Little Miss Mafia [Basic] 9'er - Game Thread

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Official Vote Count 2.5

 

Crusher (1) : SexyHydra

AJ (3) : Cass, Sooh, Zander

Dice (1) : Crusher

Sooh (1) : AJ

 

Not Voting (2) : Kat, dice,
 

 

It takes 5 to lynch.

 

Deadline:  Sunday, July 7th, 12am MIDNIGHT CDT. (in about 14 hours)

 

Vote Count 2.1 | Vote Count 2.2 | Vote Count 2.3 | Vote Count 2.4 |

 
Day One Final VC

 

[Lizabeth]

10 hours ago, Nynaeve said:

 

This is you trying to behave? Lmfao

Yes

[Cass]

14 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Liz/Sooh?

 

9 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

It’ll only take a second. do me a favor, vote me.

 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Andrej said:

##Vote Sooh

 

Dont like her vote or how she is already looking to transition to her next scum read.

 

 

AJ, why do I get the feels that you're doing a reverse-psychology thing today and EoD trying to psych people out of voting you?

 

And also

 

If AJ flips red I'd look at him and Sooh as WW, I don't think he really does OMGUS that way?

 

 

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Cass said:

Where'd the swing on Crush come from?

 

Weighing options. Thinking of who has/hasn’t interacted a lot, etc. I’m obviously wrong on someone here whether it be you, him, Sooh, Liz etc so might as well consider all angles until I can successfully eliminate some via death, PRs, etc

 

(in a nutshell Crusher doesn’t seem to have a read on a Sooh that I remember and she has generally maintained a distance but positive read)

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Cass said:

AJ, why do I get the feels that you're doing a reverse-psychology thing today and EoD trying to psych people out of voting you?

 

And also

 

If AJ flips red I'd look at him and Sooh as WW, I don't think he really does OMGUS that way?

 

OMGUS is a great tool when you’re the one up on the gallows ? 

 

Not trying to psyche anyone out. Either I’m right and you/Sooh has a wolf in there or this game is going to be pretty hard for you guys moving ahead.

 

At least nobody died but outside of that PR that information hasn’t helped me much today. 

[Cass]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

Weighing options. Thinking of who has/hasn’t interacted a lot, etc. I’m obviously wrong on someone here whether it be you, him, Sooh, Liz etc so might as well consider all angles until I can successfully eliminate some via death, PRs, etc

 

(in a nutshell Crusher doesn’t seem to have a read on a Sooh that I remember and she has generally maintained a distance but positive read)

 

The stuff that I've been reading has Crush looking pretty good I think.

 

Still going through  trying to look at votes but his post about NB yesterday especially, at EoD  I don't know if he'd bother making as a Wolf.

 

His recent post about Dice was long and detailed enough that it looks like he's putting in a lot of consideration. I don't know if he WoTs as wolf?

 

The interactions/reads you two have had of each other have been interesting. 

Like your snap YOLO he's Town read felt off and I can't tell whether that's because it felt like a buddying move or not.

[Andrej]

Cool.

[Cass]

9 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

OMGUS is a great tool when you’re the one up on the gallows ? 

 

Not trying to psyche anyone out. Either I’m right and you/Sooh has a wolf in there or this game is going to be pretty hard for you guys moving ahead.

 

At least nobody died but outside of that PR that information hasn’t helped me much today. 

 

What's your reason for me? 

 

[Cass]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Cool.

 

 

The wall looks sweet as btw, come build at my house any time!

[Andrej]

So frozen lol. 

 

Stick to that read then, if that’s how you feel. If you’re town this is gonna be your mess now lol. I’m not calling Crusher scum (in fact quite the opposite most of the game if you’ve been paying attention) but it would be irresponsible of me not to consider all options at this point.

[Cass]

34 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

 

Dice got my attention originally on his reaction on JC, I felt he over explained something on him that I thought could have been more to the point. It seems to me he was trying to give himself permission to not notice JC's play. I thought that odd because at that point Jc's play was what we always see day 1, toe stomping and reaction gathering. It's simply not alignment indicative. I also know that JC plays here as NB, Dices talk about two versions of the same player existing didn't sit well again, because Ive played as much with JC as anyone. Here and at JN, never saw a variation. Maybe it happens when I don't play. Then after that Dice went off thread, Im sure for a good reason but still part of what I saw. So my first point was it felt like Dice may have know he was town but decided to act perplexed instead. 

 

Then he was asked to give his point on You and Sooh and he gave a quick little synopsis that was more or less, I like what I see, Interesting to me because you guys have doen a lot more than JC did yet he chose to abbreviate it. Not really giving anything that I felt helped. Im relying on other players for meta a bit because Im not that familiar. Thats also the reason Im pushing harder because I need reactions because that and second hand meta is what I have at my disposal. 

