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  On 3/30/2019 at 11:04 PM, Wildfire Sedai said:

 

like i don't understand this in regard to this

 

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  On 3/30/2019 at 11:05 PM, Wildfire Sedai said:

EBWOP:  I don't mind.  but just curious.

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  On 3/30/2019 at 11:07 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

WiFi, do you have any updated reads now, particularly since Kat has been confirmed IC?

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  On 3/31/2019 at 12:57 AM, Wildfire Sedai said:

 

 

Kat is obviously IC now.  :blush: 

 

zan, clov, and tripped are either all town or all scum, IMOThey have a lot of the same reads and even though clov did the "lynch tor*, he could be bussing her.  Though I said above that I think zan is scum, its still just a gut feeling and even though my gut was right last game, doesn't mean it is right this game.  Besides the "common" reads there is the banter between them.  Like they feel comfortable with each other.  This could go either way again.  

 

 

 

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RED: If you were all scum PURPLE: LYNCH you NOT vote you.  and BUSSING NOT voting.  GREEN: meaning you could all be town or all be scum

 

  On 3/31/2019 at 3:46 PM, Wildfire Sedai said:

 

Okay, I can go with this.  I think I have to stop Micromanaging the little things and try to understand the big things.  ? I am terrible at the nuances of speech.  ? IE finding the meanings behind the paragraphs.  I always think that its the little things that are the tell.  The little slip (typo) here or there... Wordvomiting...writing what just comes to your head as fast as you can without thining about it adn just letting it folow without rereading it to cheack for typos or mind slips.  <<<<----see what I mean.  

 

 

Yes, because at least you're not lynching me, SP.

 

 

 

 

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This is again me saying LYNCHING not voting. and for SP.  ATLEAST he's not pushing a lynch on me.

 

  On 3/31/2019 at 4:34 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

I guess I can kind of understand this.  I mean, the whole point of an IC is that they are mod confirmed as town.  But, if you thought he was hinting at IC, but didn't understand what an IC was or why it was announced...why would you think he was hinting at the time?

 

I mean, I agree that he did post the I thing before Darthe said he'd confirm the the IC, but...idk.  I'm a little confused on your thought process here.

 

Of course I didn't give you examples.  I wanted to see if you had any thoughts on the matter of your own since it seemed like you were thinking about teams.

 

Chris doesn't actually want to lynch me.  But the fact that you're not seeing/understanding that is...something.  You were scum reading Chris, and town reading me...but somehow your scum read voting for you town read is fine?  because from where i'm sitting, you literally flipped your read on me BECAUSE Chris voted for me.

 

 

 

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BLUE: i didn't get that until I did my reread, even though you stated it.  Not everyone is as bright as you.  ? 

 

PURPLE: again you were a scum read. 

 

to trips comment about me not commenting until after she posted:

You forget this is not in real time.  Sometimes it takes a person a while to post and they don't refresh the page or click on the reminder that more posts have been made.  It took me all day to reread the whole thread and make the last few long posts.

 

Okay.  So, I just went through the posts up to and after the "##lynch tor" post.  I posted all my responses to it.  Not once did I say that clov VOTED for you, trip.  I said he wanted to LYNCH you and was willing to bus you.  Which IIRC bussing means to get a fellow mafia player LYNCHED.  If I am wrong please just let me know.  I am always willing to learn something new.

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  On 4/1/2019 at 4:12 AM, Wildfire Sedai said:

 

PURPLE: again you were a scum read. 

 

to trips comment about me not commenting until after she posted:

You forget this is not in real time.  Sometimes it takes a person a while to post and they don't refresh the page or click on the reminder that more posts have been made.  It took me all day to reread the whole thread and make the last few long posts.

 

Okay.  So, I just went through the posts up to and after the "##lynch tor" post.  I posted all my responses to it.  Not once did I say that clov VOTED for you, trip.  I said he wanted to LYNCH you and was willing to bus you.  Which IIRC bussing means to get a fellow mafia player LYNCHED.  If I am wrong please just let me know.  I am always willing to learn something new.

