of Dice, Turin, Lenlo, Heavy 

 

One of RTE, Gud, Carios

 

Or vice Versa

 

One of Dice, Turin, Lenlo, Heavy

Two of RTE Gud, Cairos 

 

I think Cairos has played differently enough from last game atp to put him my least likely from that grouping.

 

Gud's played pretty similar to last game except her involvement has been lower.  Which could be a first time Wolf thing

 

And obviously I sus RTE

 

So that grouping in order most Wolfy to least 

 

RTE/Gud/Cairos.

 

Of the other 

 

Dice I sus the 2nd most Turin a close 3rd.  Heavy the most BUT I've yet to see a Heavy Wolf game and have historically read Dice fairly well.

 

Lenlo is my true Deep Wolf.  Besides the beginning which looked bad for him his plays looked alot better but for someone smarter than me,.much more logical than me with a different approach and play style I find coming to and saying and sussing a lot of the same things/players as me almost like I don't wanna say sheeping but almost I dunno what the word is it's just this feeling I can't seem to fully shake or come to terms with.

 

So grouping in order Dice, Heavy, Turin, Lenlo 

 

When I look at it anyway I gotta know RTE and or Dice to see what makes sense if I'm right or if I'm wrong from there.

 

 

[ReleaseTheEvil]

At this point I would say just kill me to know I'm town. 

 

But your plan B is so flimsy if non existent cause you're convinced I'm a wolf and then town is so deep in the hole it's game over 

[Lenlo]

It sounds to me like RTE's flip cracks a lot of this open for most everyone. The only issue is I dont want to spend the next days assuming an RTE lynch and get nothing done, that's just a waste of our available time.

[Ithillian Turambar]

48 hours and 45 minutes till end of Day 2

[Turin Turambar]

I just read thru end of day 1. My computer kinda died in the middle of pulling things up so I had to go back and write notes to myself because I can't mq from more than one.page and it was from p45-61 (even my notes are 9 pages so that isn't going to be typed out)

My current stance in the game:

TURIN:(TOWN) my role pm says so

VERBAL:(TOWN) I believe he is the vig. I think I understand why he shot Shad (I think he should have shot either RTE,Z, or Lenlo ).

HEAVY:(TOWN) His stances and takes at EoD regarding Z and Cass I felt were from town every time. 

GUDREAN:(TOWN LEAN) She is still solid but I'm just starting to worry. Call it tinfoil.

CAIROS:(NULL) I still want more from him, but I think he is trying. Keep giving your thoughts. 

DICE:(MAFIA LEAN) There were a few things that bugged me, but there are bigger problems IMO.

LENLO:(MAFIA) The beginning thing about saying Z and me were T/T still bugs me. Some of the EoD comments also.

ZANDER:(MAFIA) He was the original suss at Cass. He contemplated starting a Cass train after she votes Lenlo making him a viable train(her vote made it

2-3-3 w/ Verb and RTE). He said he wouldn't leave RTE unless needed for majority (he asked about it, I answered, he acknowledged,  he still switched). He says he's all for getting RTE &Dice lynched but voting Heavy???

RTE:(MAFIA) So much. The fishing, the policy lynch on Cairos, the trolling at Verb's claim, acting like he knew Verb was lying when there was only one way he could (if he was the vig). He backed away from a CC when Verb challenged him about it because he realised that itwas a death sentence for him. I'm really a bit shocked and disappointed Verb didn't shoot him instead of Shad. Well now that I've reread all of end of day.

[Zander?]

  On 3/17/2025 at 8:43 PM, ReleaseTheEvil said:

At this point I would say just kill me to know I'm town. 

 

But your plan B is so flimsy if non existent cause you're convinced I'm a wolf and then town is so deep in the hole it's game over

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I most certainly didn't put us in this hole.