 

AJ? I originally didn't feel well about him but at the end of day 1 he seem to be trying to solve the day. Yet, I didn't really like his vote on JC but I kind of remember not minding his explanation. Don't have time to go back now for that. Now, he has lost some cred with me because he seem to be perfectly ok with Dices answer to the Sooh and Cass explanation and I didn't like that at all. At this point AJ has enough pressure on him. I'm sticking with what Im feeling at the moment. 

 

I hope this helps. 

 

Ta for the explanation.

 

FWIW I'm pretty sure I've heard Dice say something like that about NB before.

I think he dragged the explanations out a bit long here, in response to all the questions, which was a bit meh, but the only way it would be strange for me would be if NB flipped red.

 

Cos then the hedging would make more sense from a WW perspective?

 

AJ's reasoning for voting NB was something along the lines of 

 

'His reason for voting Zander is bunk, his Meta for Sooh being a hard Wolf to catch towards end game is bunk'

 

Which is one of the reasons if he flips Red I'll look at Sooh tbh

Both NB's call on it

And AJ refuting it

 

But if anyone has Meta on Sooh that says otherwise?

[Cass]

4 minutes ago, Andrej said:

So frozen lol. 

 

Stick to that read then, if that’s how you feel. If you’re town this is gonna be your mess now lol. I’m not calling Crusher scum (in fact quite the opposite most of the game if you’ve been paying attention) but it would be irresponsible of me not to consider all options at this point.

 

? Why frozen?

 

DIG man, DIG!!!!

[Cass]

Eh... I'm getting sussed by the security guy again. Halp

[Andrej]

6 minutes ago, Cass said:

What's your reason for me? 

 

Bad read maybe. Trying to pigeon hole myself into a POE without letting it come to me first maybe. Being too quick to overlook others for some well worded posts maybe. You had a weak D1. Your entry today seemed to fit what I remember scumCass does where you play from behind.

 

You’re coming on strong now so that’s good. I don’t have the support right now to really beat you if you’re scum so good job if that’s the case.

[Andrej]

3 minutes ago, Cass said:

? Why frozen?

 

DIG man, DIG!!!!

 

That was to your ice block gif.

[Lizabeth]

 

4 hours ago, The Crusher said:

The if Sooh  is thing is nothing near how my brain works when I play mafia. I don’t try to connect players early and literally learned not to. Later as trains, flips and clearer pattern form ? Sure? But day 2, it’s a fools errand in my opinion. 

 

But since you asked I would say just by default if Sooh   is town then another player on JCs train would be most likely mafia. Just by the mechanic of removing Sooh from the scum pool. 

 

Go read old games? You guys are lucky I’m reading this one. Honestly just to do that I had to skip some of yours and Zander’s  post. You two are exhausting. 

 

 

One reason you give me pause is that in your original response to my probe you said you'd have to compare sooh's play this game to her meta. How do you plan to do that if you're not planning on reading old games? 

 

3 hours ago, dicetosser1 said:

hows my little sarms??

hey u off wednesday night? Origin 3s on!

aj  i THINK ure wrong   but its based off the snappy semi meltdown    cant think of better word   near end of day

my bottom 3 are aj sooh crusher    sooh and crusher are in no particular order.

 

I'm confused...you think cass is wrong about aj being scum, but aj is in your bottom 3?

 

3 hours ago, Cass said:

They're sarmish.. and were happy to have me back today, was p. good ? 

I'll be workin ?

 

tbh the only time I've seen AJ crack it like that was in his long scum curse run

 

Reminds me I wanna see what was happening with the trains when that happened

 

Stop distracting me ?

 

Why for Sooh and Crush?

 

Didn't you say Sooh came out well for you early today?

 

I don't feel like she's outside her scum range @Lizabeth just saw your post and had it MQd to reply to, but 'oily' is how I'd describe her feel to me when she's scum. I like the way she handled Zander with the you-Z thing but IIRC the only person she's really pushed so far was Dice? I don't think she'd have a hard time faking the happy entry, but I think she'd have a hard time keeping it up. 

 

@Sooh

Have you given reads today?

What's your take on Z and Dice atp?

 

And the others?

 

Do you feel that sooh has been oily this game? 

 

3 hours ago, Cass said:

@Lizabeth - what answer of Crush's made you feel MORE unsure of him?

 

See my response to him above. 

 

3 hours ago, Zanatron said:

 

Crusher was my other bad feel besides AJ when i posted my semi reads list earlier.

 

He's sinced moved up but only because AJ and atp Cass have bothered me worse.

 

Ok. What makes you think those two are likely teamed? Us aj likely to make a strong stance on bussing a teammate early on d2? (E.g. saying that pretty almost nothing would move him off that vote?)

 

3 hours ago, Zanatron said:

 

There can be no pacts between a uppity rich Onartion and a poor ghetto East Coaster!!!!!!