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Mostly I'm confused.  You seemed to think Chris's vote on me counted based on what you said/your reaction to it.  Did you or did you not believe that Chris was voting me at the time?  

 

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  On 4/1/2019 at 2:07 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Your updated reads came after I asked and like 3-4 posts after Chris "voted" me.  Which you seemed to think was a serious vote at the time because a) you were confused b) you said you were fine with it because SP.  Your previous reads list had me as slight town.

 

So from my perspective it seemed like your updated reads were a direct result of Chris "voting" for me because you seemed to think it somehow made us teamed because you thought he was bussing me.  It doesn't matter if it was actually a legitimate vote, the only thing that matters is that at the time you seemed to think it was, which is why I said what I did.  

 

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  On 4/1/2019 at 3:10 AM, Clovdyx said:

...You know, I actually want to see where this goes.  ##Lynch Zander, mostly for raisins I don't want to get into right this second.

 

I still have no idea if BFG's vote on me is meant to be serious or not.  Zander, to answer your question, yeah.  I'm pretty sure she's not sitting in QT completely frozen because she doesn't know what to say.  The only argument I could really see for saying she's THIS inactive based on her being mafia is if you want to argue she'd completely inconvenience herself as town and force herself to play when she's physically incapable.  I already told you what my issue with her so far is.

 

@Wildfire Sedai Can you remind me why Nyn is your strongest scumread?  

 

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When I did my reread, I had made a note in my mind, that she was scum.  IIRC the raisins were because she didn't make that many game related posts and I realize RL has her at a virtual stand still, however I know she can post from work, though not ideal, as we don't want her to get fired for playing on their time.  But if she already does it???  Here are her  15 posts  on her profile:

 


GOD COMPLEX DAY ONE
Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

I had an awful day. I tried to study some but I got harassed on the phone by several family members of an individual that is under my responsibility because the doctor diagnosed her with chest muscle spasms and wouldnt refer her to the E.R. And apparently that's somehow my problem.... all because she didn't want to do her guarding duty. Threatening to make a police report for harassment...
 Wednesday at 05:12 PM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

I got a test tomorrow so I cant catch up right now but I will tomorrow when I get back home.
 Wednesday at 04:11 PM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

Asking for a friend >.>
 Wednesday at 05:52 AM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

If it helps, it's a girl.
 Wednesday at 05:49 AM   903 replies
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

Say clov... as a former military man, how awful would it be to shoot a soldier under me in the face? Like how much jail time are we talking? Working on a pro-con list.
 Wednesday at 05:48 AM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

I should prolly go back to work. Wouldn't want to disturb clov, bfg and ToR.... important people talking about important things. When you guys are ready to start talking to me instead of talking about me, lmk.
 Wednesday at 03:58 AM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

I've done plenty, tyvm
 Wednesday at 03:52 AM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

Lets leave happiness out of it.
 Wednesday at 03:49 AM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

See lol
 Wednesday at 03:32 AM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

It would be in capital letters prolly
 Wednesday at 03:28 AM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

He doesnt really do reaction tests. An old dog and new tricks kinda thing.
 Wednesday at 03:25 AM   903 replies
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

My interpretation of it is that he'd target a potential deepwolf. Which isn't a terrible idea in itself. If that player is town we're keeping a strong player throughout the game and he/she is confirmed. If that player is scum then it eliminates a dangerous player that might have lost us the game later on if they carried favor. If you were to go for a less prominant or active player and they're town... the transfer...
 Wednesday at 03:21 AM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

Or... im posting between work and studying cause I give a damn. That's what I sometimes do.
 Tuesday at 06:23 PM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

I havent done that since 2014 ?
 Tuesday at 05:21 PM   903 replies
Nynaeve
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Nynaeve replied to Darthe's topic in DM Mafia Games

What do I do?
 