 

And my fear is the only confirmed villa is wanting to lunch someone I know 100% is Town and may be able to sway town because they at least know he BELIEVES he's right tho that track records not real reliable this game so far.  So I gotta try and save things best I can.  You were the only CW to a flipped Townie.   That's usually the right lunch Day 2 regardless plus ofc the fishing and all the other Wolfy stuff you've done so like Verb you're a Honary Wolf if you're Actually a Villa somehow lol.  I'll take my small fair share of the blame if we lose but my chunk of the pies a lot lower than others lolololol 

[Turin Turambar]

Willing to vote any of my mafia reads. Looking at the current VC, I choose...

 

VOTE ZANDER 

 

I don't see how any townie is currently on  Heavy, but maybe there aren't. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Official Vote Count

 

RTE - 2 (Dice, Heavy)

HEAVY - 3 (Lenlo, Zander, RTE)

ZANDER - 2 (Verbal, Turin)

 

Not Voting: Cairos, Gudrean

 

This is a Deadline Game. This means whoever has the most votes as Deadline will be Lynched. Don't be shouting at me to do multi vote counts. If there is a Tie, RandomOrg will decide between the players on the Lead Trains. It's in your interest to not leave Lynches up to chance.

 

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[Zander?]

  On 3/17/2025 at 9:25 PM, Turin Turambar said:

I just read thru end of day 1. My computer kinda died in the middle of pulling things up so I had to go back and write notes to myself because I can't mq from more than one.page and it was from p45-61 (even my notes are 9 pages so that isn't going to be typed out)

My current stance in the game:

TURIN:(TOWN) my role pm says so

VERBAL:(TOWN) I believe he is the vig. I think I understand why he shot Shad (I think he should have shot either RTE,Z, or Lenlo ).

HEAVY:(TOWN) His stances and takes at EoD regarding Z and Cass I felt were from town every time. 

GUDREAN:(TOWN LEAN) She is still solid but I'm just starting to worry. Call it tinfoil.

CAIROS:(NULL) I still want more from him, but I think he is trying. Keep giving your thoughts. 

DICE:(MAFIA LEAN) There were a few things that bugged me, but there are bigger problems IMO.

LENLO:(MAFIA) The beginning thing about saying Z and me were T/T still bugs me. Some of the EoD comments also.

ZANDER:(MAFIA) He was the original suss at Cass. He contemplated starting a Cass train after she votes Lenlo making him a viable train(her vote made it

2-3-3 w/ Verb and RTE). He said he wouldn't leave RTE unless needed for majority (he asked about it, I answered, he acknowledged,  he still switched). He says he's all for getting RTE &Dice lynched but voting Heavy???

RTE:(MAFIA) So much. The fishing, the policy lynch on Cairos, the trolling at Verb's claim, acting like he knew Verb was lying when there was only one way he could (if he was the vig). He backed away from a CC when Verb challenged him about it because he realised that itwas a death sentence for him. I'm really a bit shocked and disappointed Verb didn't shoot him instead of Shad. Well now that I've reread all of end of day.

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I was the first player to suss Cass Turin....no that's a bold face lie off drop 

[Gudrean]

  On 3/17/2025 at 9:35 PM, Ithillian Turambar said:

Official Vote Count

 

RTE - 2 (Dice, Heavy)

HEAVY - 3 (Lenlo, Zander, RTE)

ZANDER - 2 (Verbal, Turin)

 

 

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Of these trains if I had to vote right now it would be RTE 

[Zander?]

VERBAL (known) and TURIN if you're actually a Villager. (Kudos if scum)

 

But if you are a Villager and somehow RTE is too .

 

This by a very large margin in over 100+ Mafia games I've played is by far the worst village I've ever seen or been apArt of .  I hope post game for this of you Town you'll man up and take the blame for this crap show BUT BECAUSE OF YOU.

 

HARD CLAIM INHERITED TOWN WATCHER FFS

 

 

 

[Zander?]

And with that I no longer give 2 ......

[Zander?]

GLGLGLGLGL Town