 

I assume you meant to type Ontarian.

 

*sips latte*

3 hours ago, Zanatron said:

 

"What are you not even reading my posts"...lololololol

 

Ive made 4 or 5 posts where we ninjad each other or I said i was sketched out about something.  One thing was something irt AJ iirc.

I think you posted that after i asked the question. I'm not a time traveler, dammit!

 

1 hour ago, The Crusher said:

Been my read from the beginning. I haven't seen anything that changes it. Even the right up on you and Sooh came off as "what twon wants to here.." AJ actually reacted to it in that way.  I'll admit Dice is someone I do have meta on and Im trying not to ignore that fact but I'm playing my game. Mixed with trying to get reactions from people because I don't have the comfort of meta on everyone. 

This actually feels better to me coming from crusher. 

 

39 minutes ago, Andrej said:

I don’t even know at this point, man.

 

Cass if you’re town that’s boneheaded af and that’s not a word I would use to describe you with.

 

I really don’t understand why Liz is so stuck on Crusher considering how positively she read him at the start of the game.

 

Dice draws a blank.

 

Z has obviously killed too many brain cells.

 

The idea of Sooh being scum seems pretty plausible to me now after she didn’t vote yesterday when prodded then had no problem lumping in on me when she got the chance.

 

Cass/Sooh?

 

Sooh/Crusher has some equity maybe.

 

Liz/Kat?

 

maybe once you figure out what happened N1 you can eliminate one of these pairs. But that’s about as good as I’ve got. Game hasn’t been easy.

 

I'm not stuck on crusher. I just don't believe in letting sleeping stones lie unturned! 

 

34 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

Im noticing this as well. Probably the only time we played to together I was scum. Wild West game. Im assuming she has me typed cast. My tinfoil thought is she is hiding as scum behind a wall of questions trying to keep everyone busy answering her  rather than scum hunting. I'm not sure why it changed from early though unless she didn't realize who i was at first. I'm a pretty BIG deal so not likely. LOL

 

Lol

 

You are a big deal. That's why I'm interested in probing you ?

 

32 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

It’ll only take a second. do me a favor, vote me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't like this...

 

 

24 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

I'm natural squishy.

*squish!*

[Andrej]

9 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

Ta for the explanation.

 

FWIW I'm pretty sure I've heard Dice say something like that about NB before.

I think he dragged the explanations out a bit long here, in response to all the questions, which was a bit meh, but the only way it would be strange for me would be if NB flipped red.

 

Cos then the hedging would make more sense from a WW perspective?

 

AJ's reasoning for voting NB was something along the lines of 

 

'His reason for voting Zander is bunk, his Meta for Sooh being a hard Wolf to catch towards end game is bunk'

 

Which is one of the reasons if he flips Red I'll look at Sooh tbh

Both NB's call on it

And AJ refuting it

 

But if anyone has Meta on Sooh that says otherwise?

 

Regardless of your conf bias right now look at Sooh pretty hard after this. You’ll have two dead townies with her vote on them.

[Lizabeth]

All my theories from last night are destroyed

 

Thread needs more @dicetosser1

 

I'll post more when I'm home and on the laptop

[Andrej]

You could help me out too since you’re around now @Lizabeth

[Lizabeth]

2 minutes ago, Andrej said:

You could help me out too since you’re around now @Lizabeth

I'm at a coffee shop and heading home.

 

But ask me questions and I'll help out when I'm home and on my computer

[Cass]

 

9 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

Bad read maybe. Trying to pigeon hole myself into a POE without letting it come to me first maybe. Being too quick to overlook others for some well worded posts maybe. You had a weak D1. Your entry today seemed to fit what I remember scumCass does where you play from behind.

 

You’re coming on strong now so that’s good. I don’t have the support right now to really beat you if you’re scum so good job if that’s the case.

 

By your own logic, there's no way I'm scum right now ❤️

[Andrej]

3 minutes ago, Lizabeth said:

I'm at a coffee shop and heading home.

 

But ask me questions and I'll help out when I'm home and on my computer

 

In a universe where Sooh is scum (I know this disagrees with your worldview currently) who is her partner?

 

Is Zander actually scum here? Cause I can’t decide tbh.

 

Will you vote me?

[Andrej]

4 minutes ago, Cass said:

By your own logic, there's no way I'm scum right now ❤️

 

Not sure what you mean by that but it’s all good regardless.

[Andrej]

Anyway I’m gonna do other stuff now.

 

Need to figure out how the hell im going to actually build these shelves

[Nynaeve]

42 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Anyway I’m gonna do other stuff now.

 

Need to figure out how the hell im going to actually build these shelves

 

Between cass and sooh it feels like your suss has been more pronounced on cass. Why are you voting sooh?