The black bold are fluff and the red bold are game content (either original or answering a ?? from someone else).  There is more fluff than game related content.

 

 

  On 4/1/2019 at 4:20 AM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Mostly I'm confused.  You seemed to think Chris's vote on me counted based on what you said/your reaction to it.  Did you or did you not believe that Chris was voting me at the time?  

 

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I did NOT think he was VOTING you.  I don't know how many times I have to say it.  It's like I've answered this question a million times already.  (figure of speech).  I thought he was WTL you.  Big difference.  One vote doesn't make me scared ie dice's vote on me and chris's vote on me later in game.  Its when people are like, "Let's lynch WiFi!"  that I get scared.  So, when he said lynch you, I was like yeah SP cause he had me in his PoE (I think he did atleast.  If I understand what that means-when you are really trying to figure that person out and are analyzing everything they do???)  

 

And you know what I am changing my reads -AGAIN.  I am taking nyn off my top scum list and putting you there.  Why you ask?  Because you are pushing a little too far.  I have answered this question over and over and this is my last time answering it.  I don't mind being pushed.  I actually LIKE being pushed, it helps me get into the game (people asking me questions).  However, yours have become monotonous.  

 

##unvote      ##VOTE TRIPPEDONREALITY

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  On 4/1/2019 at 1:36 AM, Hallia said:

 

it's weird bc you mention me like, ignoring you etc, but I'd literally quoted you and given reads

 

then you did the aforementioned thing that made Chris go hmmmmmmmmmmmm wrt BFG

 

you trying to assign homework on finding a game to compare it to is sketchy when you know that it's something I'm unlikely to do with the small amount of game time I have mentioned a zillion times to have

 

##Zander

 

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Hallia quoting posts is not what i mean and i feel you should know that.  You haven't had any of our normal in game and even out of game banter/fun/joking around that normally occurs which is making me think youre not comfortable with doing so and the only reason why is because you may have randed Scum..   Thats whats bothering me irt you? Also this OMGUS reaction.

 

And using Chris's BFG reasoning after I responded to his post and ofc.......WHEN I HAD BEEN ALREADY FOR VOTING FOR HER prior to the post and have been sussing her pretty well since jump street...is not a good lock from you imo.

 

And as far as homework, ummm im a Meta player and iirc you use Meta and what you were saying irt me is Meta based so, me asking for an example of said Meta is aslo Wolfy for me?!?!!??!

 

You see what im getting at and why youre concerning me?!?!!?!?!

 

And the whole part when you vote me and say "for now" is the equivalent of saying ill see if my vote gets traction and see if i can get Zander ML'D is also a tad  disturbing coming from you.

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@Wildfire Sedai

 

For the love of God please, please stop MQing especially as with the Nyn stuff itz crazy hard to read and nearly impossible to quote and respond too.

 

Chris is voting me for #raisins is a tad weird but maybe he's doing something my brain can't comprehend atm but we'll see.

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  On 4/1/2019 at 3:10 AM, Clovdyx said:

...You know, I actually want to see where this goes.  ##Lynch Zander, mostly for raisins I don't want to get into right this second.

 

I still have no idea if BFG's vote on me is meant to be serious or not.  Zander, to answer your question, yeah.  I'm pretty sure she's not sitting in QT completely frozen because she doesn't know what to say.  The only argument I could really see for saying she's THIS inactive based on her being mafia is if you want to argue she'd completely inconvenience herself as town and force herself to play when she's physically incapable.  I already told you what my issue with her so far is.

 

@Wildfire Sedai Can you remind me why Nyn is your strongest scumread?  

 

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Inconvience herself? It would take 10 seconds to make a post even saying im still super busy guys....like worse case.

 

I dunno maybe you're right but ive seen her shy away and avoid the thread as Scum.  Especially if AJs/Nyns was her teammate.

 

Either way now we basically have 3 completely inactive slots and were just thinking its all Villagers especially when 2 of them had been postinf earlier...ya im not buying into that cause if theyre all Villagers then Town is prolly screwed.

 

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  On 3/30/2019 at 9:06 PM, Clovdyx said:

@Ironeyes what's your read on Wifi?

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It's sliding down. I think her reaction to pressure today hasn't been great. There's a lot of self-preservation attitude in the quotes I spoilered below, serious wishy-washi-ness about reads, and a line about "Dice must be town because he's town reading me" that doesn't sit well with me. 

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Posts where people start voting Zander:

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Lol Zander,  I love you boo.  Never change ❤️

 

I was voting for you to see a couple of different things.  Mostly I wanted to see how Wifi would react - she had you as one of her biggest scumreads, and since nobody was really discussing Nyn but her, wanted to know if shed move there as soon as you became an option.

 

Also wanted to see if/how Hallia would respond.  I thought her reaction to me earlier felt really odd.  I fully understand shes behind and has exceptionally limited time - that doesnt make her scum in any way.  But out of everything to respond to or question, it was me saying "I don't have any real separation between them".   It felt overly reactionary/defensive for being called null.  When she moved on you, that was the second thing that I kind of scratched my head at.

 

Town!Hallia absolutely COULD push you or vote someone for that.  But I'm thinking of the game she played with tripped and me on MU, where she didnt have much time (probably more than this one?) And even though she didnt post a ton, she gave people things to digest.

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I said I was waiting to see where it was going...lolololololol

 

And no I cant change and even if i could....i wouldnt!!!!!!....lolololololol

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  On 4/1/2019 at 5:16 AM, Wildfire Sedai said:

 

I did NOT think he was VOTING you.  I don't know how many times I have to say it.  It's like I've answered this question a million times already.  (figure of speech).  I thought he was WTL you.  Big difference.  One vote doesn't make me scared ie dice's vote on me and chris's vote on me later in game.  Its when people are like, "Let's lynch WiFi!"  that I get scared.  So, when he said lynch you, I was like yeah SP cause he had me in his PoE (I think he did atleast.  If I understand what that means-when you are really trying to figure that person out and are analyzing everything they do???)  

 

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Okay. Now we’re at lest getting somewhere. So you didn’t think his vote was valid or that he wasn’t trying to vote me, but you thought he was legitimately willing to lynch me. (General PSA: the word vote doesn’t have to be included for a vote to count. It’s only the ## and the players name that matters, because Chris’s vote did count)

 

if that’s what you thought, then from your POV, his vote was still on you.  Now, it seems like you had no idea you were included in his PoE, which seems a little unlike given how much he’s talked about you and the fact that I had literally just said he was voting you and that he had been voting you prior to him voting for you again, which was the whole impetus for him even saying lynch trip. But it’s mostly whatever. I legitimately cannot follow your thought process at all and I feel like the more I try to understand what you thought at the time, that either I was entirely off base at the time or you’re moving goalposts on me. 

 

Someone tell me if I’m being really stupid about all of this?

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  On 4/1/2019 at 1:03 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Okay. Now we’re at lest getting somewhere. So you didn’t think his vote was valid or that he wasn’t trying to vote me, but you thought he was legitimately willing to lynch me. (General PSA: the word vote doesn’t have to be included for a vote to count. It’s only the ## and the players name that matters, because Chris’s vote did count)

 

if that’s what you thought, then from your POV, his vote was still on you.  Now, it seems like you had no idea you were included in his PoE, which seems a little unlike given how much he’s talked about you and the fact that I had literally just said he was voting you and that he had been voting you prior to him voting for you again, which was the whole impetus for him even saying lynch trip. But it’s mostly whatever. I legitimately cannot follow your thought process at all and I feel like the more I try to understand what you thought at the time, that either I was entirely off base at the time or you’re moving goalposts on me. 

 

Someone tell me if I’m being really stupid about all of this?

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I don't think you're being stupid.  I think you might be trying to make sense out of something internal that most of us might not ever get.

 

To be completely honest, I've kind of tuned that out.  I'm more concerned on how she approaches everything else than how she handles me voting/unvoting/not voting her.

 

If this were Vacuum Mafia, I'd feel pretty damn good about her right now honestly.  Her voting Nyn there and not even looking at one of the easier/more viable lynches seems like shes concerned about being right and not just making somebody flip.  Her reaction to you is a huge OMGUS thing, but again, what are the odds you get lynched today? Basically zero.

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  On 4/1/2019 at 1:03 PM, TrippedOnReality said:

 

Okay. Now we’re at lest getting somewhere. So you didn’t think his vote was valid or that he wasn’t trying to vote me, but you thought he was legitimately willing to lynch me. (General PSA: the word vote doesn’t have to be included for a vote to count. It’s only the ## and the players name that matters, because Chris’s vote did count)

 

if that’s what you thought, then from your POV, his vote was still on you.  Now, it seems like you had no idea you were included in his PoE, which seems a little unlike given how much he’s talked about you and the fact that I had literally just said he was voting you and that he had been voting you prior to him voting for you again, which was the whole impetus for him even saying lynch trip. But it’s mostly whatever. I legitimately cannot follow your thought process at all and I feel like the more I try to understand what you thought at the time, that either I was entirely off base at the time or you’re moving goalposts on me. 

 

Someone tell me if I’m being really stupid about all of this?

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I cant read Wifi eaither.....I assume its akin to people who havent played with me try to read me and are like pulling their hair out and ready to self vote for an escape...lolololololololo

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  On 4/1/2019 at 1:08 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

I don't think you're being stupid.  I think you might be trying to make sense out of something internal that most of us might not ever get.

 

To be completely honest, I've kind of tuned that out.  I'm more concerned on how she approaches everything else than how she handles me voting/unvoting/not voting her.

 

If this were Vacuum Mafia, I'd feel pretty damn good about her right now honestly.  Her voting Nyn there and not even looking at one of the easier/more viable lynches seems like shes concerned about being right and not just making somebody flip.  Her reaction to you is a huge OMGUS thing, but again, what are the odds you get lynched today? Basically zero.

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Well not so much really in a world where Wifi is a Wolf and Nyn is Town, as a Wolf she would look a liottle better pushing another Towny then being a ML if it goes that way.

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Obviously my concern is we have probably 3+ dead votes and a lynch pool of 4 - 6 people that I think most players would be at least ~okay lynching into. 

 

Her last couple pages have been kind of townie (probably more so for her), but nothing is super strong.  

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  On 4/1/2019 at 1:11 PM, Zanatron said:

 

Well not so much really in a world where Wifi is a Wolf and Nyn is Town, as a Wolf she would look a liottle better pushing another Towny then being a ML if it goes that way.

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As in... mafia!Wifi thinks it's better to be offwagon during a mislynch (even on another townie) than being one of the voters of the lynch that goes through?

 

That's probably somewhat true, but I think shes more of a "in the moment" kind of player than a "three phases from now".  Also, mafia can afford to avoid popular wagons if none of their teammates are at risk.  Unless it's like her/Dice/Iron, that's just not happening here lol

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  On 4/1/2019 at 1:15 PM, Clovdyx said:

 

As in... mafia!Wifi thinks it's better to be offwagon during a mislynch (even on another townie) than being one of the voters of the lynch that goes through?

 

That's probably somewhat true, but I think shes more of a "in the moment" kind of player than a "three phases from now".  Also, mafia can afford to avoid popular wagons if none of their teammates are at risk.  Unless it's like her/Dice/Iron, that's just not happening here lol

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Yes to the top and I agree IF Wifi is Scum she has a little equity with Dice.

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